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Post by gastronaut on Aug 9, 2017 10:53:24 GMT
Everyone wants some sort of huge multiplex inclusive stadium with hotels, conference centres etc. But let's be realistic, how many of those are there really??? There are loads of redeveloped old stadium though, whose clubs do rather well; Old Trafford (built on existing site)St James Pk, Goddison, Anfield, Chelsea, the list is really quite large. Those that moved out; Coventry (oops) swansea, Man City (gifted the ground) West Ham (gifted the ground). You get the idea. It's not the Holy Grail is all I'm saying. I made a similar point earlier - I agree with you Beaver
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Post by peterparker on Aug 9, 2017 10:56:26 GMT
I didn't realise they've "developed The Colony" - how did I miss that? The grass is looking the best I've seen it for years! "They have tried to get UWE off the ground but been thwarted by the other party" I'd love to hear what they have to say, and whether they now plough ahead with developing their own stadium. As far as an owner wanting to develop the Mem wasn't that also the case with Dunford & Higgs, the problem is ,as always at Rovers, owners can never see it though to conclusion and unless Wael shows some proof he is prepared to invest big money in the club i.e. a proper marquee signing this summer for starters and Bodin tied down to a long term contract, then I'll remain sceptical. UWE can build a stadium if they want, but a) they need money to build it and b) someone to use it otherwise it's as no go a thing for them as it is currently for us
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Post by gastower on Aug 9, 2017 11:31:18 GMT
Lansdown Enterprises ?
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Post by abbeygas on Aug 9, 2017 11:50:25 GMT
watered right off with this. All my enthusiasm is gone. Sack the fecking board.
I must say you kept that enthusiasm well hidden.
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Post by baggins on Aug 9, 2017 11:50:44 GMT
The grass is looking the best I've seen it for years! "They have tried to get UWE off the ground but been thwarted by the other party" I'd love to hear what they have to say, and whether they now plough ahead with developing their own stadium. As far as an owner wanting to develop the Mem wasn't that also the case with Dunford & Higgs, the problem is ,as always at Rovers, owners can never see it though to conclusion and unless Wael shows some proof he is prepared to invest big money in the club i.e. a proper marquee signing this summer for starters and Bodin tied down to a long term contract, then I'll remain sceptical. UWE can build a stadium if they want, but a) they need money to build it and b) someone to use it otherwise it's as no go a thing for them as it is currently for us And planning permission.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2017 11:53:45 GMT
Everyone wants some sort of huge multiplex inclusive stadium with hotels, conference centres etc. But let's be realistic, how many of those are there really??? There are loads of redeveloped old stadium though, whose clubs do rather well; Old Trafford (built on existing site)St James Pk, Goddison, Anfield, Chelsea, the list is really quite large. Those that moved out; Coventry (oops) swansea, Man City (gifted the ground) West Ham (gifted the ground). You get the idea. It's not the Holy Grail is all I'm saying. I made a similar point earlier - I agree with you Beaver Goodison & Stamford Bridge are about to be demolished plus isn't there already a Chelsea Village with an hotel etc anyway? Anfield was rebuilt by buying loads of cheap nearby houses demolishing them anything near the Mem probably starts at £200K/300K for one property? Regardless our big problem is the small plot of land & BCC plus I guess financing a rebuild. The likes of Bury & Gillingham are suggesting they need new grounds to progress and they have nothing like our fan base. We could probably fill a 15K capacity ground now let along in the Championship/Premiership.
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Post by abbeygas on Aug 9, 2017 11:55:16 GMT
OK so to add my 2p worth living overseas it's how I see it although probably totally wrong. We don't know what potential plans there are to develop the mem. Are there plans to buy out housing to enlarge the area to incorporate potential additional revenue streams ie hotel or student accommodation,corporate functions etc. We had planning permission for 18000 why can't we increase that to 20-21k. Wael is not stupid he would only look to develop the mem if it was financially feasible.
I very much doubt we will be buying up houses just to flatten them bearing in mind house prices in Bristol these days.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 9, 2017 11:55:59 GMT
Yeah, to be honest, although not wanting to sound like a conspiracy nut, istm there are enough rugger buggers and friends of Lansdown at UWE to make me wonder whether they were dragging their heels and moving the goalposts in a deliberate Sainsbury's-esque way to put us off and leave the field open for a Steve Lansdown Memorial Stadium on the site.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 11:56:18 GMT
We're f**ked.. chimpy said so.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 9, 2017 11:58:23 GMT
UWE can build a stadium if they want, but a) they need money to build it and b) someone to use it otherwise it's as no go a thing for them as it is currently for us And planning permission. The land has planning permission though. It would either need to be extended for the current design or a different design would require PP, but should be easy enough to achieve given that one has already been passed.
Uwe either have to sell the land for something else, find money to build something else or enter into an agreement with someone to build and get a 20k stadium that will be used semi regularly
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Post by baggins on Aug 9, 2017 12:04:14 GMT
The land has planning permission though. It would either need to be extended for the current design or a different design would require PP, but should be easy enough to achieve given that one has already been passed.
Uwe either have to sell the land for something else, find money to build something else or enter into an agreement with someone to build and get a 20k stadium that will be used semi regularly
Hopefully none of that will happen for them.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 9, 2017 12:06:23 GMT
We could build a new stand on the car park and move everything over, but that means more on street parking. Brentford have started building their new ground, but for a few miles around the present ground there is a residents parking only scheme, and it means that supporters have to get to the ground on public transport. Brentford has a bus every 2 minutes. The train station is 5 minutes away, the tube 30 minutes walking.
What would we do if they imposed a residents parking only scheme around the Mem?
My second point is that the UWE could be expanded but whatever the Mem is built to it cannot be expanded. I guess it will be around 18k.
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Post by abbeygas on Aug 9, 2017 12:10:25 GMT
Yeah, to be honest, although not wanting to sound like a conspiracy nut, istm there are enough rugger buggers and friends of Lansdown at UWE to make me wonder whether they were dragging their heels and moving the goalposts in a deliberate Sainsbury's-esque way to put us off and leave the field open for a Steve Lansdown Memorial Stadium on the site.
Is he really that spiteful.......probably.
If so we should project that photo of him and Higgsy holding a Rovers flag over the stadium at the opening ceremony.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 9, 2017 12:14:57 GMT
We could build a new stand on the car park and move everything over, but that means more on street parking. Brentford have started building their new ground, but for a few miles around the present ground there is a residents parking only scheme, and it means that supporters have to get to the ground on public transport. Brentford has a bus every 2 minutes. The train station is 5 minutes away, the tube 30 minutes walking. What would we do if they imposed a residents parking only scheme around the Mem? My second point is that the UWE could be expanded but whatever the Mem is built to it cannot be expanded. I guess it will be around 18k. wasn't an RPZ one of the conditions of the Mem project before anyway?
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Post by pirate49 on Aug 9, 2017 12:16:09 GMT
Yeah, to be honest, although not wanting to sound like a conspiracy nut, istm there are enough rugger buggers and friends of Lansdown at UWE to make me wonder whether they were dragging their heels and moving the goalposts in a deliberate Sainsbury's-esque way to put us off and leave the field open for a Steve Lansdown Memorial Stadium on the site. Have thought this for a long time. Plenty of options with Bristol and Bath Rugby, the developing interest in Ladies football and rugby, athletics ( so UWE could long term challenge Bath), hockey...even speedway and greyhound. Make it really attractive to the university with jogging/gym facilities for the students. Ashton Gate will always be Ashton Gate, but here's a possibility for the UWE Lansdown Stadium. Far-fetched?
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Post by garystash on Aug 9, 2017 12:21:46 GMT
Yeah, to be honest, although not wanting to sound like a conspiracy nut, istm there are enough rugger buggers and friends of Lansdown at UWE to make me wonder whether they were dragging their heels and moving the goalposts in a deliberate Sainsbury's-esque way to put us off and leave the field open for a Steve Lansdown Memorial Stadium on the site. Isn't Chris Booy connected to both UWE and Bristol Sport?
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Post by knowall on Aug 9, 2017 12:30:34 GMT
Yeah, to be honest, although not wanting to sound like a conspiracy nut, istm there are enough rugger buggers and friends of Lansdown at UWE to make me wonder whether they were dragging their heels and moving the goalposts in a deliberate Sainsbury's-esque way to put us off and leave the field open for a Steve Lansdown Memorial Stadium on the site. Isn't Chris Booy connected to both UWE and Bristol Sport? Chris Booy OBE Chris Booy was Group Chairman of Symonds Group which was sold to Capita in 2004. He is now non-executive Chairman at Capita Symonds. Chris’ community and charitable interests include the Clifton Suspension Bridge Trust, the S.S. Great Britain Trust and Bristol Rugby Club. He represents the South West as one of six Chairs of the 2015 Rugby World Cup Regional Legacy Group. Chris is also a member of the Downs Committee and a governor at the University West of England.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 12:34:28 GMT
We could build a new stand on the car park and move everything over, but that means more on street parking. Brentford have started building their new ground, but for a few miles around the present ground there is a residents parking only scheme, and it means that supporters have to get to the ground on public transport. Brentford has a bus every 2 minutes. The train station is 5 minutes away, the tube 30 minutes walking. What would we do if they imposed a residents parking only scheme around the Mem? My second point is that the UWE could be expanded but whatever the Mem is built to it cannot be expanded. I guess it will be around 18k. Someone on here mentioned about the bus station or the old B&Q could be used as carparks and Markets/Carboot.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 9, 2017 12:35:24 GMT
Isn't Chris Booy connected to both UWE and Bristol Sport? Chris Booy OBE Chris Booy was Group Chairman of Symonds Group which was sold to Capita in 2004. He is now non-executive Chairman at Capita Symonds. Chris’ community and charitable interests include the Clifton Suspension Bridge Trust, the S.S. Great Britain Trust and Bristol Rugby Club. He represents the South West as one of six Chairs of the 2015 Rugby World Cup Regional Legacy Group. Chris is also a member of the Downs Committee and a governor at the University West of England. The UWE to become the new home of Bristol Rugby?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2017 12:37:19 GMT
We could build a new stand on the car park and move everything over, but that means more on street parking. Brentford have started building their new ground, but for a few miles around the present ground there is a residents parking only scheme, and it means that supporters have to get to the ground on public transport. Brentford has a bus every 2 minutes. The train station is 5 minutes away, the tube 30 minutes walking. What would we do if they imposed a residents parking only scheme around the Mem? My second point is that the UWE could be expanded but whatever the Mem is built to it cannot be expanded. I guess it will be around 18k. Someone on here mentioned about the bus station or the old B&Q could be used as carparks and Markets/Carboot. So we're going to buy real estate probably worth £m's just for a car park? You do wonder what planet some of our fans live on!
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