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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 22:53:44 GMT
I get what the op is saying. Ive made up my own mind about the owners and i simply dont believe they will deliver a] stadium b]top training ground c] cat 2 academy d] top 6 budget. Ive washed my hands of the owners full stop but no disrespect to all the others who havnt. I love the manager and the team hes built despite the fact they are now at their level and cant progress. From now on im going to be enthusiastically supporting the teams attempts to over achieve at this level without the burden of expecting anything from the owners. In other words nothing has changed from how its always been. I reckon if rotherham,mk dons,blackburn or charlton offered dc the managers job and paid the compensation he would go,not to mention almost any championship team. God you are an optimistic bugger ! Thanks i am,i went to braintree with my mate and told him we would be fine even after we lost there and i predicted promotion from league 2 before the season started. I dreamed of better things when the owners took over,it seemed unbelievable and well it was im afraid. After the UWE collapsed i argued against the "fake sheik" threads but not anymore. I just hope we still exist as a league1 or 2 club after all this.
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 23, 2017 5:54:53 GMT
Feel a bit ashamed to say but this season i have just felt so flat about the club. After the whole UWE thing and lack of having a real pop at league 1 and the slow start has just left me feeing a bit meh !! Maybe its just one of those things after a few interesting seasons but just wondered if anyone else admits to feeling the same ? Maybe its the lack of alcohol in my life. You can't use meh that's a woman's word for when they are menstruating cop of feel of your underguts and ensure they haven't dropped off if they have, zip em back on and get behind the boys tomorrow UTG Lol
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 23, 2017 5:56:53 GMT
Feel a bit ashamed to say but this season i have just felt so flat about the club. After the whole UWE thing and lack of having a real pop at league 1 and the slow start has just left me feeing a bit meh !! Maybe its just one of those things after a few interesting seasons but just wondered if anyone else admits to feeling the same ? Maybe its the lack of alcohol in my life. Completely agree. And I think some of the players do too by the looks of it. One or two top signings and something other than tarting up our shithole and it would have been different. Flat is a very good word to describe the club right now. Perhaps we have hit our wall of what we can achieve now that the owners have changed their minds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 6:07:34 GMT
If you ask me the owners have never had any intentions for a new ground etc and bought the club for other reasons anyway will see
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 6:08:02 GMT
God you are an optimistic bugger ! Thanks i am,i went to braintree with my mate and told him we would be fine even after we lost there and i predicted promotion from league 2 before the season started. I dreamed of better things when the owners took over,it seemed unbelievable and well it was im afraid. After the UWE collapsed i argued against the "fake sheik" threads but not anymore. I just hope we still exist as a league1 or 2 club after all this. I understand where you're coming from - I share your sentiments. There are guys on here and in the much wider fan base that go right back to the Eastville days who will probably never see the club, that has been a life sentence for them playing in a decent stadium - many supporting the club for over 50/60 years. The UWE saga which dragged on for well over six years at least gave us 'old codgers' and I suggest most of the fan base tangible hope whether we believed it or not that maybe, just maybe something was going to happen and our club would be making a big leap forward and competing on a level playing field with most other clubs at our level. It gave us something to 'hook into', talk about, dream about and look forward to but that was all taken away - almost in an instant with no real explanation as to the reasons why. Decisions that were made by individuals that have been 'supporters' of our club for the best part of just eighteen months - and they took the dream away. The younger supporters may well not understand the huge (and I mean huge) impact this has had and will have on the club for many years to come and some will struggle to understand at the moment why there is cynicism and mistrust that some of us have with our new owners. As individuals I'm sure they are nice guys - but they will do want they want to do over which we have no control - I will keep wearing my Rovers shirt and supporting my team in the best way I can - buying my season ticket - standing - sometimes getting have drowned - in a dilapidated joke of a 'stadium' which should be condemned as not fit for purpose. Many will argue that i should get behind the new board - sadly until they start delivering on their promises and engaging with the fans that will not happen - they took my dream away - I'm finding it difficult at the moment to forgive them.
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Post by Congas on Sept 23, 2017 6:35:14 GMT
A slow start. What else is new?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 7:21:12 GMT
Thanks i am,i went to braintree with my mate and told him we would be fine even after we lost there and i predicted promotion from league 2 before the season started. I dreamed of better things when the owners took over,it seemed unbelievable and well it was im afraid. After the UWE collapsed i argued against the "fake sheik" threads but not anymore. I just hope we still exist as a league1 or 2 club after all this. I understand where you're coming from - I share your sentiments. There are guys on here and in the much wider fan base that go right back to the Eastville days who will probably never see the club, that has been a life sentence for them playing in a decent stadium - many supporting the club for over 50/60 years. The UWE saga which dragged on for well over six years at least gave us 'old codgers' and I suggest most of the fan base tangible hope whether we believed it or not that maybe, just maybe something was going to happen and our club would be making a big leap forward and competing on a level playing field with most other clubs at our level. It gave us something to 'hook into', talk about, dream about and look forward to but that was all taken away - almost in an instant with no real explanation as to the reasons why. Decisions that were made by individuals that have been 'supporters' of our club for the best part of just eighteen months - and they took the dream away. The younger supporters may well not understand the huge (and I mean huge) impact this has had and will have on the club for many years to come and some will struggle to understand at the moment why there is cynicism and mistrust that some of us have with our new owners. As individuals I'm sure they are nice guys - but they will do want they want to do over which we have no control - I will keep wearing my Rovers shirt and supporting my team in the best way I can - buying my season ticket - standing - sometimes getting have drowned - in a dilapidated joke of a 'stadium' which should be condemned as not fit for purpose. Many will argue that i should get behind the new board - sadly until they start delivering on their promises and engaging with the fans that will not happen - they took my dream away - I'm finding it difficult at the moment to forgive them. As one of the supporters who have been supporting the club for over sixty years could not agree with you more. An excellent post that sums my mood up nicely and no doubt many others. UTG!
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Post by Gasshole on Sept 23, 2017 8:07:57 GMT
I find it hard to get out of bed in the morning / afternoon. Especially since some lady garden had the fkin audacity to dislike one of my posts. Nice work Hp
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:19:50 GMT
The squad kept two clean sheets this season so far. Both away Both at championship clubs It shows when the right mentality and application is used the squad can compete easily at the top of league one. The problem I suspect is in approaching league one games like Rovers should just win them if they play attacking football. The old phrase of "you have to earn the right to play good football" needs application. There is no need to feel miserable. I know we have just passed into the darker hours of the year so people do feel more gloomy anyway ,but come on. Pull yourselves together. I thought Rovers were well known for backs to the wall mentality for beating adversity. Its when the gloom mongers take over that the club nose dives. Its when the fans pull together things happen. UWE is dead....so what. I remember going to the Madjeski stadium and thinking hmm this looks good and the facilities are ok...but I still enjoyed the team from the crappy Mem stuffing Reading 6-0 much more. Its who you are not what you wear.
So some kids don't get the fancy Christmas present they wanted...life goes on ,they learn to enjoy the toys they do have.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 23, 2017 8:24:14 GMT
Thanks i am,i went to braintree with my mate and told him we would be fine even after we lost there and i predicted promotion from league 2 before the season started. I dreamed of better things when the owners took over,it seemed unbelievable and well it was im afraid. After the UWE collapsed i argued against the "fake sheik" threads but not anymore. I just hope we still exist as a league1 or 2 club after all this. I understand where you're coming from - I share your sentiments. There are guys on here and in the much wider fan base that go right back to the Eastville days who will probably never see the club, that has been a life sentence for them playing in a decent stadium - many supporting the club for over 50/60 years. The UWE saga which dragged on for well over six years at least gave us 'old codgers' and I suggest most of the fan base tangible hope whether we believed it or not that maybe, just maybe something was going to happen and our club would be making a big leap forward and competing on a level playing field with most other clubs at our level. It gave us something to 'hook into', talk about, dream about and look forward to but that was all taken away - almost in an instant with no real explanation as to the reasons why. Decisions that were made by individuals that have been 'supporters' of our club for the best part of just eighteen months - and they took the dream away. The younger supporters may well not understand the huge (and I mean huge) impact this has had and will have on the club for many years to come and some will struggle to understand at the moment why there is cynicism and mistrust that some of us have with our new owners. As individuals I'm sure they are nice guys - but they will do want they want to do over which we have no control - I will keep wearing my Rovers shirt and supporting my team in the best way I can - buying my season ticket - standing - sometimes getting have drowned - in a dilapidated joke of a 'stadium' which should be condemned as not fit for purpose. Many will argue that i should get behind the new board - sadly until they start delivering on their promises and engaging with the fans that will not happen - they took my dream away - I'm finding it difficult at the moment to forgive them. Well done newblue, this is pretty much my feeling. Whatever feelings are for the owners in whichever decade I will always support the team, watch them, travel to see them and sometimes get back here at 1.00/2.00 in the morning and will still do that. I still like the owners but their silence over the past two months is now becoming a bit disrespectful to the fans who have backed them when the going was good. I have always maintained support for the owners saying that if the UWE wasnt right for the club then fair enough, they are the owners and if it's not right then we have to pull out. We don't want to become a situation like Coventry or even Oxford with their grounds. My expectation was that the owners would have a plan B and that we could look forward to a statement outlining their "new" vision for the club. If that vision is a new Mem then we need to see a statement very, very soon with more detail and more firm plans for the future. At the moment communication seems quite poor with a few short statements on the website and a bit of dripfeed elsewhere. I think the owners have done a pretty decent job up to this point but it appears something has happened that we won't know about regarding the UWE due to confidentiality clauses which I understand even if I don't like it. So we know very little fact about the issue. But what we do know could be eased and explained by some information issued by the owners regarding the future but as I've said before I live in hope more than expectation! As one of your older fans, I'm not sure I'll ever see a new stadium. When we were at Eastville I would stand on the terraces at the Tote and think this place is a bit of a dump but it was our dump and most other grounds were dumps as well. Over the past 50 years many clubs, if not most, have upgraded their grounds in some way, complete refurbishment or new ground. Us, we haven't and I can still stand wherever in the ground and think this place is a dump and it's our dump. We haven't changed and the rest of football have moved on. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over that because I can't miss anything I've never had and I will just go on supporting the team. To answer the op, I am just as enthusiastic about the team but not so about the future, so in other words I've returned to the default position of a lot of gasheads I suspect! Always UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:27:09 GMT
I understand where you're coming from - I share your sentiments. There are guys on here and in the much wider fan base that go right back to the Eastville days who will probably never see the club, that has been a life sentence for them playing in a decent stadium - many supporting the club for over 50/60 years. The UWE saga which dragged on for well over six years at least gave us 'old codgers' and I suggest most of the fan base tangible hope whether we believed it or not that maybe, just maybe something was going to happen and our club would be making a big leap forward and competing on a level playing field with most other clubs at our level. It gave us something to 'hook into', talk about, dream about and look forward to but that was all taken away - almost in an instant with no real explanation as to the reasons why. Decisions that were made by individuals that have been 'supporters' of our club for the best part of just eighteen months - and they took the dream away. The younger supporters may well not understand the huge (and I mean huge) impact this has had and will have on the club for many years to come and some will struggle to understand at the moment why there is cynicism and mistrust that some of us have with our new owners. As individuals I'm sure they are nice guys - but they will do want they want to do over which we have no control - I will keep wearing my Rovers shirt and supporting my team in the best way I can - buying my season ticket - standing - sometimes getting have drowned - in a dilapidated joke of a 'stadium' which should be condemned as not fit for purpose. Many will argue that i should get behind the new board - sadly until they start delivering on their promises and engaging with the fans that will not happen - they took my dream away - I'm finding it difficult at the moment to forgive them. Well done newblue, this is pretty much my feeling. Whatever feelings are for the owners in whichever decade I will always support the team, watch them, travel to see them and sometimes get back here at 1.00/2.00 in the morning and will still do that. I still like the owners but their silence over the past two months is now becoming a bit disrespectful to the fans who have backed them when the going was good. I have always maintained support for the owners saying that if the UWE wasnt right for the club then fair enough, they are the owners and if it's not right then we have to pull out. We don't want to become a situation like Coventry or even Oxford with their grounds. My expectation was that the owners would have a plan B and that we could look forward to a statement outlining their "new" vision for the club. If that vision is a new Mem then we need to see a statement very, very soon with more detail and more firm plans for the future. At the moment communication seems quite poor with a few short statements on the website and a bit of dripfeed elsewhere. I think the owners have done a pretty decent job up to this point but it appears something has happened that we won't know about regarding the UWE due to confidentiality clauses which I understand even if I don't like it. So we know very little fact about the issue. But what we do know could be eased and explained by some information issued by the owners regarding the future but as I've said before I live in hope more than expectation! As one of your older fans, I'm not sure I'll ever see a new stadium. When we were at Eastville I would stand on the terraces at the Tote and think this place is a bit of a dump but it was our dump and most other grounds were dumps as well. Over the past 50 years many clubs, if not most, have upgraded their grounds in some way, complete refurbishment or new ground. Us, we haven't and I can still stand wherever in the ground and think this place is a dump and it's our dump. We haven't changed and the rest of football have moved on. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over that because I can't miss anything I've never had and I will just go on supporting the team. To answer the op, I am just as enthusiastic about the team but not so about the future, so in other words I've returned to the default position of a lot of gasheads I suspect! Always UTG! IMO THEY HAVE other plans for their own financial gain they are money oriented BANKERS
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:37:11 GMT
IMO they have other plans for their own financial gain they are money oriented BANKERS like all bankers!
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Post by justin blue on Sept 23, 2017 8:46:11 GMT
The problem was that we were all too quick to believe that these guys were going to take us to a bright new future. Somehow for me the gloss started coming off when our chairman denied us a tour bus when we got promoted. We all bought into the evolution nonsense in the absence of firm commitment. I'd love to be be proved wrong, but I think these guys have lost the plot if there ever was one in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:53:43 GMT
The problem was that we were all too quick to believe that these guys were going to take us to a bright new future. Somehow for me the gloss started coming off when our chairman denied us a tour bus when we got promoted. We were all bought into the evolution nonsense in the absence of firm commitment. I'd love to be be proved wrong, but I think these guys have lost the plot if there ever was one in the first place. Yeah and we'll loved all the attention
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 23, 2017 9:18:59 GMT
The problem was that we were all too quick to believe that these guys were going to take us to a bright new future. Somehow for me the gloss started coming off when our chairman denied us a tour bus when we got promoted. We all bought into the evolution nonsense in the absence of firm commitment. I'd love to be be proved wrong, but I think these guys have lost the plot if there ever was one in the first place. i know what you mean but let's be honest, of course we believed in a brighter future, who wouldn't? And if we ever get other "new" owners who come in and at a press conference say all the right things we would again. Anyone would, that it's not looking so rosy now doesn't necessarily mean we were wrong to be optimistic. Sometimes hope is all we've ever had! And, keeping things in perspective, it still might be ok. If we knew three years ago what we know now I suspect we would have been very happy! But the owners have got to come out with some stuff soon though to allay fears. UTG!
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Post by justin blue on Sept 23, 2017 10:04:48 GMT
The problem was that we were all too quick to believe that these guys were going to take us to a bright new future. Somehow for me the gloss started coming off when our chairman denied us a tour bus when we got promoted. We all bought into the evolution nonsense in the absence of firm commitment. I'd love to be be proved wrong, but I think these guys have lost the plot if there ever was one in the first place. i know what you mean but let's be honest, of course we believed in a brighter future, who wouldn't? And if we ever get other "new" owners who come in and at a press conference say all the right things we would again. Anyone would, that it's not looking so rosy now doesn't necessarily mean we were wrong to be optimistic. Sometimes hope is all we've ever had! And, keeping things in perspective, it still might be ok. If we knew three years ago what we know now I suspect we would have been very happy! But the owners have got to come out with some stuff soon though to allay fears. UTG! We wanted to believe because we were desperate and we did not ask too many questions for the same reason. We are still desperate which is why many don't want to rock the boat imo. End of the day as I said earlier all we can do now is get behind the lads. UTG
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 23, 2017 10:23:50 GMT
The squad kept two clean sheets this season so far. Both away Both at championship clubs It shows when the right mentality and application is used the squad can compete easily at the top of league one. The problem I suspect is in approaching league one games like Rovers should just win them if they play attacking football. The old phrase of "you have to earn the right to play good football" needs application. There is no need to feel miserable. I know we have just passed into the darker hours of the year so people do feel more gloomy anyway ,but come on. Pull yourselves together. I thought Rovers were well known for backs to the wall mentality for beating adversity. Its when the gloom mongers take over that the club nose dives. Its when the fans pull together things happen. UWE is dead....so what. I remember going to the Madjeski stadium and thinking hmm this looks good and the facilities are ok...but I still enjoyed the team from the crappy Mem stuffing Reading 6-0 much more. Its who you are not what you wear. So some kids don't get the fancy Christmas present they wanted...life goes on ,they learn to enjoy the toys they do have. The New Mem will happen. Great post. I am very open minded to different outlooks. There are only two posters on this site who's outlook is so unremittingly bleak that I would question whether they should be supporting our club, for their own good really! But then when I think about it a bit more, their outlook might be negative on just about every aspect of the club, but what is the reason they keep posting? It is because every football fan of a club is united by one thing and that is hope. This is obviously factored against our own vastly different expectations, but that hope that we all have for our club to meet those expectations can be channelled into a very beautiful thing, at times. That's why hearing the Gas faithful belting out Goodnight Irene still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 23, 2017 10:28:40 GMT
i know what you mean but let's be honest, of course we believed in a brighter future, who wouldn't? And if we ever get other "new" owners who come in and at a press conference say all the right things we would again. Anyone would, that it's not looking so rosy now doesn't necessarily mean we were wrong to be optimistic. Sometimes hope is all we've ever had! And, keeping things in perspective, it still might be ok. If we knew three years ago what we know now I suspect we would have been very happy! But the owners have got to come out with some stuff soon though to allay fears. UTG! We wanted to believe because we were desperate and we did not ask too many questions for the same reason. We are still desperate which is why many don't want to rock the boat imo. End of the day as I said earlier all we can do now is get behind the lads. UTG Anyone that asked questions got rounded up and shot on here. I've been in the believe it when I see it camp for years. I also think pulling out of the UWE deal was probably the right thing to do. What I don't understand is how an unviable project suddenly becomes viable. Nor what's going on at the for a training ground. Or how a top six budget sees us having a weaker squad at least 2 players short, or how it can be alleged that bills are going unpaid. On top of which Communication is still poor and our fans directors appear to have been silenced. Still, the suggestion box has got the Balti pies back.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 23, 2017 10:29:43 GMT
The squad kept two clean sheets this season so far. Both away Both at championship clubs It shows when the right mentality and application is used the squad can compete easily at the top of league one. The problem I suspect is in approaching league one games like Rovers should just win them if they play attacking football. The old phrase of "you have to earn the right to play good football" needs application. There is no need to feel miserable. I know we have just passed into the darker hours of the year so people do feel more gloomy anyway ,but come on. Pull yourselves together. I thought Rovers were well known for backs to the wall mentality for beating adversity. Its when the gloom mongers take over that the club nose dives. Its when the fans pull together things happen. UWE is dead....so what. I remember going to the Madjeski stadium and thinking hmm this looks good and the facilities are ok...but I still enjoyed the team from the crappy Mem stuffing Reading 6-0 much more. Its who you are not what you wear. So some kids don't get the fancy Christmas present they wanted...life goes on ,they learn to enjoy the toys they do have. The New Mem will happen. Great post. I am very open minded to different outlooks. There are only two posters on this site who's outlook is so unremittingly bleak that I would question whether they should be supporting our club, for their own good really! But then when I think about it a bit more, their outlook might be negative on just about every aspect of the club, but what is the reason they keep posting? It is because every football fan of a club is united by one thing and that is hope. This is obviously factored against our own vastly different expectations, but that hope that we all have for our club to meet those expectations can be channelled into a very beautiful thing, at times. That's why hearing the Gas faithful belting out Goodnight Irene still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up I've given up on hope.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 23, 2017 11:16:17 GMT
Don't give up on hope Hugo, it's all we've got! UTG!
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