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Post by socrates on Sept 23, 2017 12:37:02 GMT
I've got way more faith that our new owners are moving the club in the right direction now than when Higgs owned it. We've managed to keep all our best players and our manager after a period of success, the first time we've done that in my 32 years supporting us. We've bought some land big enough to build a great training complex and are still looking at ways to build a stadium ( nothing's changed there so no better no worse). To the people saying that WAQ has taken away their dreams of moving to a better or bigger stadium all I can say is chasing dreams doesn't always end up well and the reality isn't always as great as the dream. As I said the other day the club has to do the right thing long term not give our older fans who want to see our club in a new stadium just for them if it's not a deal that suits the club. If UWE decided that they wanted twice the money once WAQ bought the club then he was right to refuse the deal, I wouldn't expect him to except it just to keep some desperate fans happy. As we start to run out of time in life we get more desperate to have the things we've always wanted and that's fair enough but grabbing at things that aren't right to chase that might be good for those people but what about the younger generations they will need a stable club with good income to support after the older generations have gone.
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Post by Quartermaster on Sept 23, 2017 13:09:36 GMT
An overdue first game of the season for me. I’m not as excited as I should be. The UWE has really knocked the wind out of the sails for me. Left feeling that anything positive on the ground front is 5yrs away minimum (and that’s with a smooth ride on the planning front and we know that won’t happen!) No great progress possible without the ground IMO. Flat is the word! That said, 3-0 this afternoon would help!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 13:14:32 GMT
Communication. From individuals or from the club they own ?
I would say the difference between having no idea who was in the youth/development teams except hearing the odd rumour on the terrace or the small snippet or two in a matchday programme or newspaper. Where as now we get introduced to the new players and even have live matches streamed and highlights shows
That is communication believe it or not and that is a billion times better than in the past.
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Post by socrates on Sept 23, 2017 21:01:33 GMT
Anyone feeling more motivated after today ? At the end of the day if Wael hadn't bought our club DC wouldn't be here and neither would most of our best players and it was them that got us another win today to keep us mid table in league 1. Dc has helped move this club forward along with his staff and the owners and that has motivated me as a supporter. Only got to think back to the crap we were served up as little as three years ago to see how far we've come and Wael has played an important part in that over the second half of those last three years. UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 24, 2017 0:01:15 GMT
I've got way more faith that our new owners are moving the club in the right direction now than when Higgs owned it. We've managed to keep all our best players and our manager after a period of success, the first time we've done that in my 32 years supporting us. We've bought some land big enough to build a great training complex and are still looking at ways to build a stadium ( nothing's changed there so no better no worse). To the people saying that WAQ has taken away their dreams of moving to a better or bigger stadium all I can say is chasing dreams doesn't always end up well and the reality isn't always as great as the dream. As I said the other day the club has to do the right thing long term not give our older fans who want to see our club in a new stadium just for them if it's not a deal that suits the club. If UWE decided that they wanted twice the money once WAQ bought the club then he was right to refuse the deal, I wouldn't expect him to except it just to keep some desperate fans happy. As we start to run out of time in life we get more desperate to have the things we've always wanted and that's fair enough but grabbing at things that aren't right to chase that might be good for those people but what about the younger generations they will need a stable club with good income to support after the older generations have gone. Good post socrates. I guess I have more hope than I have faith but I agree with much of what you've said. I also agree about the UWE, if it wasn't right then we pull out as we did. I guess my point was that knowing that the UWE was dead then the owners should be more proactive about a possible plan B and I do think that a statement outlining their ideas and vision is needed if only to stop the negativity that some have from growing. At the moment there has been a lot of dripfeeding of information, it would be good to have a clear idea in the form of a statement as to what the owners are aiming towards. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 5:59:03 GMT
I've got way more faith that our new owners are moving the club in the right direction now than when Higgs owned it. We've managed to keep all our best players and our manager after a period of success, the first time we've done that in my 32 years supporting us. We've bought some land big enough to build a great training complex and are still looking at ways to build a stadium ( nothing's changed there so no better no worse). To the people saying that WAQ has taken away their dreams of moving to a better or bigger stadium all I can say is chasing dreams doesn't always end up well and the reality isn't always as great as the dream. As I said the other day the club has to do the right thing long term not give our older fans who want to see our club in a new stadium just for them if it's not a deal that suits the club. If UWE decided that they wanted twice the money once WAQ bought the club then he was right to refuse the deal, I wouldn't expect him to except it just to keep some desperate fans happy. As we start to run out of time in life we get more desperate to have the things we've always wanted and that's fair enough but grabbing at things that aren't right to chase that might be good for those people but what about the younger generations they will need a stable club with good income to support after the older generations have gone. The fact is, do you know the real reasons why the owners pulled out of the negotiations? Like everyone else you know no more or no less - I could say they pulled out because they've just changed their mind - they don't see a long term investment spending huge amounts of money suiting their business model anymore - who knows its all speculation. All I know is that they've made a decision (arguably one of the biggest in the club's history - bar maybe just one) with no explanation. I don't think they would be bounded now by a confidentiality agreement - if they are why not just say so. Until they start demonstrating tangible long term real financial commitment to the club without (putting it too bluntly) 'polishing a turd' I wil remain sceptical. From virtually day one they were saying the Mem was never an option - a strong statement by astute businessmen at the time - now with their backs against the wall they are saying it is - why should I trust them?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 6:13:26 GMT
Feel a bit ashamed to say but this season i have just felt so flat about the club. After the whole UWE thing and lack of having a real pop at league 1 and the slow start has just left me feeing a bit meh !! Maybe its just one of those things after a few interesting seasons but just wondered if anyone else admits to feeling the same ? Maybe its the lack of alcohol in my life. [ Bizarre! Or maybe not..I was going to start a thread probably worded exactly the same yesterday. This definitely echoes how I feel at the moment. I was gonna start a poll to gauage how people currently feel. I guess it was always going to happen after two unbelievable seasons and I think now that the UWE has officially been sacked off it's a case of what direction are we actually going in, what are we looking to achieve. Doesn't seem to be evident atm and that leaves me feeling a bit apathetic.
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 24, 2017 6:19:36 GMT
DC amazes me in how year after year his team overperforms. There are also many games where you think “what on earth is he trying there” with the line up but he normally gets it right.
I agree that after a few years if excitement we face quite a few years of plodding around in mid table. Hopefully we will invest in scouting so we can see a few gems come through like in the 90’s.
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Post by gastronaut on Sept 24, 2017 6:43:03 GMT
Feel a bit ashamed to say but this season i have just felt so flat about the club. After the whole UWE thing and lack of having a real pop at league 1 and the slow start has just left me feeing a bit meh !! Maybe its just one of those things after a few interesting seasons but just wondered if anyone else admits to feeling the same ? Maybe its the lack of alcohol in my life. No - if you could bottle up the fear of the last game in league 2 when we got relegated, and every time you felt flat about the gas, take the lid off and have a long deep whiff; I bet you would feel a whole lot better about now. We are progressing and you can't expect the same level of achievement every year - if so we would be playing in the premiership next season!
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Post by devonblue on Sept 24, 2017 7:06:56 GMT
I have only recently started watching the Gas (with some old friends) and have to say I am really getting hooked. I like the fact that you can stand on terraces, love the banter of the fans, its friendly, the fans get behind the team.... UTG
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Post by bluestone on Sept 24, 2017 7:13:30 GMT
In answer to the OP:
No. I'm not struggling for motivation.
I wasn't struggling before Wolves and Blackpool and I'm not struggling now, in fact I haven't been struggling even since UWE went down the pan.
I'm just thoroughly enjoying another season watching the swash buckling adventures of the pirates!
Don't get me wrong, we're not playing out finest football by a long shot yet but I see alot of positives both on and off the pitch.
On the pitch:
That Rovers never say die attitude is still there in the squad, those players slogged their guts out at Wolves on Tuesday and really took the game to them and arguably deserved to win.
Yesterday whilst we were poor in spells (keeping possession mainly) we were definately the better side and managed to end Blackpool's unbeaten run.
All of this whilst our squad is, in DC's own words, quite threadbare, just imagine what might be able to achieve once everyone's fully fit.
Off the pitch:
I don't share the cynicism of others about our owners and i don't share the belief that they are here to do us harm, all I see is a club that is continually improving in all areas, little by little, bit by bit, you could call it evolution not Revolution.
I fully expect some exciting plans to be submitted for the colony within the next couple of months providing further evidence of the long term ambition of the club to develop our infrastructure.
Whilst we are back to the drawing board on the stadium i can't wait to see what the new owners vision is for mem. I was sitting in Wolves ground on Tuesday night thinking, yep this would fit nicely on our plot of land in Horfield. I know it isn't going to be easy or quick getting planning permission but we will get it as I believe we have twice previously.
Well, that's enough positivity from me, whilst I could go on with many more reasons to be cheerful this rose tinter gas head has to get out of bed on a Sunday morning to take my boy to play football.
Funnily enough it is Bristol Rovers Supporters Junior Football Club Vs Ashton Boys so on that note I will simply finish with the fact that one day in the future we will play the Teds again in the league. I for one can't wait for that day to come....UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2017 7:42:30 GMT
I've got way more faith that our new owners are moving the club in the right direction now than when Higgs owned it. We've managed to keep all our best players and our manager after a period of success, the first time we've done that in my 32 years supporting us. We've bought some land big enough to build a great training complex and are still looking at ways to build a stadium ( nothing's changed there so no better no worse). To the people saying that WAQ has taken away their dreams of moving to a better or bigger stadium all I can say is chasing dreams doesn't always end up well and the reality isn't always as great as the dream. As I said the other day the club has to do the right thing long term not give our older fans who want to see our club in a new stadium just for them if it's not a deal that suits the club. If UWE decided that they wanted twice the money once WAQ bought the club then he was right to refuse the deal, I wouldn't expect him to except it just to keep some desperate fans happy. As we start to run out of time in life we get more desperate to have the things we've always wanted and that's fair enough but grabbing at things that aren't right to chase that might be good for those people but what about the younger generations they will need a stable club with good income to support after the older generations have gone. The fact is, do you know the real reasons why the owners pulled out of the negotiations? Like everyone else you know no more or no less - I could say they pulled out because they've just changed their mind - they don't see a long term investment spending huge amounts of money suiting their business model anymore - who knows its all speculation. All I know is that they've made a decision (arguably one of the biggest in the club's history - bar maybe just one) with no explanation. I don't think they would be bounded now by a confidentiality agreement - if they are why not just say so. Until they start demonstrating tangible long term real financial commitment to the club without (putting it too bluntly) 'polishing a turd' I wil remain sceptical. From virtually day one they were saying the Mem was never an option - a strong statement by astute businessmen at the time - now with their backs against the wall they are saying it is - why should I trust them? Not much else we can do but trust them? Given the UWE haven't come out and called them lair's etc you have to feel there maybe some truth in what Wael is saying, regardless, on reflection given how selling Eastville in the 50's was always seen as a big mistake perhaps selling the Mem could be just as bad now? All we can do is hope the ALQ's are genuine, there's still nothing to suggest they aren't, and we'll see some definite progess on the two big projects soon. If we don't then at least we've got our Rovers back!
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Post by dexter on Sept 24, 2017 11:29:24 GMT
Been a lifelong Gashead but now live on south coast and don't get back as often as I would like.
Bit of feedback for all the doomongers on his forum. I've got a golfing mate who's a big Millwall fan. He went to the game at he Mem at end of last season and then went to AG to see the game againsy the City a few weeks back. He said to me yesterday "City have got a nice ground but Rovers is a real club with real supporters. I'd rather go to the Mem every time."
So be proud, Gasheads. Get behind DC and the current crop of players and never forget that you are all a part of a great club with a great following of loyal fans. The team is doing well. We have no divine right to success but under the current regime I, for one, feel confident that their hearts and minds are 100% with BRFC.
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Post by Nortongashead on Sept 24, 2017 12:23:31 GMT
A good post by OP. Whilst we continue to try and play decent attacking football my motivation will never waver (remember 4-5-1 at home under Ward). I feel let down with the communication over the UWE failure and subsequent fall out from MEM re-developement. A 3 line statement at 11pm at night to crush 6 years of hope was nothing short of disrespect. I feel for the older generation that deserve a new stadium after putting up with many years of tinpot facilities. The new owners have lost a lot of my respect and I sincerely hope if they cant deliver what this club needs then they should step aside and let others who are willing to do so. Our clubs biggest asset will always be its supporters and the current owners need to remember this.
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Post by baggins on Sept 24, 2017 13:05:07 GMT
A good post by OP. Whilst we continue to try and play decent attacking football my motivation will never waver (remember 4-5-1 at home under Ward). I feel let down with the communication over the UWE failure and subsequent fall out from MEM re-developement. A 3 line statement at 11pm at night to crush 6 years of hope was nothing short of disrespect. I feel for the older generation that deserve a new stadium after putting up with many years of tinpot facilities. The new owners have lost a lot of my respect and I sincerely hope if they cant deliver what this club needs then they should step aside and let others who are willing to do so. Our clubs biggest asset will always be its supporters and the current owners need to remember this. Step aside for who? Haven't seen a queue. Have a little faith in the long term project stated when they first bought us, and bought us at a time when strong rumours were that we were going into liquidation.
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Post by Nortongashead on Sept 24, 2017 14:56:56 GMT
A good post by OP. Whilst we continue to try and play decent attacking football my motivation will never waver (remember 4-5-1 at home under Ward). I feel let down with the communication over the UWE failure and subsequent fall out from MEM re-developement. A 3 line statement at 11pm at night to crush 6 years of hope was nothing short of disrespect. I feel for the older generation that deserve a new stadium after putting up with many years of tinpot facilities. The new owners have lost a lot of my respect and I sincerely hope if they cant deliver what this club needs then they should step aside and let others who are willing to do so. Our clubs biggest asset will always be its supporters and the current owners need to remember this. Step aside for who? Haven't seen a queue. Have a little faith in the long term project stated when they first bought us, and bought us at a time when strong rumours were that we were going into liquidation. Time will tell whether they are here in it for the long term. Genuinely think they did no due diligence before buying the club. Truth is yes we were close to admin but Wael and co weren't the only interested party's wanting to buy, Higgs did a deal that suited him.
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Post by c4h10 on Sept 24, 2017 15:31:25 GMT
Feel a bit ashamed to say but this season i have just felt so flat about the club. After the whole UWE thing and lack of having a real pop at league 1 and the slow start has just left me feeing a bit meh !! Maybe its just one of those things after a few interesting seasons but just wondered if anyone else admits to feeling the same ? Maybe its the lack of alcohol in my life. [ Bizarre! Or maybe not..I was going to start a thread probably worded exactly the same yesterday. This definitely echoes how I feel at the moment. I was gonna start a poll to gauage how people currently feel. I guess it was always going to happen after two unbelievable seasons and I think now that the UWE has officially been sacked off it's a case of what direction are we actually going in, what are we looking to achieve. Doesn't seem to be evident atm and that leaves me feeling a bit apathetic. Problem with that is, if you start it after a losing game people will feel down. If you start it after a win they'll feel great. I must confess that that is how I've always been. After a home win, or an away win or draw, I spend most of Saturday night following every bit of Rovers news. I watch every bit of the Football league/ Goal Rush show. Sunday morning off to the newsagents to buy the Independent and Football League Paper. Monday morning back for the Evil Post. Spend the rest of the week anticipating the next match and reading what you lot think of any Rovers related topic on here. Lose or draw at home, or lose away, I avoid the forum on Saturday night, probably don't watch Goal Rush, save a few quid by not buying a paper. I'll probably come round to looking at the forum by Wednesday or Thursday. Yep, - rather pathetic I know, but that's how I've been since the 1953/'54 season (obviously not including the forum and telly), so I rather doubt that I'll change now! So, if you start your poll, it's best that I don't participate - and I bet I'm not alone in being non-poll material on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:04:58 GMT
[ Bizarre! Or maybe not..I was going to start a thread probably worded exactly the same yesterday. This definitely echoes how I feel at the moment. I was gonna start a poll to gauage how people currently feel. I guess it was always going to happen after two unbelievable seasons and I think now that the UWE has officially been sacked off it's a case of what direction are we actually going in, what are we looking to achieve. Doesn't seem to be evident atm and that leaves me feeling a bit apathetic. Problem with that is, if you start it after a losing game people will feel down. If you start it after a win they'll feel great. I must confess that that is how I've always been. After a home win, or an away win or draw, I spend most of Saturday night following every bit of Rovers news. I watch every bit of the Football league/ Goal Rush show. Sunday morning off to the newsagents to buy the Independent and Football League Paper. Monday morning back for the Evil Post. Spend the rest of the week anticipating the next match and reading what you lot think of any Rovers related topic on here. Lose or draw at home, or lose away, I avoid the forum on Saturday night, probably don't watch Goal Rush, save a few quid by not buying a paper. I'll probably come round to looking at the forum by Wednesday or Thursday. Yep, - rather pathetic I know, but that's how I've been since the 1953/'54 season (obviously not including the forum and telly), so I rather doubt that I'll change now! So, if you start your poll, it's best that I don't participate - and I bet I'm not alone in being non-poll material on this one. [ Yep totally valid point mate, agree! I think this is why I avoided it. I'm defo the same after a win
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:19:17 GMT
Nope
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Post by justin blue on Sept 24, 2017 18:37:37 GMT
I've got way more faith that our new owners are moving the club in the right direction now than when Higgs owned it. We've managed to keep all our best players and our manager after a period of success, the first time we've done that in my 32 years supporting us. We've bought some land big enough to build a great training complex and are still looking at ways to build a stadium ( nothing's changed there so no better no worse). To the people saying that WAQ has taken away their dreams of moving to a better or bigger stadium all I can say is chasing dreams doesn't always end up well and the reality isn't always as great as the dream. As I said the other day the club has to do the right thing long term not give our older fans who want to see our club in a new stadium just for them if it's not a deal that suits the club. If UWE decided that they wanted twice the money once WAQ bought the club then he was right to refuse the deal, I wouldn't expect him to except it just to keep some desperate fans happy. As we start to run out of time in life we get more desperate to have the things we've always wanted and that's fair enough but grabbing at things that aren't right to chase that might be good for those people but what about the younger generations they will need a stable club with good income to support after the older generations have gone. So are you saying it's wrong to dare to dream if so maybe I don't get this football supporting lark. The stadium was not a dream it was a club project which we were told was vital because our present ground was not fit for purpose. I've never wanted the owners to compromise the clubs future so I could sit in a new stadium, of course it had to be right for the club. I don't know why the deal collapsed and I don't think you do either so why speculate. I am just dissapointed it has collapsed after all of this time. I feel the way I do not because I am in my sixties, but because I love Rovers. I resent the inference that people my age would put their own wishes before the future of this club.
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