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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 8, 2017 18:34:50 GMT
Looks like some paint and maybe the odd floodlight bulb replaced then, Yet another pipe dream that probably won't happen by directors of this club. The whole place needs bulldozing, it's a dump and totally unfit for purpose. I hope he has serious plans ready for action, every day that we delay the further behind we go from other teams. Let alone the costs that will be involved fighting to get planning permission on the current site.
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Post by 84gas on Aug 8, 2017 18:36:04 GMT
So the family aren't willing to pay the extra to get UWE over the line when they would be getting around 15-20 million for the sale of the mem....yet people think they will spend their own money on a decent mem redevelopment with nothing to sell to raise funds!?! Wake up!!....best EVER chance to take club forward up in smoke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 18:38:20 GMT
watered right off with this. All my enthusiasm is gone. Sack the fecking board.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 8, 2017 18:38:43 GMT
He still hasn't told us exactly why the UWE deal failed. A mystery according to UWE. He told us they were under a confidentiality agreement. The best they could do was vaguely snipe that UWE were taking ages and moving the goalposts. We won't get any better than that, unless someone leaks.
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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 8, 2017 18:39:24 GMT
I despair, thought it couldn't get any worse. Is he taking the water? I doubt that with extra seating we would even get 15000. Unless they buy up houses & demolish them. Look at the traffic when we have 7-8,000 in. Whats going to happen in 5 years time after we have lost another £7-8 million & spent another £5 million on surveys planning legal fees etc etc, been through hell & high water with planning, protests, JR, High Court battles, are we going to walk away from a deal again? Sorry, this is not the way forward as far as I can see
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Post by combegas on Aug 8, 2017 18:39:30 GMT
If this really is the only option and absolutely no chance of a stadium elsewhere then realistically would a stadium regeneration be sustainable for championship football as that has to be the long term goal?? Premier league football would be the ultimate, but the money involved is at another level, probably a pipe dream?? If we could turn the pitch though, could we have an entire safe standing end for the Gas and the away end in direct sunlight!! 😂😂
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 8, 2017 18:41:30 GMT
I despair, thought it couldn't get any worse. Is he taking the water? I doubt that with extra seating we would even get 15000. Unless they buy up houses & demolish them. Look at the traffic when we have 7-8,000 in. Whats going to happen in 5 years time after we have lost another £7-8 million & spent another £5 million on surveys planning legal fees etc etc, been through hell & high water with planning, protests, JR, High Court battles, are we going to walk away from a deal again? Sorry, this is not the way forward as far as I can see Unless you know what the deal is it's hard to form an opinion on whether we should have walked away from it or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 18:42:54 GMT
Will never happen,just buying time before their on their toes.What a Dam way to start the new season.
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Post by garystash on Aug 8, 2017 18:43:55 GMT
Well, let's see exactly what it means to "redevelop the mem". Could be brilliant, could be embarrasing.
Either way, I'll believe it when I'm sat in it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 18:44:11 GMT
The decision to spend money on the pitch is becoming very clear now, Not sure how to feel about this news................ Absolutely, as some said you don't spend £100k on a pitch only to rip it up at the end of next season. And they cleaned the carpets and curtains don't forget .......................... Ah - it's all adding up now!!! .
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 8, 2017 18:50:17 GMT
Well, let's see exactly what it means to "redevelop the mem". Could be brilliant, could be embarrasing. Either way, I'll believe it when I'm sat in it. I bet you're not sat in it in six years time!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 8, 2017 18:51:19 GMT
I despair, thought it couldn't get any worse. Is he taking the water? I doubt that with extra seating we would even get 15000. Unless they buy up houses & demolish them. Look at the traffic when we have 7-8,000 in. Whats going to happen in 5 years time after we have lost another £7-8 million & spent another £5 million on surveys planning legal fees etc etc, been through hell & high water with planning, protests, JR, High Court battles, are we going to walk away from a deal again? Sorry, this is not the way forward as far as I can see Unless you know what the deal is it's hard to form an opinion on whether we should have walked away from it or not. Although, remarkably, a lot of very firm opinions have been formed.
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Post by francegas on Aug 8, 2017 18:58:23 GMT
OK so to add my 2p worth living overseas it's how I see it although probably totally wrong. We don't know what potential plans there are to develop the mem. Are there plans to buy out housing to enlarge the area to incorporate potential additional revenue streams ie hotel or student accommodation,corporate functions etc. We had planning permission for 18000 why can't we increase that to 20-21k. Wael is not stupid he would only look to develop the mem if it was financially feasible.
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Post by aghast on Aug 8, 2017 18:59:38 GMT
Forget the Premier League talk. We've never been there and almost certainly never will, just like most other clubs, so we'll never need a stadium like that.
All I want to see is a nice ground suitable for the Championship, which the 2007 plans would have delivered.
How they're going to pay for it, and how it will subsequently repay the investment, I have no idea, but I'm sure the owners must have some idea, or they wouldn't announce this, would they?
I just hope that a redevelopment does mean a rebuild and not more tents, paint and canopies, which would leave the club heading back to League 2 or worse.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2017 19:00:12 GMT
Unless you know what the deal is it's hard to form an opinion on whether we should have walked away from it or not. Although, remarkably, a lot of very firm opinions have been formed. Perhaps if Wael told us the real facts we'd know for certain, I can't imagine the UWE would stop us saying we couldn't afford the ground, we don't want a leasehold etc, as they are hardly Sainsburys who'll want to stop their competitors finding out details of any deals. it'll be interesting to see the UWE's next move given that they suggested they still intended proceeding with work in order to retain the pp status.
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Post by Quartermaster on Aug 8, 2017 19:01:04 GMT
For this to have any chance of being impressive I'd say the pitch must be turned to maximise capacity and something innovative has to be put forward re. parking. Many of us drive a distance and don't want to spend as long trying to park and then walking to the ground as we did driving there! I still fail to see what opportunities for other income there are there though.
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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 8, 2017 19:04:52 GMT
I despair, thought it couldn't get any worse. Is he taking the water? I doubt that with extra seating we would even get 15000. Unless they buy up houses & demolish them. Look at the traffic when we have 7-8,000 in. Whats going to happen in 5 years time after we have lost another £7-8 million & spent another £5 million on surveys planning legal fees etc etc, been through hell & high water with planning, protests, JR, High Court battles, are we going to walk away from a deal again? Sorry, this is not the way forward as far as I can see Unless you know what the deal is it's hard to form an opinion on whether we should have walked away from it or not. Fair comment & we will never know. But 18 months ago the old board & new board both agreed the development of the Mem was not feasible. Perhaps, if the Al Qadi's did their homework properly & really looked at the original deal with NH, they wouldn't have bothered with the takeover, or perhaps the other 11 offers NH had, did look closely & pulled out? As you say we don't know details. All I know is that NH lied & the new board has not been completely truthful with the fans.
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Post by Slide away on Aug 8, 2017 19:09:46 GMT
Unless you know what the deal is it's hard to form an opinion on whether we should have walked away from it or not. Fair comment & we will never know. But 18 months ago the old board & new board both agreed the development of the Mem was not feasible. Perhaps, if the Al Qadi's did their homework properly & really looked at the original deal with NH, they wouldn't have bothered with the takeover, or perhaps the other 11 offers NH had, did look closely & pulled out? As you say we don't know details. All I know is that NH lied & the new board has not been completely truthful with the fans. "All I know is that NH lied & the new board has not been completely truthful with the fans" suggests that the new board have lied, I'm interested to know how do you know that?
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Post by landersgas on Aug 8, 2017 19:10:59 GMT
Don't post often but I'm thoroughly underwhelmed with this news.
I think this has been on the cards for a long time now, stadium experts leaving last year for me set alarm bells ringing...
In some ways I'm relieved the sorry saga of UWE is over - it's the hope that kills you, and I'm old enough to remember many plans submitted and thwarted for various reasons, (politics, do-gooders, money, legal challenges) but it looks like any real long term ambition to be a significant club has 'left the building' with the absense of a credible or forward thinking plan B, and I'm doubtful we will get another chance of catching up with other clubs in my lifetime. There are some positives with staying at the Mem compared to UWE but the limitations of our current location are obvious to all.
Not confident of anything significant in terms of devlopment at the Mem so I won't get my hopes up, and when it comes to developments away from the team I think I've just about given up chasing the dream, I won't be following any news on this with any interest, if when I turn up at the mem things have improved then great, but I'm not sure what strategically as a club we are really going to achieve..
Losing interest in the whole sorry saga. Focus now just on DC and the team...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 19:13:23 GMT
What have the Al Qadis ever done for us?
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