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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 11:50:54 GMT
Is it just me or do we seem to have a lot of playstation generation supporters on here who think we can disregard budgets and spend 'virtual' millions on players. I'm not saying we couldn't do with a couple more signings but by my reckoning we have spent at least £650k on players since January which compared to the past 20 odd years is massive. Add in the wages on top and that is a seriously big outlay but people just want more, more, more. They should be thinking Wow look how far we have come! I agree. If anything i am actually a little concerned at how much we've spent, considering the losses in our accounts in the past few years. Which is why I'd much rather us shop around for free agents and bargains as it isn't going to run us into the ground financially. People think spending money means success, just look at the teds to see that in actual fact that is far from accurate. And the rest. Would you have been a Leeds fan 5 years ago? Blackpool? Blackburn won the Title not that many years ago, overspent now down with us, I dread to think how much Newcastle spent to get back to the Prem and will hopefully go down again.
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 11:53:53 GMT
Is it just me or do we seem to have a lot of playstation generation supporters on here who think we can disregard budgets and spend 'virtual' millions on players. I'm not saying we couldn't do with a couple more signings but by my reckoning we have spent at least £650k on players since January which compared to the past 20 odd years is massive. Add in the wages on top and that is a seriously big outlay but people just want more, more, more. They should be thinking Wow look how far we have come! I don't know where you have got £650k from, but having thought about this recently, I highly doubt that figure. If we have spent that amount then we have been ripped off and could've spent it more wisely. Ripped off? Have you seen, heard, how much wages players are demanding these days, even in L1? Example. Including agent fees, signing on fees, insurance, and wages, how much do you think it cost us to get Sweeney in the squad?
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Post by pirate on Aug 18, 2017 12:01:21 GMT
I don't know where you have got £650k from, but having thought about this recently, I highly doubt that figure. If we have spent that amount then we have been ripped off and could've spent it more wisely. Ripped off? Have you seen, heard, how much wages players are demanding these days, even in L1? Example. Including agent fees, signing on fees, insurance, and wages, how much do you think it cost us to get Sweeney in the squad? The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees.
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Post by abbeygas on Aug 18, 2017 12:06:03 GMT
Is it just me or do we seem to have a lot of playstation generation supporters on here who think we can disregard budgets and spend 'virtual' millions on players. I'm not saying we couldn't do with a couple more signings but by my reckoning we have spent at least £650k on players since January which compared to the past 20 odd years is massive. Add in the wages on top and that is a seriously big outlay but people just want more, more, more. They should be thinking Wow look how far we have come! I don't know where you have got £650k from, but having thought about this recently, I highly doubt that figure. If we have spent that amount then we have been ripped off and could've spent it more wisely. I don't claim the fees to be 100% accurate and just a guess but Burn £100k, Parts £100k, Sercombe £150k, Nichols £300k. Ripped off or not we spent it.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Aug 18, 2017 12:07:59 GMT
So so so so so pleased to read some rational and sensible posts in this thread at last!
Well done guys! Far more bearable read today than yesterday!
We must accept the fact that as we stand, in terms of infrastructure etc, mid table league 1 is the very best we can sustain.
We need to get the training ground moving (would appear we are moving as quickly as we can with this), get an ideal of the stadium regeneration (again, moving along nicely and would expect to hear something in terms of a more concrete plan before xmas), add another 1 or 2 quality players to compliment the talented bunch we have and then the most important one of them all... KEEP DC!!!!!! He is the very reason we are now back at the level this club should be and not flirting with relegation from the league as we were for so so many years over the last decade and a half.
We MUST remember what that man has achieved here and we must stop with the "I have lost faith in his ability to do this and that" posts!
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Aug 18, 2017 12:10:23 GMT
Ripped off? Have you seen, heard, how much wages players are demanding these days, even in L1? Example. Including agent fees, signing on fees, insurance, and wages, how much do you think it cost us to get Sweeney in the squad? The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees. Surely Searcombe and Nichols alone would have commanded fees around this mark between them?? Certainly seems about right to me.
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 12:13:16 GMT
Ripped off? Have you seen, heard, how much wages players are demanding these days, even in L1? Example. Including agent fees, signing on fees, insurance, and wages, how much do you think it cost us to get Sweeney in the squad? The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees. Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts.
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Post by Marshy on Aug 18, 2017 12:16:10 GMT
The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees. Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. Plus there's even less money in the coffers now as you take your own tinies into home games. : cough cough:
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Post by pirate on Aug 18, 2017 12:20:04 GMT
I don't know where you have got £650k from, but having thought about this recently, I highly doubt that figure. If we have spent that amount then we have been ripped off and could've spent it more wisely. I don't claim the fees to be 100% accurate and just a guess but Burn £100k, Parts £100k, Sercombe £150k, Nichols £300k. Ripped off or not we spent it.
Fair enough, I completely forgot about Partington and Burn. Easily done. Could've definitely got better for that sort of money IMHO.
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 12:21:20 GMT
Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. Plus there's even less money in the coffers now as you take your own tinies into home games. : cough cough: Hey, that's not rig....yea ok. Dammit!
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 12:22:09 GMT
I don't claim the fees to be 100% accurate and just a guess but Burn £100k, Parts £100k, Sercombe £150k, Nichols £300k. Ripped off or not we spent it.
Fair enough, I completely forgot about Partington and Burn. Easily done. Could've definitely got better for that sort of money IMHO. That's really easy to say.
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Post by pirate on Aug 18, 2017 12:22:57 GMT
The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees. Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. We also allegedly made 300k from the Chelsea match last season and released about 10 players this summer, freeing up money for the budget.
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Post by abbeygas on Aug 18, 2017 12:23:52 GMT
I don't claim the fees to be 100% accurate and just a guess but Burn £100k, Parts £100k, Sercombe £150k, Nichols £300k. Ripped off or not we spent it.
Fair enough, I completely forgot about Partington and Burn. Easily done. Could've definitely got better for that sort of money IMHO. Yeah easily done Pirate. I don't think a lot of gasheads would even know what they look like!
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 12:24:37 GMT
Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. We also allegedly made 300k from the Chelsea match alast season and released about 10 players this summer, freeing up money for the budget. You'd be surprised at how quick £300k gets eaten up at a football club.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 12:26:44 GMT
Fair enough, I completely forgot about Partington and Burn. Easily done. Could've definitely got better for that sort of money IMHO. That's really easy to say.
Neither can get a look in at the moment, I'd say that was money not well spent
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Post by abbeygas on Aug 18, 2017 12:27:18 GMT
Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. We also allegedly made 300k from the Chelsea match last season and released about 10 players this summer, freeing up money for the budget. Every other club in the country released a load of players. Stop digging ffs!
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2017 12:30:35 GMT
That's really easy to say.
Neither can get a look in at the moment, I'd say that was money not well spent
2 games.
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Post by gasbath on Aug 18, 2017 12:32:12 GMT
The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees. Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. Don't quite agree with that surly that's also paid for from letting Easter/Montano/Hartley/mcCrystal etc leave
have we brought in more than we have let go I'm not sure we have
may be quality over quantity
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 18, 2017 12:33:41 GMT
The £650k figure was in regards to transfer fees. Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. Where's this nonsense coming from? DC would have a reasonable wage budget even if we hadn't sold MT & played the Chelsea game, those two were additional incomes last season to add to a top 7(?) attendance income plus a club losing £1 - 2m a year on top. Our turnover/losses seems to compare to a top 6 or 8 side but our 1st team playing squad seems to compare to a top 10/12 side.
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Post by pirate on Aug 18, 2017 12:37:17 GMT
Fair enough but then think about how much it costs us to have Smith, Slocombe, Sercombe, Telford, Sweeney on our books. All for a 300k return on Taylor? Then think about what we must have offered DC to sign a 5 year deal. Where's all this coming from? It sure as hell isn't from fortnightly gate receipts. Don't quite agree with that surly that's also paid for from letting Easter/Montano/Hartley/mcCrystal etc leave
have we brought in more than we have let go I'm not sure we have
may be quality over quantity
Tell that to abbeygas. Lol.
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