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Post by poorblue on Jul 29, 2017 10:49:53 GMT
Apparently you have no evidence to substantiate the statement there was a one sided agreement. If you have please share. Agreed though we are sure it will be sorted out to progress to construction. If the initial deal was that good then I guess it would have been signed ... there are problems to iron-out or why else would it not all be signed, sealed and delivered by now. Unfortunately, I don't share your optimism as I think we would hear encouraging noises again if a deal was close. Why do you think if the initial deal was good but not signed there were/are problems. It could be that as new owners they want a different vision which would be even better for both parties so it is taking time to adjust to this new vision. Wael has stated he is disappointed in how long it takes to move things forward with all the red tape associated with large projects in the UK. He never intimated there were problems exceptthe time taken.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jul 29, 2017 11:01:42 GMT
Very easy to put all the blame on Steve Hamer but he is just the poor sod who has to do what he is told whilst others get all the praise. Then a sensible bloke would keep quiet until he could say something firm. But fans like you suck up any gullible crap your fed
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Post by BrightonGas on Jul 29, 2017 11:06:18 GMT
Very easy to put all the blame on Steve Hamer but he is just the poor sod who has to do what he is told whilst others get all the praise. Then a sensible bloke would keep quiet until he could say something firm. But fans like you suck up any gullible crap your fed That's a bit harsh!! Don't take any notice stevek192
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 11:13:20 GMT
If the initial deal was that good then I guess it would have been signed ... there are problems to iron-out or why else would it not all be signed, sealed and delivered by now. Unfortunately, I don't share your optimism as I think we would hear encouraging noises again if a deal was close. Why do you think if the initial deal was good but not signed there were/are problems. It could be that as new owners they want a different vision which would be even better for both parties so it is taking time to adjust to this new vision. Wael has stated he is disappointed in how long it takes to move things forward with all the red tape associated with large projects in the UK. He never intimated there were problems exceptthe time taken. No, what I said was if the initial deal was good it would have been signed. I don't think its red tape holding things up and I think it must be something more fundamental to explain the length of delay we have seen. Still, I admire your optimism and hope it's well placed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 12:51:27 GMT
Why do you think if the initial deal was good but not signed there were/are problems. It could be that as new owners they want a different vision which would be even better for both parties so it is taking time to adjust to this new vision. Wael has stated he is disappointed in how long it takes to move things forward with all the red tape associated with large projects in the UK. He never intimated there were problems exceptthe time taken. No, what I said was if the initial deal was good it would have been signed. I don't think its red tape holding things up and I think it must be something more fundamental to explain the length of delay we have seen. Still, I admire your optimism and hope it's well placed. Think the main difference was the previous board were leasing the land the new board want to buy it and the university will only sell at their price which the new owners don't think is a fair one.so it's deadlock and will continue to be so So unless a new sitem can be found its redevelop the mem
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 29, 2017 12:54:19 GMT
Very easy to put all the blame on Steve Hamer but he is just the poor sod who has to do what he is told whilst others get all the praise. Then a sensible bloke would keep quiet until he could say something firm. But fans like you suck up any gullible crap your fed But what if wael has instructed hamer to come out and say the things he says ? Pretty sure he has to do what he's asked to do by the owner. I know that's how things operate in my line of work , things are delegated to other members of staff.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 29, 2017 12:57:55 GMT
Then a sensible bloke would keep quiet until he could say something firm. But fans like you suck up any gullible crap your fed But what if wael has instructed hamer to come out and say the things he says ? Pretty sure he has to do what he's asked to do by the owner. I know that's how things operate in my line of work , things are delegated to other members of staff. Someone should tweet WAQ to find out if he does indeed instruct our chairman to talk bollocks or if he manages it on his own. The guy deserves some credit.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 29, 2017 13:01:42 GMT
But what if wael has instructed hamer to come out and say the things he says ? Pretty sure he has to do what he's asked to do by the owner. I know that's how things operate in my line of work , things are delegated to other members of staff. Someone should tweet WAQ to find out if he does indeed instruct our chairman to talk bollocks or if he manages it on his own. The guy deserves some credit. I don't have twitter I'm afraid 🙂
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 29, 2017 13:08:06 GMT
Someone should tweet WAQ to find out if he does indeed instruct our chairman to talk bollocks or if he manages it on his own. The guy deserves some credit. I don't have twitter I'm afraid 🙂 That's a shame, tweeting WAQ appears to be the only way to find out what's going on with the club. That and being a bus driver.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 13:26:13 GMT
No, what I said was if the initial deal was good it would have been signed. I don't think its red tape holding things up and I think it must be something more fundamental to explain the length of delay we have seen. Still, I admire your optimism and hope it's well placed. Think the main difference was the previous board were leasing the land the new board want to buy it and the university will only sell at their price which the new owners don't think is a fair one.so it's deadlock and will continue to be so So unless a new sitem can be found its redevelop the mem I believe that particular issue has been sorted - the land is being leased.
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 29, 2017 16:28:24 GMT
Agreed, I bet he really regrets the landing lights comment. Unfortunately that will be associated with him for ever! Mods Showing a graphic that shows the instant that lots of people lost there lives in a plane crash, which at best is poor taste but in truth is down right discusting. Please have some decentcy and remove it.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 29, 2017 16:53:12 GMT
Very easy to put all the blame on Steve Hamer but he is just the poor sod who has to do what he is told whilst others get all the praise. Then a sensible bloke would keep quiet until he could say something firm. But fans like you suck up any gullible crap your fed oh dear............ Attack the post not the poster
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 29, 2017 16:56:21 GMT
No, what I said was if the initial deal was good it would have been signed. I don't think its red tape holding things up and I think it must be something more fundamental to explain the length of delay we have seen. Still, I admire your optimism and hope it's well placed. Think the main difference was the previous board were leasing the land the new board want to buy it and the university will only sell at their price which the new owners don't think is a fair one.so it's deadlock and will continue to be so So unless a new sitem can be found its redevelop the memnever happen, ground share with the city would be a better option
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 29, 2017 17:10:51 GMT
Mods Showing a graphic that shows the instant that lots of people lost there lives in a plane crash, which at best is poor taste but in truth is down right discusting. Please have some decentcy and remove it. Have edited. I invite feedback, below.
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Post by aghast on Jul 29, 2017 19:12:19 GMT
Then a sensible bloke would keep quiet until he could say something firm. But fans like you suck up any gullible crap your fed oh dear............ Attack the post not the poster Or the spelling.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 29, 2017 21:06:04 GMT
Very easy to put all the blame on Steve Hamer but he is just the poor sod who has to do what he is told whilst others get all the praise. He is paid though. It is a job & comes with the perks & the crap that well paid jobs entail. Genuine question - has there ever been a paid chair of BRFC before?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 30, 2017 2:40:24 GMT
Seems to me two scenarios we're playing some kind of brinksmanship with the UWE before announcing a deals been agreed and then it'll be full steam ahead on all the projects but in the meantime everything is on hold until a deal is agreed, or the ALQ's can't now raise the finance for the deals and the UWE/The Colony projects are now both dead, as all the positive updates seem to have stopped, but how much longer can Wael/SH avoid the press once the season starts? I doubt DC knows what's going on but when Wael dangled a 5 year improved contract in front of him he would have been a fool to turn it down. That's the bit that worries me. Wael has always said finance is not a problem, so what can we do other than believe him? To be cynical about this seems wrong though because money is being spent in areas we haven't seen before. My concern and right from day one, longevity. I've a feel of unease about the clubs future and just how long the Al Qadi family will stay. Going on nothing but gut feel, my worry is that we could possibly see them sell on. We now also have 10 million gone from our only asset. Yes, lots has happened in improving certain things but the UWE meanwhile drags on and the colony shows no real sign of progressing from what is is to what it should be The honeymoon period is now over and DC openly said 10-14 players in & that hasn't happened. I see only loans in now. Sorry to be negative but just for the sake of balance, were this happening under Nick Higgs then people would be up in arms. We are not being given ANY palpable updates so can only speculate. I hope I am wrong but I feel we could well be in a position where we see the club change hands again. Just my opinion of course
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Post by garystash on Jul 30, 2017 6:47:07 GMT
That's the bit that worries me. Wael has always said finance is not a problem, so what can we do other than believe him? To be cynical about this seems wrong though because money is being spent in areas we haven't seen before. My concern and right from day one, longevity. I've a feel of unease about the clubs future and just how long the Al Qadi family will stay. Going on nothing but gut feel, my worry is that we could possibly see them sell on. We now also have 10 million gone from our only asset. Yes, lots has happened in improving certain things but the UWE meanwhile drags on and the colony shows no real sign of progressing from what is is to what it should be The honeymoon period is now over and DC openly said 10-14 players in & that hasn't happened. I see only loans in now. Sorry to be negative but just for the sake of balance, were this happening under Nick Higgs then people would be up in arms. We are not being given ANY palpable updates so can only speculate. I hope I am wrong but I feel we could well be in a position where we see the club change hands again. Just my opinion of course I too feel the club is in a very vulnerable position at the moment, with no option but to trust the Al-Qadis. Yes lots has been done, but the cost of this work is owed to Dwane Sports. The club actually has no way of repaying it aside from selling the Mem. There are also stories of people not being paid. Ex-directors, sub-contractors and the like. All of which is slightly worrying. With regard to the players, this could be DC refusing to pay asking prices or wages rather than a lack of funds. He has always praised the owners, and I noticed in a recent interview Chris Hargreaves thanked them too. Maybe this praise for the AQs is all a bit stepford wives, but maybe they are actually well intentioned, good people - who knows?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 6:55:56 GMT
That's the bit that worries me. Wael has always said finance is not a problem, so what can we do other than believe him? To be cynical about this seems wrong though because money is being spent in areas we haven't seen before. My concern and right from day one, longevity. I've a feel of unease about the clubs future and just how long the Al Qadi family will stay. Going on nothing but gut feel, my worry is that we could possibly see them sell on. We now also have 10 million gone from our only asset. Yes, lots has happened in improving certain things but the UWE meanwhile drags on and the colony shows no real sign of progressing from what is is to what it should be The honeymoon period is now over and DC openly said 10-14 players in & that hasn't happened. I see only loans in now. Sorry to be negative but just for the sake of balance, were this happening under Nick Higgs then people would be up in arms. We are not being given ANY palpable updates so can only speculate. I hope I am wrong but I feel we could well be in a position where we see the club change hands again. Just my opinion of course I can't really disagree with anything you're saying here - I hope you're wrong - but as you say the honeymoon period has been over a while now IMO. The only real positive for me is we still have DC who is doing his level best to attract players to the club, to a crap stadium/infrastructure without spending vast amounts of money. Until something really tangible develops on the infrastructure side I will remain pessimistic. As I may have said before - I'm a pessimist because I've gone through life listening to too many optimists.
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