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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2017 16:56:49 GMT
But our results from the previous games is worse than our current position. What you need to understand is we are where we justify being.it's no good picking on certain aspects to say this that or the other we are were our points put us ...in the bottom half of the table You need to look at things as they really are not living in the past what happened in the last few seasons have no bearing on what we do now or in the future I’m talking about this season not any other season. Last 6 league games 3 wins 3 defeats. 9 Pts Just shows you can prove anything with stats as letting in 12 goals in 5 games doesn't sound like a team in good form! Lose Wednesday and Saturday and things will be looking grim for DC.
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Post by socrates on Nov 5, 2017 17:05:59 GMT
I’m talking about this season not any other season. Last 6 league games 3 wins 3 defeats. 9 Pts No you were talking about the previous 6 games where we gained more points hence by your logic we should be higher up the league As an aside the old formula for promotion was win your home games and draw away hence average either 3 under the old system or 4 the new points per 2 games. I fail to see how 9 points from 6 games equates with a higher position when 12 is the target You seem to have misunderstood me. What I’m saying is in the form table over the last 6 games we are 9th. I’m not saying that’s where we should be in the league or that’s where I think we are and I’m not talking about previous seasons. I’m simply saying that in our last 6 league games we’ve won 3 and lost 3. Jesus this forum is like pulling teeth at times.
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Post by socrates on Nov 5, 2017 17:06:36 GMT
I’m talking about this season not any other season. Last 6 league games 3 wins 3 defeats. 9 Pts Just shows you can prove anything with stats as letting in 12 goals in 5 games doesn't sound like a team in good form! Lose Wednesday and Saturday and things will be looking grim for DC. Win them both and things will be looking great too.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 5, 2017 17:41:08 GMT
Yes that’s it isn’t it, our form isn’t that bad. Some clubs in this league would like to have it wouldn’t they. But looking at the cup match our defending was woeful. I trust DC to do some basic trading on defence this week. 3 goals from crosses into the box and a punt upfield. Our players must be able to deal with that stuff and not look scared of heading a ball as they did on Friday. Mind you I suspect the Notts Co manager would be doing the same after our two goals. Without making excuses and we shouldn’t have lost but at least we lost to the team at the top of the table, in other words a decent team on a good run. There were lots of League one teams who lost to league two teams in this round and who were not as good as NC. Oldham, Rotherham, Pompey, Southend and Walsall all lost to poorer teams, esp Southend at Yeovil and Walsall at Newport. Now if we’d done that I’d be really worried. As it is I’m just annoyed at our defending and wondering if our FA Cup form is getting as bad as our League Cup form (until the last two years that is). Perhaps D.C. doesn’t do cups! UTG!
ps and I expect were we to win against Scunthorpe then we’ll be looking upwards again instead of downwards. I reckon we are a middling team in this league and as a fan I’m going to enjoy being that!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 17:45:20 GMT
Just shows you can prove anything with stats as letting in 12 goals in 5 games doesn't sound like a team in good form! Lose Wednesday and Saturday and things will be looking grim for DC. Win them both and things will be looking great too. With that optimism think you better do the lottery you are bound to win. Me I am a realistic and think the team Wednesday will be similar to that against west ham and don't think it matters who he plays at scunthorpe
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Post by socrates on Nov 5, 2017 17:49:31 GMT
Win them both and things will be looking great too. With that optimism think you better do the lottery you are bound to win. Me I am a realistic and think the team Wednesday will be similar to that against west ham and don't think it matters who he plays at scunthorpe I don’t care who he plays or about the result v Swindon I think we’ll probably lose v Scunthorpe because we’re away and they’re a good side and I think we’ll pick up 4-6 points from our following two games which are both at home. Maybe I am optimistic but I think I’m pretty realistic too. Some in here are talking like we’re bottom of the league and I call that woefully pessimistic considering we’re 4 points off the play offs. And I am talking about this season.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 5, 2017 17:50:25 GMT
Yes, but we’ve got to be optimistic haven’t we? My 50 odd years of support has taught me that and after where we were 3 years ago I’m happy to be where we are now. I hope we do even better but recognise the limits we have to work in. Win the next few games and most people will be optimistic I would have thought! UTG!
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Post by rusho'gas on Nov 5, 2017 17:59:05 GMT
We won't win the next few games. Swindle are awesome away, Scunthorpe are good at home. Gas are fragile at present though this is nowhere near the crisis that some posters hold to be the truth. I always refer back to Alfreton away, that was the lowest point for me, we had hit the bottom and could only see struggle at that point. If you were one of the few that were there then you probably have the same view (great food though). Mid table on a poor run, that's where we are.
Whether these posters who constantly want change suddenly wake up and see the progress that has happened then there is no hope......it's the end of the world as we know it !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 18:28:41 GMT
We won't win the next few games. Swindle are awesome away, Scunthorpe are good at home. Gas are fragile at present though this is nowhere near the crisis that some posters hold to be the truth. I always refer back to Alfreton away, that was the lowest point for me, we had hit the bottom and could only see struggle at that point. If you were one of the few that were there then you probably have the same view (great food though). Mid table on a poor run, that's where we are. Whether these posters who constantly want change suddenly wake up and see the progress that has happened then there is no hope......it's the end of the world as we know it !!!! If that is the height of your ambition to be where historically we have spent most of our time mid table division 3 that is your perogative as for myself I want to see the club in a proper stadium not one that looks like a boy scout camp playing in front of large crowds in the championship but the way things are going it is a million miles away with little sign of any change but if you are happy with where we are that's up to you history is what it is and cannot be changed and looking backward continually does not help it is only the future that matters and at this moment in time it is pretty bleak
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Post by rusho'gas on Nov 5, 2017 18:37:33 GMT
It's all about perspective, yes improvement, were you at Twerton? Now we play in Bristol with our own ground, is this not improvement?
You won't wake up and find the club in a shiny new stadium next week or the week after. Perspective required.
I do not look back, I have a healthy perspective of the past and hopes for the future. These things take time, money and specialist knowledge, not some posts on a forum that may or may not be factually accurate.
Your prerogative is also valid.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 5, 2017 18:57:32 GMT
Our form over our last 6 matches in the league shows that we’ve picked up 9 points. If those had been the first 6 games of the season we’d be sitting in 9th. Baring in mind Bodin has been out for most of those I don’t think that’s so bad. All ifs buts and maybes it wasn't and we aren't. As for 9 points from 6 games as we took 3 points from the last one it is 6 points from 5 games and who is brave enough to put money on a win at scunthorpe not many I would imagine This is bizarre. It's like saying 'if you discount our wins, we're sh**e!' Well I agree with that, but luckily the football league don't discount our wins! I understand that we have a problem at the back and I get that it's worrying, but we sit in a decent enough position with nearly two thirds of the season to go so there's really no need for the panic or hysteria that is doing the rounds on here. I actually believe we have decent defenders but the mix isn't right at the moment and we have a couple of good players who are out of form. We have let in 29 goals in our first 16 matches. I wouldn't mind betting that we let in far fewer in the next 16. DC has put defensive issues right before in previous seasons and I strongly believe he will again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 19:41:01 GMT
All ifs buts and maybes it wasn't and we aren't. As for 9 points from 6 games as we took 3 points from the last one it is 6 points from 5 games and who is brave enough to put money on a win at scunthorpe not many I would imagine This is bizarre. It's like saying 'if you discount our wins, we're sh**e!' Well I agree with that, but luckily the football league don't discount our wins! I understand that we have a problem at the back and I get that it's worrying, but we sit in a decent enough position with nearly two thirds of the season to go so there's really no need for the panic or hysteria that is doing the rounds on here. I actually believe we have decent defenders but the mix isn't right at the moment and we have a couple of good players who are out of form. We have let in 29 goals in our first 16 matches. I wouldn't mind betting that we let in far fewer in the next 16. DC has put defensive issues right before in previous seasons and I strongly believe he will again. Ok take your word on it We will revisit in 16 games time
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Post by stigofthegas on Nov 6, 2017 11:32:34 GMT
With that optimism think you better do the lottery you are bound to win. Me I am a realistic and think the team Wednesday will be similar to that against west ham and don't think it matters who he plays at scunthorpe I don’t care who he plays or about the result v Swindon I think we’ll probably lose v Scunthorpe because we’re away and they’re a good side and I think we’ll pick up 4-6 points from our following two games which are both at home. Maybe I am optimistic but I think I’m pretty realistic too. Some in here are talking like we’re bottom of the league and I call that woefully pessimistic considering we’re 4 points off the play offs. And I am talking about this season. Having read your recent posts I would definitely class you as pessimist rather than realistic. If we lose the next two we may have to put you on suicide watch.
I know it isn't good at the moment but it is far from the end of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:02:20 GMT
Three years ago maybe....and their experience qualified them well for conference and league two. Time has passed so has the level of play. The three that come in would need to have minimum lots of league one and championship (or above) experience.
If the three players above were the answer then we would need to try to wrestle them from other league one clubs...that's not the case they are not playing.
Mansell is on our books mccrystal is still playing every week in the premier league over there for either Lingfield or crusaders not sure which.and easter had a lucrative media job offer so took it and retired. Are you saying that nicholls is more effective playing in the hole than easter or that mansell could not do the job of protecting our sieve of a defence I have already mentioned elsewhere that Mansell could help out in the team on the short term till a new player could be signed. The others are too old...end of story to be playing league one football.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 7, 2017 17:40:18 GMT
All ifs buts and maybes it wasn't and we aren't. As for 9 points from 6 games as we took 3 points from the last one it is 6 points from 5 games and who is brave enough to put money on a win at scunthorpe not many I would imagine This is bizarre. It's like saying 'if you discount our wins, we're sh**e!' Well I agree with that, but luckily the football league don't discount our wins! I understand that we have a problem at the back and I get that it's worrying, but we sit in a decent enough position with nearly two thirds of the season to go so there's really no need for the panic or hysteria that is doing the rounds on here. I actually believe we have decent defenders but the mix isn't right at the moment and we have a couple of good players who are out of form. We have let in 29 goals in our first 16 matches. I wouldn't mind betting that we let in far fewer in the next 16. DC has put defensive issues right before in previous seasons and I strongly believe he will again. Probably the best post I’ve read in ages. If Calsberg did forums !
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 8, 2017 21:34:11 GMT
It's only the cup
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 28, 2018 23:25:28 GMT
This is bizarre. It's like saying 'if you discount our wins, we're sh**e!' Well I agree with that, but luckily the football league don't discount our wins! I understand that we have a problem at the back and I get that it's worrying, but we sit in a decent enough position with nearly two thirds of the season to go so there's really no need for the panic or hysteria that is doing the rounds on here. I actually believe we have decent defenders but the mix isn't right at the moment and we have a couple of good players who are out of form. We have let in 29 goals in our first 16 matches. I wouldn't mind betting that we let in far fewer in the next 16. DC has put defensive issues right before in previous seasons and I strongly believe he will again. Ok take your word on it We will revisit in 16 games time Not quite got to 32 games yet but I'm enjoying the drop in goals conceded per game from 1.8 during the first 16 to 1.2 over the last 13. Still time for it to go tits up, I suppose..... First 16 games: W7 D0 L9 F25 A29 (1.8 per game)GD-4 Last 13 games: W5 D3 L5 F17 A16 (1.2 per game)GD+1
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 28, 2018 23:34:11 GMT
Mods please ban anyone regurgitating old threads, it confuses the fck outa me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 23:59:54 GMT
I like it when old threads are brought back. I made a nice thread about ellis before the season started,some of the responses made me feel like a criminal for creating it. me and a few others loved ellis then.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 29, 2018 0:05:31 GMT
Let’s face it we only regurgitate old threads when it makes us look like Mystic Meg!!😀 UTG!
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