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Post by lympstonegas on Jun 23, 2017 13:04:16 GMT
He's better at defending than JCS.. Remember Scunthorpe at home ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 13:06:52 GMT
It will depend on how much game time he gets obviously. But he needs to be pushing a goal every 3 - 4 games really. so 11-15 on a full league season. That's to be a third choice striker. 15 Goals from a third choice striker? Yes I would be well happy with that, who's our 1st & 2nd choice strikers then Messi & Ronaldo? 11-15 goals. scoring his max target of 15 would probably boost him upto being second choice come the end of the season.
millwall Gregory 18 ,Morrison 14 ,o brien 13
Rovers would have come close had the Snake stayed all season
Snake 16 ,Bodin 15, ? ,Harrison 8...Gaffney 6
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 23, 2017 13:10:51 GMT
He's better at defending than JCS.. Remember Scunthorpe at home ? Yes a poor pass not really bad at defending. Remember Charlton? Remember Peterborough? Remember Millwall?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 13:15:39 GMT
The fact is Ellis made his debut for us over 6 years ago. And we're still debating whether he has potential. Something wrong there, surely?
His most productive season was in the conference.
See you in 2023 when he signs his next one year extension and we're saying he's got more to prove.
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Post by markczgas on Jun 23, 2017 13:15:56 GMT
Still maturing & growing in to a proper centre-forward! Good in the air at both ends of the pitch. This will be his year!!! Good signing. The negativity on here is beyond belief! Repeat after me: evolution not revolution.....evolution not revolution......(stop when it's sunk in - mid/end of July for some on here) Exactly! People talking about Conor Mcaleny. Everton only just released him this year at the age of 24, despite the fact that he's currently a League One level striker. They obviously potentially saw him playing Premier League football up until this year. People talk about James Alabi (playing Conference at 22), Christian Doidge (playing Conference at 24) and Matt Godden (playing League Two at 25) as young up and coming strikers. Yet Ellis (who is playing League One at 23) apparently isn't classed as one of these. Like I always say, I think people forget his age and want to give up on him already because he's been on the scene for ages, but he is still pretty young and if he works hard he will continue to improve. Give him time! Agreed, but he isn't the same level as Taylor and maybe some are still wondering where is that replacement. Ellis could/should improve more but I'd be surprised if he starts more than 15 games next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 13:26:12 GMT
I think the bit that frustrates me is other teams in our League are signing much much better strikers and will be stronger for it and all we are hearing at the moment is that two maybe three failed L1 strikers are signing on again. Appreciate 'failed'might be unfair as they are learning their trade at this level but the rest of th league won't wait for us to catch up experience wise and these guys need to step up ! We can't compete if we aren't scoring goals regularly !
Ball to Fleetwood Whitingham - Blackburn McAleny - Rotherham Beckford - Bury McDonald - Wimbledon Marshall - Charlton Miller - Peterborough
All of these are way better than what we currently have or suggest having .....I trust our manager but life would feel way much better if we had some positive Striker news soon. !
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Jun 23, 2017 13:32:59 GMT
Lets hope the "Landing lights are on and the landing gear is down" on this deal
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Post by Gastafari on Jun 23, 2017 13:33:58 GMT
If we can get a 20+ goal striker to replace the Snakes goals and bring in somebody else to chip in with 10+, along side Ellis and Gaffney as back up then that's not a bad strike force at all. Not to mention if Billy Bodin starts the season on fire, which he hasn't for the 2 previous seasons, then there's no reason why he shouldn't be aiming to get close to 20 goals next season either. If next season follows this season's course then RG & EH will be fighting for the CF position, not both being seen as just back up strikers. If that's the case I can't honestly see them being part of a top 6 strike force, it'll be a total nightmare if DC brings in LJ to play alongside them. Let's just hope we get some more positive transfer new soon. If we can sign a 20+ goal a season man then why not? Chelsea walked the Premier League with only 1 striker getting remotely close to 20 goals. Newcastle won The Championship with only 1 striker remotely close to 20 goals. Sheffield United won League One with only Billy Sharp scoring more than 20 goals. Portsmouth won League 2 without having 1 player getting remotely close to 20 goals. So why not?
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Post by Marshy on Jun 23, 2017 13:58:55 GMT
If next season follows this season's course then RG & EH will be fighting for the CF position, not both being seen as just back up strikers. If that's the case I can't honestly see them being part of a top 6 strike force, it'll be a total nightmare if DC brings in LJ to play alongside them. Let's just hope we get some more positive transfer new soon. If we can sign a 20+ goal a season man then why not? Chelsea walked the Premier League with only 1 striker getting remotely close to 20 goals. Newcastle won The Championship with only 1 striker remotely close to 20 goals. Sheffield United won League One with only Billy Sharp scoring more than 20 goals. Portsmouth won League 2 without having 1 player getting remotely close to 20 goals. So why not? Thanks for reminding me Gastafari, England v South Africa in 2 hours - You've guessed it 20 - 20.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 14:16:48 GMT
I think the bit that frustrates me is other teams in our League are signing much much better strikers and will be stronger for it and all we are hearing at the moment is that two maybe three failed L1 strikers are signing on again. Appreciate 'failed'might be unfair as they are learning their trade at this level but the rest of th league won't wait for us to catch up experience wise and these guys need to step up ! We can't compete if we aren't scoring goals regularly ! Ball to Fleetwood Whitingham - Blackburn McAleny - Rotherham Beckford - Bury McDonald - Wimbledon Marshall - Charlton Miller - Peterborough All of these are way better than what we currently have or suggest having .....I trust our manager but life would feel way much better if we had some positive Striker news soon. ! For starters you've named a central midfielder and a winger in your striker list. I don't quite understand how others have signed 'better strikers' when we haven't signed any for comparison. Ball has a worse record than Harrison, Beckford has been very streaky over the last 5 years and will be on megabucks. McDonald has also seen better days. McAleny and Miller moved for geography, or at least it had to be a factor. At least wait to see what we sign before stating that some average strikers are far superior.
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Post by Gastafari on Jun 23, 2017 14:31:58 GMT
If we can sign a 20+ goal a season man then why not? Chelsea walked the Premier League with only 1 striker getting remotely close to 20 goals. Newcastle won The Championship with only 1 striker remotely close to 20 goals. Sheffield United won League One with only Billy Sharp scoring more than 20 goals. Portsmouth won League 2 without having 1 player getting remotely close to 20 goals. So why not? Thanks for reminding me Gastafari, England v South Africa in 2 hours - You've guessed it 20 - 20. I think you'll find that'll be Twenty20. 20-20 is a sh** fortified fruit flavoured wine, devoured by large groups of prebuscent teenagers in parks 👍
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jun 23, 2017 14:33:52 GMT
The BRFC rollercoaster just plunged down the ride ... seriously underwhelmed that we have Gaffney and now potentially Harrison as two of our four strikers for next season .... please DC don't let Luke James be the next one or my optimism for next season will be well and truly tested. Feel flat now after yesterday's great announcement .... DC has said he wants 5 strikers for next season - so likely to be three incoming even if Ellis stays.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 14:35:08 GMT
Was wondering who would make the midfielder / winger comment .... one was far more of a goal threat than both our boys And the other an exciting attacking midfielder who did one hell of a job in a side unlucky not to go up via the playoffs.
Only time will tell ... would still like a striker announced soon though.
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Post by pirate on Jun 23, 2017 15:33:00 GMT
I think the bit that frustrates me is other teams in our League are signing much much better strikers and will be stronger for it and all we are hearing at the moment is that two maybe three failed L1 strikers are signing on again. Appreciate 'failed'might be unfair as they are learning their trade at this level but the rest of th league won't wait for us to catch up experience wise and these guys need to step up ! We can't compete if we aren't scoring goals regularly ! Ball to Fleetwood Whitingham - Blackburn McAleny - Rotherham Beckford - Bury McDonald - Wimbledon Marshall - Charlton Miller - Peterborough All of these are way better than what we currently have or suggest having .....I trust our manager but life would feel way much better if we had some positive Striker news soon. ! For starters you've named a central midfielder and a winger in your striker list. I don't quite understand how others have signed 'better strikers' when we haven't signed any for comparison. Ball has a worse record than Harrison, Beckford has been very streaky over the last 5 years and will be on megabucks. McDonald has also seen better days. McAleny and Miller moved for geography, or at least it had to be a factor. At least wait to see what we sign before stating that some average strikers are far superior. Ball has scored the majority of his goals in League One, Harrison's have come in mostly non-league and League Two. For the record I want Ellis to sign the contract as I think he has good attributes and will get better. If you only count the games he's started it's a 1 in 2 record, impressive, even if it is mostly at a lower level.
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Post by kruger on Jun 23, 2017 15:49:48 GMT
Steve Hamer also said the landing light were on, Steve Hamer also said news was immanent, Steve Hamer also said August was the deadline, Steve Hamer also said January. I don't beleive anything he says anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 15:53:30 GMT
Was wondering who would make the midfielder / winger comment .... one was far more of a goal threat than both our boys And the other an exciting attacking midfielder who did one hell of a job in a side unlucky not to go up via the playoffs. Only time will tell ... would still like a striker announced soon though. Fair enough, but I still want us to sign a striker even though we've signed an attacking midfielder in Sercombe. Bristol Rovers are never going to go in for players like Peter Whittingham while we're in L1 at the Mem. Blackburn getting him was a bit of a coup. For starters you've named a central midfielder and a winger in your striker list. I don't quite understand how others have signed 'better strikers' when we haven't signed any for comparison. Ball has a worse record than Harrison, Beckford has been very streaky over the last 5 years and will be on megabucks. McDonald has also seen better days. McAleny and Miller moved for geography, or at least it had to be a factor. At least wait to see what we sign before stating that some average strikers are far superior. Ball has scored the majority of his goals in League One, Harrison's have come in mostly non-league and League Two.For the record I want Ellis to sign the contract as I think he has good attributes and will get better. If you only count the games he's started it's a 1 in 2 record, impressive, even if it is mostly at a lower level. Harrison's L1 record: 1 full season, 8 goals. Ball's L1 record: 3 full seasons - 8 goals, 5 goals, 14 goals. Ball is a few years older, would warrant more money I imagine and would probably be our main striker. Doesn't that just say it all re: wanting to replace players due to familiarity? It's pointless.
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Post by alvestongas on Jun 23, 2017 16:12:24 GMT
I'm glad that Ellis is staying. He does need to improve in areas but he has a goal in his locker and more than capable of winning games single handed with one flash of quality. Additional if DC agreed to offer him a new deal that should be enough for all of us to know the lad is worth it.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jun 23, 2017 16:21:17 GMT
Great, so it looks like no other team is prepared to offer him anything better! It looks like Padstow got this one wrong. Padstow's offer wasn't high enough!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 23, 2017 16:35:01 GMT
Sssh! Or we will end up with James too! Harrison and James to spearhead our promotion charge next year ?😉 Dream Team - Spearhead.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 23, 2017 16:39:46 GMT
I think the bit that frustrates me is other teams in our League are signing much much better strikers and will be stronger for it and all we are hearing at the moment is that two maybe three failed L1 strikers are signing on again. Appreciate 'failed'might be unfair as they are learning their trade at this level but the rest of th league won't wait for us to catch up experience wise and these guys need to step up ! We can't compete if we aren't scoring goals regularly ! Ball to Fleetwood Whitingham - Blackburn McAleny - Rotherham Beckford - Bury McDonald - Wimbledon Marshall - Charlton Miller - Peterborough All of these are way better than what we currently have or suggest having .....I trust our manager but life would feel way much better if we had some positive Striker news soon. ! For starters you've named a central midfielder and a winger in your striker list. I don't quite understand how others have signed 'better strikers' when we haven't signed any for comparison. Ball has a worse record than Harrison, Beckford has been very streaky over the last 5 years and will be on megabucks. McDonald has also seen better days. McAleny and Miller moved for geography, or at least it had to be a factor. At least wait to see what we sign before stating that some average strikers are far superior. Miller could be the next MT or Vardy or equally the next Jamie White, you can hardly say he's a better signing than EH until he's actually scoring goals at this level. Gill have just signed Tom Eeaves after he had a shocking season at Yeovil, I'd sooner we keep EH over signing him. It's a bit odd, yesterday fans were going crazy because DC had signed a long contract today probably the same posters are questioning why he's re-signing EH!
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