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Post by peterparker on Sept 14, 2017 7:03:49 GMT
This other consortium is a bit like the Yeti or the loch ness monster. Schroedingers consortium
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Post by peterparker on Sept 14, 2017 7:59:23 GMT
Until someone else shows their face/hand, than the Al-Qadis are the only owners we have, just like Nick Higgs was before the AQs came along.
Lets assume there is another consortium and they some how take over. How long are they give to sort UWE or sort The Mem. If they are proper people they are going to want to revisit everything just as the Al-Qadis have done
All i know is were voing nowhere under Nick Higgs and his pot of money was foing to run low/dry with a Wonga style loan to repay.
Maybe we are going nowhere under Wael and the family, but i am sure we are giving ourselves a better chance than we had previously
If all else fails, perhaps we can blame Nick Higgs for selling to the wrong people
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 8:24:31 GMT
Give it up please. We are not going anywhere. There will not be a major rebuild of the Mem, just a bit of tarting up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 18:07:37 GMT
A new Mem will be built within five years. In stages. The centenary stand will be demolished one summer and temporary seating of the tent nature will be put ontop of the east terrace thus ensuring the minimum seating levels are maintained. The will give extra space to construct a new main stand in the carpark area.probably 7000 capacity + boxes + changing rooms. This will probably take a season in the summer the east terrace and north terrace west stand and clubhouse will be demolished the pitch will be moved into its new position. Building will then proceed round from the south east corner around the pitch until the stadium is completed .With temporary stands filling the voids to keep capacity above the 10,000 mark as much as possible.With the final stadium being a 22,000 capacity with boxes. As for the financing...not my problem somebody else has said they will sort that so let them.
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 14, 2017 18:20:49 GMT
Then we can watch Lord Lucan riding Sheargar around the car Park!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 16, 2017 10:55:51 GMT
This is the stand for the Mem when under development ! Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 12:33:29 GMT
This is the stand for the Mem when under development ! this is how Leicester tigers kept their main stand whilst building a 10,000 capacity replacement.The dark building on the right was the old main stand. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 13:07:35 GMT
This is the stand for the Mem when under development ! this is how Leicester tigers kept their main stand whilst building a 10,000 capacity replacement.The dark building on the right was the old main stand. Didn't Liverpool do the same last season?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 13:14:41 GMT
this is how Leicester tigers kept their main stand whilst building a 10,000 capacity replacement.The dark building on the right was the old main stand. Didn't Liverpool do the same last season? Once the rear structure and main roof structure was built the old stand was demolished and the new seating put in over the summer break. Attachments:
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Post by gasincider on Sept 16, 2017 22:46:19 GMT
If people insist on believing the garbage being dished out, then mushrooms have to be the flavour of the month. We have had this for over 40 years, longer than some of you have lived. Don't you ever learn? Once things don't run to plan the excuses start. If anyone thinks that F/H or L/H was the issue you are dreaming. All that would mean was that we would have had to find an additional £10-£20m to complete the deal. We couldn't even get the funding for the development. Wake up and smell the mushroom feed. It's obvious that if there ever was funding, it sure as hell isnt there now. More to the point, it isn't there to redevelop the Mem either. Without new owners, we won't go anywhere. It's all make believe. How do you know a new consortium can generate more funding than the current owners?? Like everyone else you are guessing. No one knows how much money Wael and his family have, but what is not in doubt, is they have contacts all over the world. If needed I'm sure they could bring others in at the right time. Wael has worked close with Fifa and they have businesses and contacts all over the world, some with mega money. But this so called consortium will be better for us?? How can they even say they will build Uwe, without knowing the terms? There is a confidentiality agreement in place, Wael and co did not know the terms until after the take over, they said they would build it, but then it's not viable. So what happens if a new consortium agrees after looking at the terms and trying to negotiate with Uwe?? We have a president who is investigating in youth development, improving our coaching set up, improving our training facilities etc, but it's still not good enough. Yes the ground is the most important thing, but things like that take time. Daniel, all I have said is a consortium/group, call it what you will are interested in us. Nothing else. I don't know what they can offer in any way, shape or form. Don't know where you get the rest from, but not me. What I have said, is that if the AQ's can't offer a better future, then we need new owners who can. Whether the latest grouping can do that for us I don't know. But it seems our current owners cannot.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 16, 2017 22:48:18 GMT
A new Mem will be built within five years. In stages. The centenary stand will be demolished one summer and temporary seating of the tent nature will be put ontop of the east terrace thus ensuring the minimum seating levels are maintained. The will give extra space to construct a new main stand in the carpark area.probably 7000 capacity + boxes + changing rooms. This will probably take a season in the summer the east terrace and north terrace west stand and clubhouse will be demolished the pitch will be moved into its new position. Building will then proceed round from the south east corner around the pitch until the stadium is completed .With temporary stands filling the voids to keep capacity above the 10,000 mark as much as possible.With the final stadium being a 22,000 capacity with boxes. As for the financing...not my problem somebody else has said they will sort that so let them. So why demolish the centenary stand. Build the new one behind it and then demolish the old one. Already planned for last time around. It just won't happen
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Post by peterparker on Sept 17, 2017 8:40:06 GMT
How do you know a new consortium can generate more funding than the current owners?? Like everyone else you are guessing. No one knows how much money Wael and his family have, but what is not in doubt, is they have contacts all over the world. If needed I'm sure they could bring others in at the right time. Wael has worked close with Fifa and they have businesses and contacts all over the world, some with mega money. But this so called consortium will be better for us?? How can they even say they will build Uwe, without knowing the terms? There is a confidentiality agreement in place, Wael and co did not know the terms until after the take over, they said they would build it, but then it's not viable. So what happens if a new consortium agrees after looking at the terms and trying to negotiate with Uwe?? We have a president who is investigating in youth development, improving our coaching set up, improving our training facilities etc, but it's still not good enough. Yes the ground is the most important thing, but things like that take time. Daniel, all I have said is a consortium/group, call it what you will are interested in us. Nothing else. I don't know what they can offer in any way, shape or form. Don't know where you get the rest from, but not me. What I have said, is that if the AQ's can't offer a better future, then we need new owners who can. Whether the latest grouping can do that for us I don't know. But it seems our current owners .Based on what exactly?
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Post by knowall on Sept 17, 2017 9:37:35 GMT
Daniel, all I have said is a consortium/group, call it what you will are interested in us. Nothing else. I don't know what they can offer in any way, shape or form. Don't know where you get the rest from, but not me. What I have said, is that if the AQ's can't offer a better future, then we need new owners who can. Whether the latest grouping can do that for us I don't know. But it seems our current owners .Based on what exactly? obviously based on bias and the love of all things Higgs
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Post by gaslife on Sept 17, 2017 9:52:56 GMT
A new Mem will be built within five years. In stages. The centenary stand will be demolished one summer and temporary seating of the tent nature will be put ontop of the east terrace thus ensuring the minimum seating levels are maintained. The will give extra space to construct a new main stand in the carpark area.probably 7000 capacity + boxes + changing rooms. This will probably take a season in the summer the east terrace and north terrace west stand and clubhouse will be demolished the pitch will be moved into its new position. Building will then proceed round from the south east corner around the pitch until the stadium is completed .With temporary stands filling the voids to keep capacity above the 10,000 mark as much as possible.With the final stadium being a 22,000 capacity with boxes. As for the financing...not my problem somebody else has said they will sort that so let them. It seems incredible that a football club that has built nothing in 50 years would embark on such a fantastical, unfeasible and expensive project - especially after rejecting the gift of a superb greenfield site with planning permission that makes good financial and logistical sense.
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Post by LJG on Sept 17, 2017 10:05:58 GMT
How do you know a new consortium can generate more funding than the current owners?? Like everyone else you are guessing. No one knows how much money Wael and his family have, but what is not in doubt, is they have contacts all over the world. If needed I'm sure they could bring others in at the right time. Wael has worked close with Fifa and they have businesses and contacts all over the world, some with mega money. But this so called consortium will be better for us?? How can they even say they will build Uwe, without knowing the terms? There is a confidentiality agreement in place, Wael and co did not know the terms until after the take over, they said they would build it, but then it's not viable. So what happens if a new consortium agrees after looking at the terms and trying to negotiate with Uwe?? We have a president who is investigating in youth development, improving our coaching set up, improving our training facilities etc, but it's still not good enough. Yes the ground is the most important thing, but things like that take time. Daniel, all I have said is a consortium/group, call it what you will are interested in us. Nothing else. I don't know what they can offer in any way, shape or form. Don't know where you get the rest from, but not me. What I have said, is that if the AQ's can't offer a better future, then we need new owners who can. Whether the latest grouping can do that for us I don't know. But it seems our current owners cannot. You've talked so much ... what do you call it? Mushroom feed? ... you don't even know what you've said. Believe it or not, the main talking point in the corridors of power on Saturday was that there are two potential suitors for our football club that have been made known to our owners. I know a little of one of them, but absolutely nothing of the other. But the one I know a little of are serious players, and they would be looking to continue with the UWE development, as they don't believe the Mem is viable. The most salient point in the conversation was the figure quoted to buy our football club was mentioned. So there is no doubt that whilst the offer was made correctly and privately to our owners, it has been relayed to others who are aware of much detail. From my point of view, I hope that if our owners are not to pursue the UWE deal, then subject to no ridiculous stipulations from the UWE, this is treated seriously. This football club is to precious to too many of us to resign itself to forever being a lower league club, which I feel is what will happen unless we build a purpose built stadium. And before certain individuals come out of the woodwork and say here he goes again, I would remind you that whilst I also broke news of a consortium last time, and got slagged off for being wrong, I wasn't wrong, it's just that the Al Qadis offer was completed before the people I was aware of were ready to go. This is not the case this time. Interesting times, and I just hope we get what we need before I go to the Tote End in the sky.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 22:29:57 GMT
A new Mem will be built within five years. In stages. The centenary stand will be demolished one summer and temporary seating of the tent nature will be put ontop of the east terrace thus ensuring the minimum seating levels are maintained. The will give extra space to construct a new main stand in the carpark area.probably 7000 capacity + boxes + changing rooms. This will probably take a season in the summer the east terrace and north terrace west stand and clubhouse will be demolished the pitch will be moved into its new position. Building will then proceed round from the south east corner around the pitch until the stadium is completed .With temporary stands filling the voids to keep capacity above the 10,000 mark as much as possible.With the final stadium being a 22,000 capacity with boxes. As for the financing...not my problem somebody else has said they will sort that so let them. It seems incredible that a football club that has built nothing in 50 years would embark on such a fantastical, unfeasible and expensive project - especially after rejecting the gift of a superb greenfield site with planning permission that makes good financial and logistical sense. You will have to tell us the deals and costs for both projects as you appear to know.
If Leicester Tigers rugby club can do it then so can BRFC. I suggest you come to terms with the fact the previous board couldn't deliver the UWE stadium. Then sold the club to the best buyers available.
What we have is what we have...and certainly not the stingiest board the club has ever had by a long shot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 22:31:43 GMT
A new Mem will be built within five years. In stages. The centenary stand will be demolished one summer and temporary seating of the tent nature will be put ontop of the east terrace thus ensuring the minimum seating levels are maintained. The will give extra space to construct a new main stand in the carpark area.probably 7000 capacity + boxes + changing rooms. This will probably take a season in the summer the east terrace and north terrace west stand and clubhouse will be demolished the pitch will be moved into its new position. Building will then proceed round from the south east corner around the pitch until the stadium is completed .With temporary stands filling the voids to keep capacity above the 10,000 mark as much as possible.With the final stadium being a 22,000 capacity with boxes. As for the financing...not my problem somebody else has said they will sort that so let them. So why demolish the centenary stand. Build the new one behind it and then demolish the old one. Already planned for last time around. It just won't happen To allow for more space or a bigger stand perhaps (?) It will happen.
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Post by syg on Sept 17, 2017 22:42:01 GMT
Can someone explain to me why the club can't issue a statement as to why uwe wasn't feasible?
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Post by gasincider on Sept 17, 2017 23:09:17 GMT
Daniel, all I have said is a consortium/group, call it what you will are interested in us. Nothing else. I don't know what they can offer in any way, shape or form. Don't know where you get the rest from, but not me. What I have said, is that if the AQ's can't offer a better future, then we need new owners who can. Whether the latest grouping can do that for us I don't know. But it seems our current owners cannot. You've talked so much ... what do you call it? Mushroom feed? ... you don't even know what you've said. Believe it or not, the main talking point in the corridors of power on Saturday was that there are two potential suitors for our football club that have been made known to our owners. I know a little of one of them, but absolutely nothing of the other. But the one I know a little of are serious players, and they would be looking to continue with the UWE development, as they don't believe the Mem is viable. The most salient point in the conversation was the figure quoted to buy our football club was mentioned. So there is no doubt that whilst the offer was made correctly and privately to our owners, it has been relayed to others who are aware of much detail. From my point of view, I hope that if our owners are not to pursue the UWE deal, then subject to no ridiculous stipulations from the UWE, this is treated seriously. This football club is to precious to too many of us to resign itself to forever being a lower league club, which I feel is what will happen unless we build a purpose built stadium. And before certain individuals come out of the woodwork and say here he goes again, I would remind you that whilst I also broke news of a consortium last time, and got slagged off for being wrong, I wasn't wrong, it's just that the Al Qadis offer was completed before the people I was aware of were ready to go. This is not the case this time. Interesting times, and I just hope we get what we need before I go to the Tote End in the sky. As I said, I know of no details. They will obviously want to continue with the UWE if it's feasible. There is no other reason to buy us, and this was mentioned. As we stand, I don't see anyone being interested. But until any prospective buyer talks to the UWE, I don't see any progress. Unlike the AQ's, they will thoroughly vet the UWE requirements, or will fall foul of their requirements. I still can't believe why the AQ's didn't check out what NH told them about it. A value was also mentioned. Whether it is an accurate figure or not, I have no idea. But it was above the figures quoted previously. By the way, on the night Ali Durden did his bit on the AQ takeover, he also mentioned that another consortium had been looking to buy us. But as I have said before, believe it or don't. I don't give a monkeys. Keep up the good work LJG.
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 18, 2017 17:59:21 GMT
Gonna take bloody years what a joke on about false hope and dreams of being a proper club with a nice new stadium scuppered!
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