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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 6:19:14 GMT
No shame in admitting we struggle against the better teams, evolution is gonna be slow & bumpy by the looks of it.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 13, 2017 6:33:40 GMT
How about a back 3 of J Clarke-Sweeney-Broadbent with Leadbitter & Bola as wingbacks? I'd try it. Could work well actually, especially considering our lack of quality options on the left wing at the moment. Whilst I am not a fan of this formation, as the last few seasons we haven't done as well with it, I think its worth another shot. Especially away from home with no wingers to choose.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 13, 2017 6:37:34 GMT
No shame in admitting we struggle against the better teams, evolution is gonna be slow & bumpy by the looks of it. Also is our squad that much different than say the second half of last season? Not really. Practically the same defence, just a different keeper. A better midfield with Sercombe. Getting rid of Montana was a little silly but then he was only a bit part player, then up front you have Nichols instead of James. We were also comfortably beaten by both Peterborough and Charlton twice last season so right now its neither an improvement nor are we in a worse position. Pretty much the same at the moment!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 7:21:29 GMT
Today was very poor, not going to go OTT based on one game but as I have said before this year will be DCs toughest test, in my opinion he made some significant mistakes with his squad changes this year, he has made too many changes and I understand the squad has lost some of it's togetherness, I also hear the way he treated some popular senior pro's and one or two of the youngsters has meant he has lost respect from some areas of the dressing room. That said DC is his own man, in for a penny .... time to bring 2-3 more in and set about building the team togetherness that has got us through the past 3 years. Just a shame the season has started, hopefully he will add before we are too far off the pace 🤞 A post with a bit of hearsay gossip attached,please explain the terrible way dc has treated "some senior pros"? Well BlueButterfly I guess Easter and McCrystal to name two would not have been best pleased with DC public statements last year ... which I feel could have been better handled although decision to release them was correct.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 7:24:00 GMT
Strange how some supporters who watch their side getting hammered then blame the referee and his linesmen! Sercombes booking was fully deserved, he lost the ball and pulled the man back by his shirt. Grow some balls, accept the defeat and move on. We lost that game because we were useless end of story. It's not about growing a set as you put it Not sure where you were stood when Sercs was booked but from the Thatchers end ( group of dickheads stood in the walk way to the left of goal so didn't get a clear view of it) but it didn't look like a booking. I still stand by my referee quote they were very poor IMO there where a lot of things that went unnoticed and unpunished by both the referee and linesmen but hey ho ive got no balls as I'm just blaming the officials One thing I will agree the sides performance was water poor we made an average Posh side look good I don't do player ratings but if I had to none of the team would of got more than a 5 based on todays performance. Stood in the west enclosure directly in line and Sercombe after losing the ball and his man pulled him back by grabbing hold of him. We were poor but think posh are more than average, looked a decent outfit to me, played the ball on the floor from the back to front with ease. In fact the number of times a long pass from a defender bypassing midfield led to a simple one two and they were through our back line. Embarrassing as the thread title says.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 13, 2017 7:31:17 GMT
Were you watching the same game ref was dreadfull as were the linesmen, Sercombes booking Handball in the first half, thought the player was playing basketball it was that obvious yet that went unnoticed player should of been booked. Ref 2/10 linesmen 1/10 Strange how some supporters who watch their side getting hammered then blame the referee and his linesmen! Sercombes booking was fully deserved, he lost the ball and pulled the man back by his shirt. Grow some balls, accept the defeat and move on. We lost that game because we were useless end of story. Can we stop with this pretend macho 'man up,' 'grow some balls,' 'real men accept results' bullshit, please. It's perfectly fine to discuss the game, to talk about both sides and the ref, etc, whether you win lose or draw. The real test of an argument is whether it stands up to scrutiny and questioning, and that's the essence of a forum. Pretending that the fact that we lost invalidates certain types of posting, and closes down certain discussions doesn't make any sense. Also, 'we lost coz we were useless' is so ridiculously simplistic an argument it's pretty hard to imagine someone might actually think it's worth posting. But hey, part of being a forum is that we allow sh** posts.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 13, 2017 8:23:11 GMT
In truth Peterborough played like the home side and I would have been interested to have seen Ellis in their team because I would lay odds that he would be a better player with tactics that favour good players rather than hard working ones. I don't go along with this "we need players like Sinclair who give everything". Peterborough didn't have a player anything like him. They had players with quality and good tactics who ALL pressurised us.Our team was set up like an away team and I would honestly say that 90% of League 1 teams would have beaten us yesterday. Dc must start to look at his tactics as we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 13, 2017 8:35:02 GMT
we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. Agree with this. We could do with a target man with some physicality, a direct and quick LW and strong defensive midfielder IMO. The only players we have with the sort of pace that really troubles defences are Moore and Leadbitter - one is a RB and the other isn't first choice.
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Post by knowall on Aug 13, 2017 8:48:37 GMT
In truth Peterborough played like the home side and I would have been interested to have seen Ellis in their team because I would lay odds that he would be a better player with tactics that favour good players rather than hard working ones. I don't go along with this "we need players like Sinclair who give everything". Peterborough didn't have a player anything like him. They had players with quality and good tactics who ALL pressurised us.Our team was set up like an away team and I would honestly say that 90% of League 1 teams would have beaten us yesterday. Dc must start to look at his tactics as we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. 100% agree. We had too many powder puffs on show yesterday and the whole team were unbelievably slow in thinking and actions. Defensively we finished well last season so I wonder if we are missing the influence of Steve Yates already? To Posh's credit, they chased and harried from the first minute to the last and obviously came knowing 'they don't like it up em' and boy, didn't it show.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 9:12:23 GMT
In truth Peterborough played like the home side and I would have been interested to have seen Ellis in their team because I would lay odds that he would be a better player with tactics that favour good players rather than hard working ones. I don't go along with this "we need players like Sinclair who give everything". Peterborough didn't have a player anything like him. They had players with quality and good tactics who ALL pressurised us.Our team was set up like an away team and I would honestly say that 90% of League 1 teams would have beaten us yesterday. Dc must start to look at his tactics as we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. 100% agree. We had too many powder puffs on show yesterday and the whole team were unbelievably slow in thinking and actions. Defensively we finished well last season so I wonder if we are missing the influence of Steve Yates already? To Posh's credit, they chased and harried from the first minute to the last and obviously came knowing 'they don't like it up em' and boy, didn't it show. Could be right re Steve Yates - there was no one 'patrolling' the line geeing players up yesterday like Steve used to do. A big challenge lies ahead for DC this season - a top six finish is a million miles away with this squad as it stands.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 13, 2017 9:16:28 GMT
In truth Peterborough played like the home side and I would have been interested to have seen Ellis in their team because I would lay odds that he would be a better player with tactics that favour good players rather than hard working ones. I don't go along with this "we need players like Sinclair who give everything". Peterborough didn't have a player anything like him. They had players with quality and good tactics who ALL pressurised us.Our team was set up like an away team and I would honestly say that 90% of League 1 teams would have beaten us yesterday. Dc must start to look at his tactics as we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. 100% agree. We had too many powder puffs on show yesterday and the whole team were unbelievably slow in thinking and actions. Defensively we finished well last season so I wonder if we are missing the influence of Steve Yates already? To Posh's credit, they chased and harried from the first minute to the last and obviously came knowing 'they don't like it up em' and boy, didn't it show. Very good point re Steve Yates. I totally forgot about him, it was always very norticeable him trying to encouage the players alongside the touchline. I also seriously considered him as our next manager, he clearly cared very much abiut the club. Who has replaced him?
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Post by kivorover on Aug 13, 2017 9:43:29 GMT
In truth Peterborough played like the home side and I would have been interested to have seen Ellis in their team because I would lay odds that he would be a better player with tactics that favour good players rather than hard working ones. I don't go along with this "we need players like Sinclair who give everything". Peterborough didn't have a player anything like him. They had players with quality and good tactics who ALL pressurised us.Our team was set up like an away team and I would honestly say that 90% of League 1 teams would have beaten us yesterday. Dc must start to look at his tactics as we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. Agreed!!
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2017 9:48:29 GMT
we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. Agree with this. We could do with a target man with some physicality, a direct and quick LW and strong defensive midfielder IMO. The only players we have with the sort of pace that really troubles defences are Moore and Leadbitter - one is a RB and the other isn't first choice. I don't think I've seen Moore particularly minded to use his pace yet. Never takes on his man, runs sideways into opposition players, turns, then plays an enormous long diagonal ball. Only seen him not do that about 3 times ever. Two were on Tuesday night.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 13, 2017 10:08:40 GMT
The teams performance was a reflection on how the fans feel at the moment. Lack of leadership and direction..as much as people like to think i bet the players are just as gutted that the stadium is off.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Aug 13, 2017 10:08:56 GMT
Moore not good enough.
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Post by hanham on Aug 13, 2017 10:15:12 GMT
Lines was anonymous. Browner has become too comfortable imo, he doesnt seem to have progressed as a full back. He'll make a run with the ball, foot on the ball, turn round and pass sideways or backwards. Absolutely no confidence in getting forward. I wont slate Ellis too much, but he was ineffective today to say the least. At the end of the day Peterborough were okay, but not great. From the very first second they were closing us down with two men like a shot. Our players just couldnt cope and the ball was a hot potato leading to misplaced passes and hoofs all over the shop. Posh came to pressure us, they've done their research and see we lack quality on the ball bar players like Bodin and Sercombe (and lines when he can be arsed), so came to upset us on our home patch where we've been so strong for 3 seasons. If other teams want three points off us at the Mem, all they have to do is the same (press, harry and close us down) and its job done. We havent got the quality to cope. I thought Posh wouldnt be able to keep it up all game and would be dead on their arses by the hour mark, but they pretty much kept it up. Well organised side tbf.
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Post by oldgas on Aug 13, 2017 10:16:49 GMT
I wonder if the Stoke loanee forward is going to get a game?
Likewise the Arsenal left back.
If DC manages to loan in a left winger, I wonder if he will ever play.
I have attended both league matches this season, and there appears to be a worrying lack of confidence shown by the players. I wonder if it's time to shake the side up a bit.?
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Post by slam on Aug 13, 2017 10:25:10 GMT
On the bright side, we are only 6 points off of the leaders. If we finish the season like that we will almost certainly be in the playoffs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:25:50 GMT
In truth Peterborough played like the home side and I would have been interested to have seen Ellis in their team because I would lay odds that he would be a better player with tactics that favour good players rather than hard working ones. I don't go along with this "we need players like Sinclair who give everything". Peterborough didn't have a player anything like him. They had players with quality and good tactics who ALL pressurised us.Our team was set up like an away team and I would honestly say that 90% of League 1 teams would have beaten us yesterday. Dc must start to look at his tactics as we have become predictable,slow and short of pace and power. Peterbro had a game plan that worked an absolute treat yesterday but it dosnt mean the same game plan will always work against every team! We have just had 3 seasons of consistent home performances with dc tactics,does the peterbro game make all the other games invalid?
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Post by pirate on Aug 13, 2017 10:29:51 GMT
On the bright side, we are only 6 points off of the leaders. If we finish the season like that we will almost certainly be in the playoffs “I don’t want to be hearing about the top six, I don’t want to be hearing about that, because we are miles away from being a top six team" Darrell Clarke said .
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