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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 21:04:06 GMT
You tell me as you seem to know, it's simple he sh** on us so i would not attend while he played. I just can't understand your logic to forgive and forget what he has done (some of us dont speak to family because they are teds
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 20:58:51 GMT
Sounds like an amazing day out. The fascist equivalent of Disney Land Wasn't that a banksy thing in the tropicana in wsm
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 20:57:44 GMT
Fed up of all this hate and violence. Wankers on both side of the protests today and last week. All they are doing is causing more division. Why can't we just be civilised human beings If only we knew the answer to that one
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 20:56:35 GMT
Fed up of all this hate and violence. Wankers on both side of the protests today and last week. All they are doing is causing more division. Why can't we just be civilised human beings I shall never stop staying that there are some rich, white, grey haired old men out there, right now, laughing their tits off at how the proletariat are squabbling amongst ourselves in the dirt over race, gender, sexuality and the environment while social mobility decreases and poverty slaps us in the face. You mean bLair n brown w**king each other off on london commonland
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 20:54:09 GMT
Often tasting incontinent bollocks
Often tasting incontinent bladder's
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 20:50:47 GMT
Nope, if the snake came back i could not in anyway shape or form watch the gas till it was gone, he crossed the line when he went to the sh**, so thats a nope So we'll put you down as a 'maybe' then? Feck orf, might as well get buckle, jj and other wasters back in. Sorry but those wankers who jumped ship aint fit to pick dog sh** up in the car park, straight down the middle sitting on the fence me Kin ell it's taken me 3 ruddy posts to notice there's a poll attached to this thread grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 20:48:05 GMT
Gassy I said black or white don't wish to be taught not all but some, i never denied there is no racism ,i said it's a lot better now than 70's 80's uk, do you remember the archie chants, nf stickers everywhere etc. See the thing is when these reports go up it doesn't take into account people not being promoted because someone with lesser qualifications got the job, that's the issue with these reports they always take numbers as proof, say there were 2 jobs one went to a yank one went to a frog the 7 black and asian people who applied dint get it as although the so called qualifications were higher than those who got the job, they couldn't do the role without a lot more training in say basic type skills(not saying people are dense). Then when a report is done, it is totally out of context and the data is flawed, People don't seem to realise that to discard someone because of skin colour isn't easy in the work place. These things need to be balanced, it's like with the cops, the majority are white, not through racist recruitment but because not many want to be a cop, then they go all out to recruit people from those communities still cant fill the roles then it becomes racist recruitment policies. Apologies for the misunderstanding. I believe it was Al who believes there is no racism in the UK. I understand the point you're making (regarding reports), but again it just backs up my point that statistically we would see this equally. If society was actually equal then we'd some some BAME not get jobs and sometimes they've have more. But we don't. It's only the negative. On top of that, the report found that this unit of the NHS wasn't just about gettign jobs/promotions, but the treatment of staff. From what you've said, I can only assume you haven't read the article. If you get the chance, take a gander: www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/09/nhs-blood-unit-systematically-racist-internal-report-findsNow a report from Public Health England has found that, "Factors such as racism and social inequality may have contributed to increased risks of black, Asian and minority communities catching and dying from Covid-19, a leaked report says." - www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53035054I think you yourself posted a week or so about how BAME people being affected by Covid could be down to lack of vitamin D or something. Although the statistics don't suggest that, because if that was the case - wouldn't Asia be hit far worse than it was? I wonder whether certain posters (not you) still deny the institutional racism in the country? No as if you think about it the main source of vitamin D is by skin absorption from the sun, Other countries have a lot more sun than us also take into account that skin colour has a lot to do with absorption rates, so most white people will get their vit D easily. unfortunately the black community get less, if this is the case Vit D levels can easily be raised either by tablet, uv lamp exposure and foodstuffs. As has been mentioned on the bbc report it hasn't been studied enough, maybe it's something that was studies for someone's uni exams. But its time it was studied by the nhs or another research group. (not being racist in any way shape or form just trying to put it out there in simple terms) I read your report tudder day, and it's a bit to blinkered as its only mentions 2 departments ,also the report mentions it was what they had been told, it doesn't mention if it was fully looked into, although 1 team leader said they wouldn't have a muslim in the department, again it could be racist or it could be that the religion is incompatible with the job, as i mentioned before it's very hard to spot racism within job distribution as no-one going to say oh I dint promote Dave because he's the wrong shade of human, I'm not saying it doesn't go on because it does ,but my point is not every instance is racist, and to be fair if people were overtly racist or a pattern developed in the way they dealt with groups of people there's various ways of reporting it. In fairness to Al's' posts i read it the other way that in his capacity in the industry he's in he hasn't seen any of it. but not that it doesnt exist.(Not speaking for Al but telling the way i read it) I Din't really agree with the bbc article as it is effectively saying that non white are dying because of racism ,and that's a dangerous path to go down. When Italy went through a very high infection rate, it was said one area suffered more due to the area being poor(trevgas will hopefully remember the name of the region) . Is the reason the poor are catching covid down to the fact that they have to go out more as they cant stockpile food etc. You also need to be careful just lumping in the word bame as within that group there are different figures, from memory it went along these line Black Women were more likely to get covid than others, followed closely by Black men, followed by Indian then Pakistani groups. i cant remember if people from Bangladesh over here were at the top or bottom of the list. So as you can see we need to be more specific when mentioning these groups as otherwise you get a distorted view of the people who are affected most, as it goes over the heads of a lot of people. Again if you look at the highest groups is it because the women are out and about more trying to get food in for the day. Problem is in reality the yanks will never learn, the cops will still continue to kill people willy nilly, people will still fund organisations like Rent-A-mob er I meant antifa to start trouble in black areas which ultimately leads to those areas becoming ghettos until someone repairs the damage, but wont start sh** in the nice middle class American areas they live in, one video i saw was an older black man pleading with demonstrators to stop destroying his shop,
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 19:16:43 GMT
I had a donkey brain moment then
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 19:14:31 GMT
Stu hasn't one of the scientists said he told the government to stop testin at the end of march
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 19:11:21 GMT
otib= one team in buttplugs otib= one traveller in bristol otib= one ted in bemmie otib= one turd in brother
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 19:05:01 GMT
Nope, if the snake came back i could not in anyway shape or form watch the gas till it was gone, he crossed the line when he went to the sh**, so thats a nope What a Nob So you would have him back would you, he knew exactly what would happen if he went to the sh**, while were at it lets get buckle back , you can call i what you want ,it has no effect on me whatsoever. At least try and make it insulting rather than 1/2 a biscuit
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 14:03:55 GMT
Is that spam or corned beef ?? ,that faggot looks like it could break a wall down its so dry, never have i wanted to be a vegetarian more now now I think the faggot is actually black pudding? If that's black pudding then it's feckin anaemic
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 14:02:12 GMT
airbag
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 14:00:46 GMT
Meanwhile the football 'fans' are trying to fight the police on Parliament Square It will be interesting to see how many are either arrested or bashed on the swede, compared to the other demo's
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 13:58:24 GMT
The lads are out with some dubious hang gestures Britain's finest. More people than brain cells. And there was i thinking you loved our cops
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 13:49:45 GMT
Gassy, you say "systematic racism" is a sh** slogan, you then say you read an article with "systematic racism " in the title did you tell the author it was a sh**e title. Of course there's racism everywhere, but unless you are one of those blind sheeple type ,you have to admit it's much less than it was in the 70's-80's. According to you every thing that is not black is racist, education ,If people don't want to be educated then you can't force them to learn, an example 2 brothers from the school I went to ,one worked his tits off to learn his brother couldn't be arsed. Guess which one went on to good employment and which one went on to basically not get a job, twas the same for white kids some dint give a stuff. You say that some with more qualifications are overlooked for promotion, having more qualifications does not mean that you are better than those with less qualifications, there's a lot more than certificates required to take a higher position, unfortunately not everyone with more qualifications will get promoted. At work years back I had a guy in my team, sh**e loads of qualifications, I trained him to a very high level, an opening appeared at a higher level on paper he was the kiddie for the job, in reality he was f**king hopeless, the second someone else got the job he cried racism, he just would not accept that he could not have done the job efficiently. It's the same for white people some don't get the jobs they are qualified for as they would maybe hopeless dealing with people , lazy, always off sick, insert a reason here. Do people like you not also realise that if a company doesn't reach is quota for positive discrimination it's deemed racist etc, you can't force someone into a job because of their skin colour. No, I said "end systematic racism now" is a sh** slogan. Let me be clear, the message isn't sh**, just the slogan. It isn't catchy, easy to chant & it's too long. I'm talking only from a slogan point of view. Shouldn't slogans be 3 words? EG, Kick it out, get brexit done, protect the NHS etc. @gas365 this is why I think it's a rubbish slogan - FYI. According to me everything that is not black is racist? Where have I said that? I'm saying that statistically speaking, if things were equal then we'd see that in society. At times we would see +/- margins of error, of course. But we don't, do we? Instead we pretty much see in every industry people of BAME backgrounds in worser positions. You can't teach someone who doesn't want to be taught, that's true. But again, unless you're saying that BAME people don't want to be taught (which I assume you're not), then statistically we'd see the same numbers across the situation. But we're not. On top of that, it wasn't me personally saying about promotions. It was an internal NHS report that actually found and proved systematic racism. Doesn't matter how you spin it. On top of that, the report was then quashed. Coincidence? I don’t get why the ‘sudden trigger’ (which was the actions of a police officer in America- racist or otherwise) should have caused the reaction it has in the U.K. The U.K. was massively racist during the slave trade era but every generation since has improved and very little is left. I’ve not really heard anything constructive regarding what exactly needs to change. All I’m seeing is slogans, sound bites, lots of shouting, vandalism, public disorder and blatant disregard for virus spread. I wouldn't say very little is left. Just look at society. I do think we're probably one of the better countries, but doesn't mean we can't do better. Ultimately it's protests and making people aware of the situation that actually drives change. If nothing is done at all, nothing will change. It might seem or sound revolutionary now, but the change in which it will drive in the long term will only be a good thing for equality. Overall, I think it's very easy for people in a majority white country to say "I don't think there's much racism". How do they know? Every statistic tells us there is racism. Sure, it's not as bad as the US - something that I'm proud of at least. Some of you may know I lived abroad recently, my asian friend was killed in the street. The man who did it had photos on facebook of himself in KKK outfits and nazi uniforms. As my friend lied there bleeding from his head, the pr*ck put his foot on his chest as an act of superiority and took photos of him. I've also been with a black friend walking through the streets as pricks threw bananas at him and made monkey chants. Genuinely, the whole thing makes me feel f*cking sick just going back to it. I am proud that we don't have this extreme racism in the UK. I want what is best for the UK and I believe true equality is the way to do that. I want us to be the leading and best country in the world, where everyone looks at how the UK does it. As a country, we can do better. Gassy I said black or white don't wish to be taught not all but some, i never denied there is no racism ,i said it's a lot better now than 70's 80's uk, do you remember the archie chants, nf stickers everywhere etc. See the thing is when these reports go up it doesn't take into account people not being promoted because someone with lesser qualifications got the job, that's the issue with these reports they always take numbers as proof, say there were 2 jobs one went to a yank one went to a frog the 7 black and asian people who applied dint get it as although the so called qualifications were higher than those who got the job, they couldn't do the role without a lot more training in say basic type skills(not saying people are dense). Then when a report is done, it is totally out of context and the data is flawed, People don't seem to realise that to discard someone because of skin colour isn't easy in the work place. These things need to be balanced, it's like with the cops, the majority are white, not through racist recruitment but because not many want to be a cop, then they go all out to recruit people from those communities still cant fill the roles then it becomes racist recruitment policies.
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 13:27:04 GMT
Christ The Tories are in trouble then😱 Don't worry Oldie not as much as the Lefties 😊 PS Whats the latest on our new stadium? Al i've heard they are having a lot of trouble over which side of the new stadium the entrance will br ,do they go left,right, far left far right, just put em in the fecking middle
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 10:43:39 GMT
Without meaning to stir things up, but can someone tear the story that I keep hearing apart that the black slaves we traded in were actually rounded up and sold by other black men? I've heard this so many times. Hi Bags It's been a problem since humans walked the earth, to start a bit back, the abolition of slaves in the uk was actually the second time slavery was banned, The people in mainly England at the time were taken by the Norse/Irish and sold into slavery in Ireland, this was then banned, so the Norse/Irish carried on taking people for some 20 years after the ban on slavery, you can look up the timelines on the net, it led to an invasion of Ireland by one of our kings ,cant remember which one. Also it was the norm back then and for sometime after to make slaves of people captured during battles,(Religion still plays a part in the taking of slaves). Initially tribe chiefs would swop or sell slaves for guns and alcohol or cash, then everyone decided it would be easier to kidnap the slaves themselves, more profit, and set up slaving companies in Africa. There are several parts of the story that is hidden but available on the net. Slaves that died on the ships were thrown into the sea, the sailors were treated a bit better as if they dies they had a short service before being hoofed into the sea, the French however used to keep the bodies in the hold of the ship(weird). as for the abolition of slavery in the uk, a little known Bristolian called Hannah more and others constantly badgered William Wilberforce to do something to end the slave trade the upshot was it was abolished in the uk. A freeman(name escapes me published a book which had a bearing on the abolitionist case. Wilberforce( read up on it there's too much to put in a forum post) also had a hand in sierra leone. A slave ship had either sunk or run aground on uk soil, under the law at the time they could not be taken into slavery as they were legally freemen, some did get stolen and became slave, this had a direct impact on some as a town called Freetown in sierra leone, which as it's name suggests was a place where freemen or escaped slaves could take sanctuary. Some people also forget that press ganging was also slavery. Bags that should give you enough info to look into the subject online it's a vast complex subject. You could also look into slavery in the us, slaves were owned buy presidents, there were also black freemen and women who owned slaves, in the us. A related piece of info is on shows from the uk you occasionally see small black jockey ornaments on peoples gardens etc, these were used to inform runaway slaves that the owner of the house was part of the undergound railway which helped slave to get away.
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 9:57:43 GMT
Al For your edification. www.dw.com/en/east-africas-forgotten-slave-trade/a-50126759And I can assure you racism to this day is alive and kicking in the Middle East. Let's be perfectly frank, because racism is not confined to one race or skin colour (something I have asserted on this thread continuously) is no excuse for us or any less forgiveable. Quite the opposite if we aspire to a higher ideas, which some of us do. However, not necessarily the reasoned view of some on the BLM side as there was one of them at a recent rally holding up a placard that said “The UK invented racism”. Where to start
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2020 9:45:17 GMT
I seem to remember when sainsburies sh** on us, one of the otib guys worked in planning or something like that(might have been kid in the riot or the site owner). It may be on thier site
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