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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 8, 2017 19:20:21 GMT
Fair comment & we will never know. But 18 months ago the old board & new board both agreed the development of the Mem was not feasible. Perhaps, if the Al Qadi's did their homework properly & really looked at the original deal with NH, they wouldn't have bothered with the takeover, or perhaps the other 11 offers NH had, did look closely & pulled out? As you say we don't know details. All I know is that NH lied & the new board has not been completely truthful with the fans. "All I know is that NH lied & the new board has not been completely truthful with the fans" suggests that the new board have lied, I'm interested to know how do you know that? Ok deliberately misleading the fans then, landing gear, Mem not feasible - either way, I don't feel I can trust what they say now.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 8, 2017 19:20:54 GMT
“This emotion came after it was over. It was kind of a relief, we have our own ground, and the club has its own land - let’s regenerate the Mem. Why not?” Al-Qadi told the Post. Just f**k off already. is that an actual quote... Wael has lost it, if he believes transforming the mem is the way forward. no bigger than 18k. dissapointing.
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Post by pirate on Aug 8, 2017 19:23:07 GMT
“This emotion came after it was over. It was kind of a relief, we have our own ground, and the club has its own land - let’s regenerate the Mem. Why not?” Al-Qadi told the Post. Just f**k off already. is that an actual quote... Wael has lost it, if he believes transforming the mem is the way forward. no bigger than 18k. dissapointing. It's from the Bristol Post today.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 8, 2017 19:24:34 GMT
Thinking for a few weeks thought they don't have the wonga, now convinced. Hamer said at the beginning of all this staying put was not an option, what happened to the hotels casino s and all the other glitz, will be on a par with our Christmas grotto, wish the other consortium had got the deal now. Like just getting oranges for Christmas when I was young!
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Post by singupgas on Aug 8, 2017 19:28:39 GMT
I never thought I'd be disappointed with Gas having an all seater stadium, redeveloping the mem would be an improvement... but will reduce our attractiveness in the city.
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Post by beaver132 on Aug 8, 2017 19:39:56 GMT
So either you believe that WAQ has no further interest in the club and is willing to walk away from us, or he has no access to the cash and is treading water, or he is willing to pay out to do the best he can, and maybe the Mem development will be the best. Either way, people seem entrenched in their views and only real progress on both the training ground and Stadium will get people on board.
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 8, 2017 19:43:25 GMT
Would redeveloping The Mem be that bad? If we could find another site suitable in 5-6 years? I know it'll be even more time and money but other clubs have done it. Leicester completely redevoloped Filbert St and then moved to a new stadium about 5 years after. Derby did the same to The Baseball Ground and then moved to Pride Park about 3 years after. Whether it is feasible for Rovers to do something similar, I dont know, and its probably doubtful. But it has been done before It's either the mem or nothing for now so I think it's great their going ahead with it, as if we would fill 25,000 straight away anyway...build up a 14-15000 attendance with a lot less outgoings has to be a great way forward for us...
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Post by Icegas on Aug 8, 2017 19:47:09 GMT
Would redeveloping The Mem be that bad? If we could find another site suitable in 5-6 years? I know it'll be even more time and money but other clubs have done it. Leicester completely redevoloped Filbert St and then moved to a new stadium about 5 years after. Derby did the same to The Baseball Ground and then moved to Pride Park about 3 years after. Whether it is feasible for Rovers to do something similar, I dont know, and its probably doubtful. But it has been done before Our long term goal and potential of our fanbase has to be the top flight/premiership and do what Swansea,Bournemouth,Reading, Wigan,Brighton etc... have done over the years and the Mems site is not big enough for this. But right now maybe we have no choice.Build the Mem into a 20k arena,get into the championship and try to build up to the premiership over the next decade then rebuild of need be at another site.
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Post by garystash on Aug 8, 2017 19:50:49 GMT
I do feeel like we were fed a load of BS when we were told the drainage and re-surfacing had no bearing on us moving.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 8, 2017 19:54:45 GMT
I have always supported developing the MEM and in fairness to WAQ, he has got in line with his Dad, who has probably said, "I am not wasting my hard earned cash" and he has told WAQ at best he will continue to pay for the up-keep of the MEM. We all know Raddice and her cronies will kick-off and the whole planning fiasco will drag on for another 10 years, by that time WAQ and family will be on their toes and long gone. **** ground hog day all over again, and through out that time we will just keep on going up and down between the 3rd and 4th divisions, "second verse same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse. UTG
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Post by asparagas on Aug 8, 2017 19:55:24 GMT
Delighted we're staying. Glos rd is great, it's full of tits fanny and the rovers.
18000 is more than enough. Some people need to stop using c*tys capacity as a bench mark.
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Post by aghast on Aug 8, 2017 20:27:57 GMT
Here's what Trashorfield had to say on the subject two years ago: ................................ TRASHorfield would welcome a proper discussion about possible future uses of the site – a future which does not trample on local businesses, nor on the health and wellbeing of local people. This famous sports ground could be modernised, in a fitting and proportional way, given its war memorial status and residential setting. The Memorial Ground is not a brownfield site. It is a sport heritage site, laden with rugby and football memories – and nearly a hundred years old. It is a special and practical type of WW1 war memorial and should remain dedicated to sport and recreation, as was intended by its founders. The Directors of Bristol Rovers have failed to grasp these simple facts – hence the strong objections to the prospect of a Sainsbury’s supermarket on the war memorial sport ground. ................................. The italics were from Trash, not me. I imagine they will rise from the ashes if Wael tries anything too ambitious. trashorfield.wordpress.com/
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Post by singupgas on Aug 8, 2017 20:36:14 GMT
Here's what Trashorfield had to say on the subject two years ago: ................................ TRASHorfield would welcome a proper discussion about possible future uses of the site – a future which does not trample on local businesses, nor on the health and wellbeing of local people. This famous sports ground could be modernised, in a fitting and proportional way, given its war memorial status and residential setting. The Memorial Ground is not a brownfield site. It is a sport heritage site, laden with rugby and football memories – and nearly a hundred years old. It is a special and practical type of WW1 war memorial and should remain dedicated to sport and recreation, as was intended by its founders. The Directors of Bristol Rovers have failed to grasp these simple facts – hence the strong objections to the prospect of a Sainsbury’s supermarket on the war memorial sport ground. ................................. The italics were from Trash, not me. I imagine they will rise from the ashes if Wael tries anything too ambitious. trashorfield.wordpress.com/I am not architect. but could a new ground be built with the pitch much lower allowing for a bigger capacity stadium and it not have such an effect on the skyline..
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 8, 2017 20:43:48 GMT
I may be barking up the wrong tree, but surely the 18,500 capacity was predicated on us having to accommodate student flats, if we don't have to include student flats won't there be more space for a bigger capacity, maybe similar to the 21,000 planned for the UWE?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 8, 2017 20:48:04 GMT
I never thought I'd be disappointed with Gas having an all seater stadium, redeveloping the mem would be an improvement... but will reduce our attractiveness in the city. How would it reduce our attractiveness if it's better than what we currently have?
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Post by yategas78 on Aug 8, 2017 20:51:01 GMT
I won't believe anything until I am sat or stood in a fully redeveloped MEM ain't holding my breath , yet another false dawn never gonna get off of the ground. I am so watered off but this is the GAS after all so should be used it by now I suppose!!
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Post by singupgas on Aug 8, 2017 20:52:23 GMT
I never thought I'd be disappointed with Gas having an all seater stadium, redeveloping the mem would be an improvement... but will reduce our attractiveness in the city. How would it reduce our attractiveness if it's better than what we currently have? Balo, my bad, I meant kids choosing us or the sh**.. not doubt a new ground will be better than what we currently have.
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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 8, 2017 20:52:41 GMT
Here's what Trashorfield had to say on the subject two years ago: ................................ TRASHorfield would welcome a proper discussion about possible future uses of the site – a future which does not trample on local businesses, nor on the health and wellbeing of local people. This famous sports ground could be modernised, in a fitting and proportional way, given its war memorial status and residential setting. The Memorial Ground is not a brownfield site. It is a sport heritage site, laden with rugby and football memories – and nearly a hundred years old. It is a special and practical type of WW1 war memorial and should remain dedicated to sport and recreation, as was intended by its founders. The Directors of Bristol Rovers have failed to grasp these simple facts – hence the strong objections to the prospect of a Sainsbury’s supermarket on the war memorial sport ground. ................................. The italics were from Trash, not me. I imagine they will rise from the ashes if Wael tries anything too ambitious. trashorfield.wordpress.com/I am not architect. but could a new ground be built with the pitch much lower allowing for a bigger capacity stadium and it not have such an effect on the skyline.. No idea, but I think someone mentioned this or underground parking, but drainage issues were quoted I think. Nevertheless, the infrastructure around the stadium is rubbish & don't know how much that will cost. I hate the idea of redevelopment of the Mem & don't think it's viable - but Wael has decided so we need to see what plans he has. Whatever they are, as aghast suggests, son of Trash, may soon be raising its ugly head.
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Post by RD on Aug 8, 2017 20:52:46 GMT
Why is everyone banging on about a re-developed 18k seater Mem?
He hasn't said anything about increased capacity so don't get your hopes up.
Re-developed Mem probably means a lick of paint in the club member's room and some better quality toilet roll in the loos.
Still have a fan base full of dreamers I see!
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Post by speedwellgas on Aug 8, 2017 21:02:17 GMT
Why is everyone banging on about a re-developed 18k seater Mem? He hasn't said anything about increased capacity so don't get your hopes up. Re-developed Mem probably means a lick of paint in the club member's room and some better quality toilet roll in the loos. Still have a fan base full of dreamers I see! If that's what the club consider to be a substantive redevelopment I would rather carry on wiping my arse with tracing paper.
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