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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 15:14:24 GMT
£23m in debt and you still have to stand on a sh**ty terrace and wade through 4 inches of water to go to the toilet. This is all going to end badly. Crowds over the next 10 years will decline. You only have to look at the number of supporters at the mem who are 65+ to realise that. come on fella some of us love the terrace, if it went to sitting only we'd lose a good few fans, the problem with seats is your squashed up uncomfortable and cant watch the game as well as if your standing each to their own, only 4 inches of water thats way posh when i were a lad you had to go bog snorkeling to get in the bog
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 14:46:52 GMT
I've just discovered something beautiful guys.... If you sprinkle cornflakes into a chicken cup-a-soup its like having a modified KFC.... Your a sick man gregs. If you are that bored its only a matter of time before Claire is pregnant with a Corona baby. What you mean gregs worked out where to put the 10p ,Im now officially scared
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 14:45:03 GMT
Just been announced that Boris has tested positive for Coronavirus 😱 Thank feck he ain't got bird flu as he'd be talking like dianne abbot by now
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 14:32:43 GMT
The whole point of it is that it’s there to cover those who would struggle while knowing that some *may* get some extra benefit. From previous posts it seems that you have a poor view of the welfare state due to your job and it has made you cynical as to the role it plays. The welfare state is there to primarily protect the vulnerable and as it is an imperfect system part of that is the acceptance that some might find ways to game the system. But that is like a lot of things in life- very rarely are things so perfectly sliceable down the middle that the losers win and the winners lose. It’s just the way it is, you can’t have an omelette without breaking some eggs etc...I also doubt that people are having a great time if they have been put on to the governments bail out as there is still no guarantee there will be a demand for the sector they work in when things get back to normal because quite frankly no-one knows what normal is. This is a time of great stress and uncertainty and anyone who is having a high old time right now and thinking they are getting money for nothing I would suggest is obviously too hard of thinking to figure out what the long terms consequences are and whether they will still have a job or industry to go back to at the end of it. Oldie also raises a good point about stimulating the economy although how much of the economy can be stimulated at the moment with vast portions of hospitality and retail shut down is up for debate so that is a lesser effect at this time imo. There are also other factors such as mental health, I’m sure everyone here appreciates the toll this will take on the mental health of everyone anyway, spare a thought for the poor sod who would be told not only is there a pandemic that is going to cost him his loved ones but he also has the worry of losing 40% his income to contend with. I’m sorry, but to me this is a nonstarter, if some banks are too big to fail for their CDS and CDO shenanigans then we can bail out the workers of the country during a time of grave national consequence and worry about how it’s financed later. My view on welfare is that there far too many on it. Too many make a lifestyle choice and too many claim to be too unwell for work. I think for those with serious disabilities the amount of welfare should be paid at 2 or 3 times the current rate. Those that do not work but are fit and well should have to make some meaningful contribution to society. I don’t think this makes me some sort of Ogre, the benefit system is brilliant but does get abused and it’s almost seen as an acceptable situation. Unfortunately, any government trying to create a fairer system just gets voted down as picking on the poor. Anyway, that’s a debate for another day as the current bailout is an emergency, short term solution to a near impossible situation and which cannot possibly be expected to cover every scenario and there will be some losers. Hopefully this will prove short term as at the current rate of 80% is it feasible to carry on for months, maybe years? Will a very long term shutdown do more damage to mental and physical health as well as irreparable damage to the economy which will impact several future generations? the whole thing is a nightmare and I pray for a vaccine soon the same as everyone else. Eric I can answer that one yes there are some who take the water out of the benefit system, and when caught they get charged if guilty and they have some assets then these can be seized and sold on this happens more and more. Living on benefits is no fun but was manageable, however for most it means not going out ,it's an endless cycle of pay bills, buy food not a lot left. You also have to realise that there are different categories for the unemployed the reason for this is so that governments can massage unemployment figures, what i mean by this is there are differing benefits for differing categories, ie unemployment benefit easy to work out, next if you are looking after some one who is disabled or long term ill, you get incapacity benefit, if you are in prison you get no benefit, but you are also removed from the unemployment figures, i'm sure you can see where that is going. It's not all cream buns and pimms on the dole(yeah i know i'm that old). Here's a quick example of the way it was ,hubby disabled ,wife carer, you get incapacity benefit as wife is caring for hubby, hubby gets or got dla, between i think it was 30 80 a week paid monthly(Dla was not means tested and was available to those working or not its paid to give the disabled person help in paying for extras they need from day to day). Quick recap hubby disabled and getting Dla,wife getting careers allowance up to 80 a month(paid monthly). Due to the above both although unemployed sign on and instead of unemployment benefit(UB from now on) , they are moved onto incapacity benefit see what happened there, yup 2 more of the unemployment figures. This is where it gets odd, so wife gets carers allowance this is classed as an incoming and therefore gets taken off the incapacity benefit, so in effect its no bloody help to anyone. This was changed to a much fairer system right wrong on many levels, what has happened is is housing benefit has been capped, limits on amounts paid out,a 5 week wait for an answer or first payment. So universal credit rounds up all other benefits into one lump sum and is paid to your bank. You then have to divvy it up and pay it out yourselves, as in the past things like rent and council tax was paid straight across and you never saw it, can you see why people are getting in a mess. An awful lot of people will pay bills get food then think oh sh** i haven't payed rent, this was one of the biggest issues with universal credit, although i believe you can now get the rent transferred across like under the old system. Then you have dla for a lot it has changed to pip this i believe is now included in the universal credit calculations. With pip the criteria with almost identical questions was the same as dla however the way it gets awarded has changed with the mentally ill being severely penalised because you get 2 components you get help with day to day activities, you also get help with getting around, now what was happening was people who were mentally ill were asked to move 20 yds unaided the to balance ,walk with eyes closed etc, use they could do this the motability part was removed, where what was sposed to happen was the mentally ill were supposed to be assessed on if they or others were safe going out alone. So as UC is payed monthly with a 5 week delay and payed in arrears, bills etc could not be paid then were always a month behind can you see whats happening here, the doles answer is an emergency loan which if you qualify for gets stopped every month out of your uc . in effect putting those people in debt.*they encourage people to take a loan). Again with UC apart from being in arrears it varies from month to month, people get sanctioned some fairly some unfairly, for various reasons, appointment clashes, illness etc. So for bringing in this fair new system people are a lot worse of than before and the 1/2 million new claimants due to corronavirus are going to get a rough time financially, oh i forgot to say you are also expected to know what benefits you can claim as they will tell you to claim things like tax credits, its a complicated system which always falls in favour of the dss, and by god just hope they never over pay you. I feel a lot more people will come to understand how bad it is to be unemployed and realise that those on the dole aren't minting it in. Not having a go but trying to show that it isn't fun relying on the state to live If you want to know more gissa pm
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 13:24:33 GMT
I am not making any political point, but this did make me laugh. Hmmmm as long as no one changes the battery it should function, don't mind the noise the noisier it is the better it works, don't worry about clips breaking as the machine will only be out of action for a few days if royal mail can keep up, the benefit is you will continually have a new product as part break and need replacing so often. Oh and if the stop working all together blame the user for either under breathing or sucking too much air and being greedy in these time think yourself lucky it will probably limit you to 66 percent of the normal air volume you need, this is a marketing ploy as you know our devices never lose output power.
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 13:00:45 GMT
I was shocked when I did the maths and worked out what my situation would be just by losing 20%. There are a lot of people who are leveraged up to the eye balls because living in the UK is bloody expensive relative to wages. We all know that wages are lower than they were in 2007 yet the cost of housing and rent has sky rocketed never mind inflation on basic foods etc. I really hope that this virus, if it does any good at all, prompts some soul searching about how we live our lives and where our priorities are. As a country we have been run too long on a footing where we squeeze as much out of people as we can because they day when people en mass cannot afford the cost of living in this country would never come. Well it has come and it will be interesting to see where we go from here now the government has had to step in and bail the public out because so many live a pay cheque to pay cheque existence where saving for the event of a disaster like this is a luxury they can’t afford. Had this very same discussion with my son last night who lives in the States. The level of child poverty over there is utterly shocking. the states have been like that forever, when i was younger i was offered a small pirece of land free if i wanted to live over there ,was very tempting .however the more i looked into it the more i dint want to. Although the uk isnt in the same league as the us in terms of poverty theres an awful lot of child povertyy over here that goes unnoticed sadly
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 12:54:38 GMT
As much as I am sure it is nice for you to be able to blame someone else for your voting choice, it is a cowardly supposition frankly. For another day, but I hope and pray that at the end of all this people wake up to the value of public services and the need to fund them properly. Oh, and w**king on YouTube does constitute entertainment worthy of any form of remuneration. It wont happen you should know by now a few weeks after or if this ends people will be whining about the excess of bog roll and having to go back to work
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 12:52:32 GMT
I listened to this track today.... I reckon the flaming lips predicted all this 19 years ago: What in the name of the imaginary man in the sky did i just listen too you my friend owe me a pack of vallium, and 12 oacks diazepam so i can recover hmmmmm
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Post by inee on Mar 26, 2020 22:47:24 GMT
I know I’m old fashioned but my dad and grandad before him always impressed on me the need to have enough money put aside to survive a few months. I know not everyone can afford this but maybe giving up a foreign holiday for just one year would have allowed some ‘rainy day’ money to be put aside? I think too many people sail too close and this may change thought processes going forward? Anyway, one bit of good news I did see today was that spitting or coughing in someone’s face is being treated seriously and rightly so. A couple of 40somethings have been jailed for doing this to emergency services. I know they won’t get the length of sentence or the kicking they deserve but it will send a message nonetheless. I think these days people are only a few months wages to being down and out, Apart from greed i blame the banks it's been far too easy to get loans and or credit cards ,that a couple of generations see no problem with borrowing money to buy the latest gadget or to keep up with the joneses. Then panic and borrow more to get out of debt, it;s a vicious circle. I also agree with the locking up spitters feckin halfwits, the one i struggle with is the system of street fines, if people cant afford the 30 how the hell are they going to be able to pay a much bigger one
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Post by inee on Mar 26, 2020 21:20:27 GMT
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 21:08:19 GMT
If you receive an email with the subject "Ding Dong", don't open it. It's Jehovah's Witnesses working from home Whatever you do don't throw a pot of water at the lowlifes , it ruins your pc
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 21:01:28 GMT
In a weird wya this depresses me more than this is the highlight of our lives at the moment. Heard it all day at work on Radio 1 😣 I remember working in a supermarket distribution centre in the lead up to xmas was doing repair work ,had 1 1/2 days work do you know how much this can have you trying to destroy your own hearing Jona Lewie - Stop The Cavalry still haven't recovered if i hear it i instantly transform into a gibbering wreck
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 20:57:00 GMT
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 20:16:51 GMT
Chicken, boiled spuds and gravy, tomorrow will be spinach and potato curry
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 20:13:16 GMT
Because they're now standing 4 metres away from me.... Yer but thaats closer than theve ever been aint it
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 14:00:32 GMT
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 13:52:29 GMT
So many married couples gardening, I wonder why? 😊 Our garden is on a slope, i mentioned gardening n wend slapped me chops n said NO uphill gardening going on here , i still dont know what she meant by that
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Post by inee on Mar 25, 2020 13:29:39 GMT
I work at Aldi, people are morons. At first we limited stuff to 4 per customer, I personally put up over 60 signs in our small shop and customers still chose to ignore them. They would get angry when the additional items were confiscated and then angry at me when I came down to the tills to explain. They would ask staff on the shop floor about the limits, then choose to ignore the signs and the staff and try their luck at the tills anyway! In return creating more work when we're already rushed off our feet. We've limited toilet rolls to 1 per household, 2 of other stuff etc yet people are still being selfish and wanting more. We've caught people doing a shop, loading it into their car and coming back in to do another - and kicked them out. We've caught couples splitting up to go onto different tills to try and trick the system - and restricted them to just one of them being served. The people who are coming in and respecting the limits and rules in place are those who need it most! Had an NHS nurse come in after a long shift and she had seen the signs and everything was fine except she picked up one extra pack of pasta(was a mixed case so easy mistake), I let her have it because she needs it. People are queuing at 6:30 and we dont even open until 8. We were talking about removing the trolleys but unfortunately you do have people, such as emergency workers, the elderly etc who do not get as much time to shop, can't always make the hours that stores are open specifically for them and who need more than a basket to shop. People just need to step back, food will be on the shelf. Our stock levels are ridiculous we are ordering 3x as much every day people just need to calm down, take a step back and not panic. Well done MB, that doesn’t sound much fun at the moment. In the days ahead you guys working in supermarkets and any food shop will become the 4th emergency service. Good luck. Stay safe. UTG! people who are public facing and not an emergancy service should get at least double pay
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Post by inee on Mar 24, 2020 19:39:39 GMT
Yes You have been a very naughty boy I've heard there's going to be a coronavirus baby boom 😉 thems only corona babbers if you get ten pence every time it goes in its incubator
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Post by inee on Mar 24, 2020 18:53:40 GMT
Not just the old bill kp , i had the dubious honour of not moving quick enough one day Didn't we all !!🙂🙂 i remember the lyrics differently sort oof mumble ,mumble oooooohhhhhhhh OUCH stop it yer bunch of lady gardens next bit then even bigger ouch
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