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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 19, 2017 11:15:49 GMT
I'm getting off this forum until this dark cloud disappears. im coming with you
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 19, 2017 11:17:29 GMT
So stick to your own forum rules then and attack the poster not the poster? Anybody having a pop at GI this weekend after DC's 20man interview hss obviously still got their blinkers on, I took mine off on Thursday evening. You're confusing the subject of the post with the poster. It just happens that they are the same thing in this case. (I mean you've even confused it in your post above, look.) The post was about him, so it was a reference to the subject of the post. If he had talked about Moore, and I said, 'it's not about Moore,' that would have been fair enough, right?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 19, 2017 11:23:35 GMT
Dead right. But I was asked the question. If you don't like it don't read it. it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke. You want information even if it's false?
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Post by aghast on Nov 19, 2017 12:10:10 GMT
For those who may not have been there or seen this, from harrybuckle on the other forum:
--------------------- "I did not personally hear it but heard from a fan that Wael did appear in the BRSC bar for a pre match question and answer session. When asked about Mem and Colony he answered that the training ground will certainly happen and payments owed to contractor for work now resolved. As for Mem re development he said it was complicated and had hit snags but refused to give further details.
Does not sound like he or Chairman will appear on Having a Gas on Thursday to answer further questions from fans." -----------------------
Good on Wael for appearing in public and speaking to the fans. As for the rest, I won't comment since I posted this just for info.
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Post by madgas on Nov 19, 2017 12:14:17 GMT
At saturdays shambolic game I was given information from a club member that our manager was promised a playing budget of £4 million in the summer for a big push for championship football. He then signed his 5 year contract exstension but has not seen any of this money appear. If this is true then he/we have been badly let down.when Hamer made the “top six budget statement” it makes you wonder if He was lied to also! What the hell is going on? Sorry but I’ve think you’ve been fed utter nonsense. Our manager was promised a playing budget of 4m? Financial FairPlay just does not allow that. League 1 limits are capped at 60% turnover. Even in a good year, if we made- 5m. (We have never made 5m) We would be capped at 3m. This is going by our accounts. There is possibility for a small variation concerning turnover, As FFP only counts money actually received concerning transfers. And direct costs of hospitality but the net affect would neglictable It could be true. But personally I’d find it alarming. It’s why a cup run is so important. But we’ve been mixed in that recently. No doubt, gasincider can use this to bulk up his fairy tale.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 19, 2017 12:22:50 GMT
it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke. You want posters to post up falsehoods? well in my opinion if it turns out to be false I don't believe it would be because gasincider is trying to mislead or wind us up, it would be because plans change or never materialise. That's not to say it's all made up.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 19, 2017 12:23:48 GMT
it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke. You want information even if it's false? well in my opinion if it turns out to be false I don't believe it would be because gasincider is trying to mislead or wind us up, it would be because plans change or never materialise. That's not to say it's all made up.
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Post by madgas on Nov 19, 2017 12:23:56 GMT
Will agree that the top 6 budget remark must be false. Our budget will likely be where our attendances sit.
I don’t believe 4m could ever of been on the table. And even if so,I don’t believe that DC would have even believed if. We’re way off being able to offer that.
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Post by madgas on Nov 19, 2017 12:31:04 GMT
You want information even if it's false? well in my opinion if it turns out to be false I don't believe it would be because gasincider is trying to mislead or wind us up, it would be because plans change or never materialise. That's not to say it's all made up. Too an extent- I agree. How much do we really ever know??? But where I think gasincider needs to be careful is sticking all the stories together to come up with 11 The post regarding Chris Jelf being drip fed to us, is purely his interpretation. I hadn’t heard his name for a number of years. I certainly had not felt that. That’s purely conspiracy making. If you report what you’ve been told- fair. But there’s too much nonsense. I suspect there could be an element of truth, in what he says. He’s covered more basis than the chimp.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2017 12:41:18 GMT
it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke. You want information even if it's false? But two other mods suggest otherwise, Hugo said he's heard similar rumours and Gashead 1981 even suggests he's been told it's true, his posts from early November discussing the issue take it even further than Gasincider, are you suggesting your own boards mods are posting fake news? gaschat.co.uk/user/518/recent
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Nov 19, 2017 12:43:35 GMT
I don't know what to believe anymore? I don't know what is the truth and what is fake news? I don't know who is a proper Gashead and who is a Ted wind up merchant? What is apparent is that the team is struggling on the pitch devoid of any confidence and Darrell isn't happy and talks about difficulties without going into too much detail. He is aware of the questions being asked by the fans though and there is a massive cloud of negative energy hanging over the club at the moment. The failure of the UWE has been one of the reasons in my opinion, and the lack of information from those behind the scenes isn't helping. They really need to speak out soon and dispel the myths. Things can change, but not whilst there is massive negative energy surrounding the club. Come on Rovers. UTG
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Post by madgas on Nov 19, 2017 12:45:11 GMT
You want information even if it's false? But two other mods suggest otherwise, Hugo said he's heard similar rumours and Gashead 1981 even suggests he's been told it's true, his posts from early November discussing the issue take it even further than Gasincider, are you suggesting your own boards mods are posting fake news? gaschat.co.uk/user/518/recentIs being a mod relevant? I don’t expect mods to have the same views?
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 19, 2017 12:57:27 GMT
well in my opinion if it turns out to be false I don't believe it would be because gasincider is trying to mislead or wind us up, it would be because plans change or never materialise. That's not to say it's all made up. Too an extent- I agree. How much do we really ever know??? But where I think gasincider needs to be careful is sticking all the stories together to come up with 11 The post regarding Chris Jelf being drip fed to us, is purely his interpretation. I hadn’t heard his name for a number of years. I certainly had not felt that. That’s purely conspiracy making. If you report what you’ve been told- fair. But there’s too much nonsense. I suspect there could be an element of truth, in what he says. He’s covered more basis than the chimp. We should judge if we think it is nonsense and I also hope DC did the same if this was ever suggested to him. £4m is surely nonsense isn't it? You'd have to say more fool DC if that is what made him sign on the line, I say he is smarter than that
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 19, 2017 13:00:55 GMT
You want information even if it's false? But two other mods suggest otherwise, Hugo said he's heard similar rumours and Gashead 1981 even suggests he's been told it's true, his posts from early November discussing the issue take it even further than Gasincider, are you suggesting your own boards mods are posting fake news? gaschat.co.uk/user/518/recentYou are misrepresenting me. I said I was aware that there is unrest/friction with the current owners and ex directors. I was clear in explaining that I didn't know the reason for it and I've consistently stated that I don't believe in the doom and gloom peddling. I think its really bad for morale.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 13:10:37 GMT
At saturdays shambolic game I was given information from a club member that our manager was promised a playing budget of £4 million in the summer for a big push for championship football. He then signed his 5 year contract exstension but has not seen any of this money appear. If this is true then he/we have been badly let down.when Hamer made the “top six budget statement” it makes you wonder if He was lied to also! What the hell is going on? Sorry but I’ve think you’ve been fed utter nonsense. Our manager was promised a playing budget of 4m? Financial FairPlay just does not allow that. League 1 limits are capped at 60% turnover. Even in a good year, if we made- 5m. (We have never made 5m) We would be capped at 3m. This is going by our accounts. There is possibility for a small variation concerning turnover, As FFP only counts money actually received concerning transfers. And direct costs of hospitality but the net affect would neglictable It could be true. But personally I’d find it alarming. It’s why a cup run is so important. But we’ve been mixed in that recently. No doubt, gasincider can use this to bulk up his fairy tale. In league 1 an owner can make a donation to the club that will count as part of the clubs turnover as long as the owner dosnt expect to get the money back. so a steve lansdown type of owner can make a mockery of ffp in league 1.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 19, 2017 13:21:17 GMT
You want information even if it's false? But two other mods suggest otherwise, Hugo said he's heard similar rumours and Gashead 1981 even suggests he's been told it's true, his posts from early November discussing the issue take it even further than Gasincider, are you suggesting your own boards mods are posting fake news? gaschat.co.uk/user/518/recentThat wasn't the question. The question wasn't 'is it true,' was it? It was 'You want information even if it's false?' which was a direct (and reasonable, istm) response to the post I quoted.
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Post by madgas on Nov 19, 2017 14:51:28 GMT
Sorry but I’ve think you’ve been fed utter nonsense. Our manager was promised a playing budget of 4m? Financial FairPlay just does not allow that. League 1 limits are capped at 60% turnover. Even in a good year, if we made- 5m. (We have never made 5m) We would be capped at 3m. This is going by our accounts. There is possibility for a small variation concerning turnover, As FFP only counts money actually received concerning transfers. And direct costs of hospitality but the net affect would neglictable It could be true. But personally I’d find it alarming. It’s why a cup run is so important. But we’ve been mixed in that recently. No doubt, gasincider can use this to bulk up his fairy tale. In league 1 an owner can make a donation to the club that will count as part of the clubs turnover as long as the owner dosnt expect to get the money back. so a steve lansdown type of owner can make a mockery of ffp in league 1. Yes this is true. But are we criticising ‘the top’ for not chucking their money at us. Whilst at the same time laughing at Bristol City for doing so. Some fans (not accusing BB, here) come over a little- Daddy won’t buy me a PlayStation... blah wahh wahh. Not at one point has the manager criticised the budget- so why is this being raked up?
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Post by baggins on Nov 19, 2017 14:56:36 GMT
I'm getting off this forum until this dark cloud disappears. im coming with you Noooo, join in on the Calling all Rose Tinters thread.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Nov 19, 2017 21:19:12 GMT
The simple answer is that the whole atmosphere around the club has changed since the cancelling of the UWE. Even Clark is now public in his criticism of the status quo. I was asked recently what I hoped to achieve by going public with various bits of info from behind the scenes. My answer, honestly, was to hope the fan base would wake up and see what was staring them in the face. It now seems they are beginning too. That gives me hope that in turn, our owners wake up, to either sell up and go, or invest in a new stadium, preferably the UWE, and the team. I still don't believe the reason given for calling it off, and find it laughable that anyone would believe it. We have had 50 years of bullsh*t from owners. The Mem is obviously not a plan b, and the training ground is now on hold. Invest or go is the only hope. Trouble is, if they don't, it begins to smack of asset stripping, and there is not long before even that becomes non viable. I don't see what DC criticising Status Quo has to do with anything - I'm not a fan either
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Post by aghast on Nov 19, 2017 21:33:35 GMT
The simple answer is that the whole atmosphere around the club has changed since the cancelling of the UWE. Even Clark is now public in his criticism of the status quo. I was asked recently what I hoped to achieve by going public with various bits of info from behind the scenes. My answer, honestly, was to hope the fan base would wake up and see what was staring them in the face. It now seems they are beginning too. That gives me hope that in turn, our owners wake up, to either sell up and go, or invest in a new stadium, preferably the UWE, and the team. I still don't believe the reason given for calling it off, and find it laughable that anyone would believe it. We have had 50 years of bullsh*t from owners. The Mem is obviously not a plan b, and the training ground is now on hold. Invest or go is the only hope. Trouble is, if they don't, it begins to smack of asset stripping, and there is not long before even that becomes non viable. I don't see what DC criticising Status Quo has to do with anything - I'm not a fan either They keep telling him he's going down down.
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