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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 17, 2017 9:27:04 GMT
Unrest without substance depends on whether you have faith in Wael, as you do, or whether you are more sceptical. You're argument could equally be turned on it's head and fans faith in Wael is without substance. I'm not going to defend the previous board, as I saw nothing in their actions (which is wholly different to their intentions) to move the club forward. However their actions didn't make us unattractive to Wael & Co (probably quite the opposite), though the question remains are Wael & Co investors? Or at least how much are they willing to invest. I agree. But as I've said before. I've seen: - fees paid for players. - training ground plans. - stadium plans. - stadium titivation - better football - contactless payments - employment of key staff to take the club forward. - turn down fees - comments from DC directly saying the board are improving things. all small things but together add up to IMO stronger evidence than hearsay from unnamed sources that the Al-qadis are serious about this club. Not sure what titvation is, DC seems to be talking a different tune this week but stadium plans do please share these as you seem to be the only one that has seen these. Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived. NH was also happy to pay fees for players like Tom Parkes and not aware of which fees we have turned down for contracted players, can you share this with us?
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Post by gasincider on Nov 17, 2017 10:24:38 GMT
Whilst I can accept EW & NH might want to get involved in running the club again I just can't see why CJ would have any interest when he hardly ever watches the club and I believe doesn't even live in the Bristol area For CJ read Wael. He watches occasionally, and certainly doesn't live in the Bristol area.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 17, 2017 10:26:59 GMT
I guess you could have said the same when Gasincider broke the ALQ takeover news, although lightning only tends to strike twice in Wycombe. I didn't break the takeover by the AQ's. It was an alternative I knew of. I confirmed this at the time.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 17, 2017 10:31:52 GMT
Any one who was interested has seen the stadium plans. There was a do in the dribuild some years ago where they were displayed in all there glory. Of course, changes would have been made by now.
As for the training ground, SH was wLking round the ground with the rough plans in his hand at the open day.
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 17, 2017 11:13:02 GMT
Any one who was interested has seen the stadium plans. There was a do in the dribuild some years ago where they were displayed in all there glory. Of course, changes would have been made by now. As for the training ground, SH was wLking round the ground with the rough plans in his hand at the open day. Its all smoke and mirrors I tell ee
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 12:48:05 GMT
I agree. But as I've said before. I've seen: - fees paid for players. - training ground plans. - stadium plans. - stadium titivation - better football - contactless payments - employment of key staff to take the club forward. - turn down fees - comments from DC directly saying the board are improving things. all small things but together add up to IMO stronger evidence than hearsay from unnamed sources that the Al-qadis are serious about this club. Not sure what titvation is, DC seems to be talking a different tune this week but stadium plans do please share these as you seem to be the only one that has seen these. Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived. NH was also happy to pay fees for players like Tom Parkes and not aware of which fees we have turned down for contracted players, can you share this with us? titivation - shame you don't understand English - look around the west stand hospitality, East stand, entrance gates, police accommodation, food sales points etc Football better - we were in the conference - was it really better then? - not sure you know what football is!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2017 13:09:28 GMT
Not sure what titvation is, DC seems to be talking a different tune this week but stadium plans do please share these as you seem to be the only one that has seen these. Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived. NH was also happy to pay fees for players like Tom Parkes and not aware of which fees we have turned down for contracted players, can you share this with us? titivation - shame you don't understand English - look around the west stand hospitality, East stand, entrance gates, police accommodation, food sales points etc Football better - we were in the conference - was it really better then? - not sure you know what football is! You're not much of a "knowall" if you thought we were in the Conference when the new owners bought us? The quality of the players/football is only marginally better plus we've lost a lot of experienced players, Mildy, McM, Manse, Easter and Taylor and replaced them with the likes of the inexperienced Parts, Broadbent, Nicholls & Rolllin. Unless you are a family member I don't get your continued support of the ALQ's as it seems clear as day now there are big concerns where we are now heading under their ownership.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 17, 2017 13:16:01 GMT
If Higgs and Twatola etc come back thats me done with the club. I dont think it is humanly possible to run a footballl club any worse then they did and the way they alienated people. (Appreciate no tears will be shed)
I was so overjoyed when the pretend saviours took over
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 13:25:52 GMT
titivation - shame you don't understand English - look around the west stand hospitality, East stand, entrance gates, police accommodation, food sales points etc Football better - we were in the conference - was it really better then? - not sure you know what football is! You're not much of a "knowall" if you thought we were in the Conference when the new owners bought us? The quality of the players/football is only marginally better plus we've lost a lot of experienced players, Mildy, McM, Manse, Easter and Taylor and replaced them with the likes of the inexperienced Parts, Broadbent, Nicholls & Rolllin. Unless you are a family member I don't get your continued support of the ALQ's as it seems clear as day now there are big concerns where we are now heading under their ownership. Try reading with your new glasses - the sentence was 'Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived' - we were in the conference BEFORE Wael & Co arrived - and forgive me but I think the football was dire then. And if you think things were better under Higgs Ware and Twatola then I can recommend a good sanitorium
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 17, 2017 13:32:50 GMT
If Higgs and Twatola etc come back thats me done with the club. I dont think it is humanly possible to run a footballl club any worse then they did and the way they alienated people. (Appreciate no tears will be shed) I was so overjoyed when the pretend saviours took over On the brightside Twatola was Geoffs man not Nick's and came from one of Geoffs companies
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Post by gasincider on Nov 17, 2017 14:20:04 GMT
On the brightside Twatola was Geoffs man not Nick's and came from one of Geoffs companies Until he changed paymaster.
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 14:34:47 GMT
On the brightside Twatola was Geoffs man not Nick's and came from one of Geoffs companies Until he changed paymaster. and Geoff once said -' if he was any good he would be working for himself not me'
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Post by madgas on Nov 17, 2017 15:05:38 GMT
I agree. But as I've said before. I've seen: - fees paid for players. - training ground plans. - stadium plans. - stadium titivation - better football - contactless payments - employment of key staff to take the club forward. - turn down fees - comments from DC directly saying the board are improving things. all small things but together add up to IMO stronger evidence than hearsay from unnamed sources that the Al-qadis are serious about this club. Not sure what titvation is, DC seems to be talking a different tune this week but stadium plans do please share these as you seem to be the only one that has seen these. Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived. NH was also happy to pay fees for players like Tom Parkes and not aware of which fees we have turned down for contracted players, can you share this with us? en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/titivateIs your point, I don’t know that word, therefore it does not exist? Ie. My post untrue... not sure how I’m wrong. DC said exactly the same as before: “everyone’s working hard” that was said no fewer than 3 times. In last nights interview. I have not seen any stadium plans. I meant more that we have a board that have not shy’d away from this requirement. A new stadium is key. They’ve said so numerous times. Tom Parkes was signed in 2012! Surely, that further illustrates my point? In 4 seasons that followed we offered very little for anyone. (Not criticism, they didn’t have the funds- fair). In fairness, I believ a fee might have been paid for Gaffney, but that was an pittance. The signing of Tom Nicholls was extremely close to our record signing. Billy Bodin: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/41126706
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 17, 2017 15:08:00 GMT
Not sure what titvation is, DC seems to be talking a different tune this week but stadium plans do please share these as you seem to be the only one that has seen these. Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived. NH was also happy to pay fees for players like Tom Parkes and not aware of which fees we have turned down for contracted players, can you share this with us? en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/titivateIs your point, I don’t know that word, therefore it does not exist? Ie. My post untrue... not sure how I’m wrong. DC said exactly the same as before: “everyone’s working hard” that was said no fewer than 3 times. In last nights interview. I have not seen any stadium plans. I meant more that we have a board that have not shy’d away from this requirement. A new stadium is key. They’ve said so numerous times. Tom Parkes was signed in 2012! Surely, that further illustrates my point? In 4 seasons that followed we offered very little for anyone. (Not criticism, they didn’t have the funds- fair). In fairness, I believ a fee might have been paid for Gaffney, but that was an pittance. The signing of Tom Nicholls was extremely close to our record signing. Billy Bodin: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/41126706No I merely didn't know the word. Glad you have admitted lying about seeing the stadium plans, a little honesty goes a long way
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 17, 2017 15:10:57 GMT
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/titivateIs your point, I don’t know that word, therefore it does not exist? Ie. My post untrue... not sure how I’m wrong. DC said exactly the same as before: “everyone’s working hard” that was said no fewer than 3 times. In last nights interview. I have not seen any stadium plans. I meant more that we have a board that have not shy’d away from this requirement. A new stadium is key. They’ve said so numerous times. Tom Parkes was signed in 2012! Surely, that further illustrates my point? In 4 seasons that followed we offered very little for anyone. (Not criticism, they didn’t have the funds- fair). In fairness, I believ a fee might have been paid for Gaffney, but that was an pittance. The signing of Tom Nicholls was extremely close to our record signing. Billy Bodin: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/41126706 No I merely didn't know the word. Glad you have admitted lying about seeing the stadium plans, a little honesty goes a long way PS any evidence that Tom Nicholls was signed for near the £370k we paid for Andy Tilson (bargain)? All I've seen is a nudge, nudge, wink, wink from the Peterborough chairman who said they didn't lose money on him, and not a bloke I would trust to tell the truth but as a new owner...
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Post by madgas on Nov 17, 2017 16:06:28 GMT
No I merely didn't know the word. Glad you have admitted lying about seeing the stadium plans, a little honesty goes a long way PS any evidence that Tom Nicholls was signed for near the £370k we paid for Andy Tilson (bargain)? All I've seen is a nudge, nudge, wink, wink from the Peterborough chairman who said they didn't lose money on him, and not a bloke I would trust to tell the truth but as a new owner... I wasn’t lying. We have plans for stadium. I have not seen the plans. The plan is to redevelop the Mem, the plans will likely not have been made yet. I’m not sure the posh chairman would lie? The transfer will eventually come out. And he’d look a right idiot for doing so. Even if it’s 100k less than his suggestion, that’s a marked improvement in investment. And previous boards, have had lambert and Hoskins money to reinvest. We also spent a few on partington. There is criticism to be made of the board, but you’re coming across as if you refuse all positives? Personally, I’ll always find it hard to trust the chairmen following the landing lights comment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 16:43:08 GMT
You're not much of a "knowall" if you thought we were in the Conference when the new owners bought us? The quality of the players/football is only marginally better plus we've lost a lot of experienced players, Mildy, McM, Manse, Easter and Taylor and replaced them with the likes of the inexperienced Parts, Broadbent, Nicholls & Rolllin. Unless you are a family member I don't get your continued support of the ALQ's as it seems clear as day now there are big concerns where we are now heading under their ownership. Try reading with your new glasses - the sentence was 'Oh and the football was already better under DC before Wael and co arrived' - we were in the conference BEFORE Wael & Co arrived - and forgive me but I think the football was dire then. And if you think things were better under Higgs Ware and Twatola then I can recommend a good sanitorium We were in L2 when Mr Higgs was still in charge, ergo before the new owners arrived, and the football was better than the relegation season didn't you think.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 17, 2017 16:43:28 GMT
PS any evidence that Tom Nicholls was signed for near the £370k we paid for Andy Tilson (bargain)? All I've seen is a nudge, nudge, wink, wink from the Peterborough chairman who said they didn't lose money on him, and not a bloke I would trust to tell the truth but as a new owner... I wasn’t lying. We have plans for stadium. I have not seen the plans. The plan is to redevelop the Mem, the plans will likely not have been made yet. I’m not sure the posh chairman would lie? The transfer will eventually come out. And he’d look a right idiot for doing so. Even if it’s 100k less than his suggestion, that’s a marked improvement in investment. And previous boards, have had lambert and Hoskins money to reinvest. We also spent a few on partington. There is criticism to be made of the board, but you’re coming across as if you refuse all positives? Personally, I’ll always find it hard to trust the chairmen following the landing lights comment. I don't refuse all positives, though mostly those positives have been paid for from the security placed on the Mem. I'm not though going to make up statements (&you said you've seen stadium plans, perhaps reread your post eh) to support my views, only offer opinions. I like tom nicholls but over priced at the amount your suggesting (without evidence). I actually like Wael as well and feel if a deal could've been done for UWE he would've made more of the club than Higgs & Co would've. The problem is I knew at heart Higgs was a Rovers fan and would've felt more responsible for keeping the club alive if everything went wrong than Wael & Co would. And that is my opinion not fact and just a hunch. My alternative would be to believe that everything goes smoothly in football so why worry. Unfortunately it doesn't go smoothly does it?
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Post by aghast on Nov 17, 2017 17:48:16 GMT
In my opinion, these are the only plans for the Mem we are ever likely to see.
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Post by madgas on Nov 17, 2017 22:19:31 GMT
I wasn’t lying. We have plans for stadium. I have not seen the plans. The plan is to redevelop the Mem, the plans will likely not have been made yet. I’m not sure the posh chairman would lie? The transfer will eventually come out. And he’d look a right idiot for doing so. Even if it’s 100k less than his suggestion, that’s a marked improvement in investment. And previous boards, have had lambert and Hoskins money to reinvest. We also spent a few on partington. There is criticism to be made of the board, but you’re coming across as if you refuse all positives? Personally, I’ll always find it hard to trust the chairmen following the landing lights comment. I don't refuse all positives, though mostly those positives have been paid for from the security placed on the Mem. I'm not though going to make up statements (&you said you've seen stadium plans, perhaps reread your post eh) to support my views, only offer opinions. I like tom nicholls but over priced at the amount your suggesting (without evidence). I actually like Wael as well and feel if a deal could've been done for UWE he would've made more of the club than Higgs & Co would've. The problem is I knew at heart Higgs was a Rovers fan and would've felt more responsible for keeping the club alive if everything went wrong than Wael & Co would. And that is my opinion not fact and just a hunch. My alternative would be to believe that everything goes smoothly in football so why worry. Unfortunately it doesn't go smoothly does it? I'm not putting a price a Tom Nicholls, I believe the Peterborough Chairman though. You don't- fine. But the point remains, we actually paid a fee for him. This is improvement to me. I did not mean I've seen ACTUAL stadium plans. But we have stadium plans. I think you're being unfair on this.
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