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Post by stevek192 on Oct 29, 2017 9:51:53 GMT
The point is he was clever enough to be in the position when others may have come straight back. He took the chance clinically and efficiently. Only time will tell if that will be a season changing goal for him but lets not criticise the bloke for it. I honestly don't see why we don't pressurise teams from the front from the off instead of allowing teams to play from the back. It gives our forwards chance to stay up front and do their jobs.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 29, 2017 10:14:40 GMT
The point is he was clever enough to be in the position when others may have come straight back. He took the chance clinically and efficiently. Only time will tell if that will be a season changing goal for him but lets not criticise the bloke for it. I honestly don't see why we don't pressurise teams from the front from the off instead of allowing teams to play from the back. It gives our forwards chance to stay up front and do their jobs. I think that's because we would have left ourselfs wide open, yesterday we sat off let their centre halves have the ball and then pressed when it came into our half. If we'd pressed too high they'd have had more room to play in midfield and might have passed through us. Obviously not everyone plays the way Mk do so in other games pressurising their back 4 might be the way to go but let's give DC credit for yesterday tactically spot on.
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Post by socrates on Oct 29, 2017 10:44:06 GMT
The point is he was clever enough to be in the position when others may have come straight back. He took the chance clinically and efficiently. Only time will tell if that will be a season changing goal for him but lets not criticise the bloke for it. I honestly don't see why we don't pressurise teams from the front from the off instead of allowing teams to play from the back. It gives our forwards chance to stay up front and do their jobs. I think that's because we would have left ourselfs wide open, yesterday we sat off let their centre halves have the ball and then pressed when it came into our half. If we'd pressed too high they'd have had more room to play in midfield and might have passed through us. Obviously not everyone plays the way Mk do so in other games pressurising their back 4 might be the way to go but let's give DC credit for yesterday tactically spot on. Yeah it was more how we used to play in our promotion seasons yesterday. Gateshead at home and Swindon at home is what it reminded me of.
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Post by beaver132 on Oct 29, 2017 10:52:54 GMT
It's a perspective thing. Is a player that forces saves from keepers, gets his shot deflected, hits the posts, gets shots cleared off the line, unlucky or should he have done better with the chances he got? That's Nichols.
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Post by strads1983 on Oct 29, 2017 11:19:22 GMT
A lot of spot on comments about how we sat off and allowed them to have the ball at the back. That performance took real discipline from the whole team especially when the crowd are getting inpatient and shouting to close them down and press. That must be a managers nightmare when the crowd are yelling and getting inpatient. When you lose shape and you press as a single units that's when you get picked apart and concede goal after goal. It was clear MK had no plan B and DC clearly knew this and exploited it, as their no. 10 was an absolute beast but he was never going to trouble us in behind. Therefore having them play in front of us played into our hands. What does worry me still is the lack of real class / quality in the final third. However games like yesterday are the sort of results we need to grind out. Great 3 points and back to winning ways!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2017 11:19:32 GMT
It's a perspective thing. Is a player that forces saves from keepers, gets his shot deflected, hits the posts, gets shots cleared off the line, unlucky or should he have done better with the chances he got? That's Nichols. Not lately it's not been he's been really quiet after the first 15 mins of each game, let's hope this is break he needed to get his season underway.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 11:35:01 GMT
I thought we mixed it well when they had the ball at the back, sometimes we pressed high sometimes we didn't depending on the situation, as DC says in his aftermatch interview.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 29, 2017 11:57:45 GMT
Really? For me he was a massive part in our victory and was fully involved. I don't agree. He never looked like scoring until they gave it him on a plate. To be fair, he had a good first 10 where he had a good snap shot wide and then the one tipped round the post. To be honest, in the second half until Nichols' gifted goal I thought our front 2 had lost their way. Strange football sometimes.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 29, 2017 12:00:12 GMT
A lot of spot on comments about how we sat off and allowed them to have the ball at the back. That performance took real discipline from the whole team especially when the crowd are getting inpatient and shouting to close them down and press. That must be a managers nightmare when the crowd are yelling and getting inpatient. When you lose shape and you press as a single units that's when you get picked apart and concede goal after goal. It was clear MK had no plan B and DC clearly knew this and exploited it, as their no. 10 was an absolute beast but he was never going to trouble us in behind. Therefore having them play in front of us played into our hands. What does worry me still is the lack of real class / quality in the final third. However games like yesterday are the sort of results we need to grind out. Great 3 points and back to winning ways! I thought MK were a slow ploddy team - and any opposition tactically on it would have done the same as us. They wanted to walk the ball to our 18 yard line most of the time - compare them to Pboro or Oxford who moved the ball quickly to get at our back 4 as quickly as they could.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 29, 2017 12:14:26 GMT
The point is he was clever enough to be in the position when others may have come straight back. He took the chance clinically and efficiently. Only time will tell if that will be a season changing goal for him but lets not criticise the bloke for it. I honestly don't see why we don't pressurise teams from the front from the off instead of allowing teams to play from the back. It gives our forwards chance to stay up front and do their jobs. If a Rovers player had put him theough, you'd be moaning he was way offside 😂
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 29, 2017 12:56:21 GMT
Really? For me he was a massive part in our victory and was fully involved. I don't agree. He never looked like scoring until they gave it him on a plate. I agree there but he doesn't have to score to be an important factor in a good performance.
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Post by baggins on Oct 29, 2017 13:02:23 GMT
I don't agree. He never looked like scoring until they gave it him on a plate. I agree there but he doesn't have to score to be an important factor in a good performance. Thought he put in a good shift.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 13:08:53 GMT
If Gaffney is scoring one in three games or better he is the first choice striker. If Bodin scores one in two games from wide midfield then play him there. If Nichols starts scoring from a central striker position then play him there.
Harrison and Telford and Moore as replacements until their scoring record becomes better than the original choices.
Seems straightforward enough doesn't it ?
The issue is how to set up the midfield so that it is strong enough defensively but allows for Bodin to be in it. Which would mean Sinclair and Clarke playing with Bodin and either Lines or Sercombe.
So with the cup games coming up does D.C. opt to play EH and DT in the EFL trophy games and rest RG and TN ? Or try to give the TN/RG combo a run of games and into a scoring habit ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 29, 2017 13:22:56 GMT
If Gaffney is scoring one in three games or better he is the first choice striker. If Bodin scores one in two games from wide midfield then play him there. If Nichols starts scoring from a central striker position then play him there. Harrison and Telford and Moore as replacements until their scoring record becomes better than the original choices. Seems straightforward enough doesn't it ? The issue is how to set up the midfield so that it is strong enough defensively but allows for Bodin to be in it. Which would mean Sinclair and Clarke playing with Bodin and either Lines or Sercombe. So with the cup games coming up does D.C. opt to play EH and DT in the EFL trophy games and rest RG and TN ? Or try to give the TN/RG combo a run of games and into a scoring habit ? Um, Telford's scoring record is already better than Nichols.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 29, 2017 13:25:34 GMT
I don't agree. He never looked like scoring until they gave it him on a plate. I agree there but he doesn't have to score to be an important factor in a good performance. Yeah I understand that, I just didn't think he was an important factor. I just didn't think he was all that great. He took his goal well and that is what he is paid for so no complaints about him from me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 13:46:33 GMT
If Gaffney is scoring one in three games or better he is the first choice striker. If Bodin scores one in two games from wide midfield then play him there. If Nichols starts scoring from a central striker position then play him there. Harrison and Telford and Moore as replacements until their scoring record becomes better than the original choices. Seems straightforward enough doesn't it ? The issue is how to set up the midfield so that it is strong enough defensively but allows for Bodin to be in it. Which would mean Sinclair and Clarke playing with Bodin and either Lines or Sercombe. So with the cup games coming up does D.C. opt to play EH and DT in the EFL trophy games and rest RG and TN ? Or try to give the TN/RG combo a run of games and into a scoring habit ? Um, Telford's scoring record is already better than Nichols. In the league ? or are you counting against league two Wycombe reserves ?
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Post by baggins on Oct 29, 2017 13:52:43 GMT
I agree there but he doesn't have to score to be an important factor in a good performance. Yeah I understand that, I just didn't think he was an important factor. I just didn't think he was all that great. He took his goal well and that is what he is paid for so no complaints about him from me. You complain about him all the time!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 29, 2017 14:16:02 GMT
Yeah I understand that, I just didn't think he was an important factor. I just didn't think he was all that great. He took his goal well and that is what he is paid for so no complaints about him from me. You complain about him all the time! I have done yes. But not yesterday. I don't think he was any better yesterday than he has been in any other game I've seen him in but he scored. He can be crap in every game if he bags 15 a season. That's fine with me.
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Post by baggins on Oct 29, 2017 14:21:17 GMT
You complain about him all the time! I have done yes. But not yesterday. I don't think he was any better yesterday than he has been in any other game I've seen him in but he scored. He can be crap in every game if he bags 15 a season. That's fine with me. He's played well every game, just not found the back of the net. Yesterday changed all that.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 29, 2017 15:35:12 GMT
I have done yes. But not yesterday. I don't think he was any better yesterday than he has been in any other game I've seen him in but he scored. He can be crap in every game if he bags 15 a season. That's fine with me. He's played well every game, just not found the back of the net. Yesterday changed all that. Lol
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