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Post by scoobydoogas on Dec 5, 2017 0:08:19 GMT
What do you mean your son will be wearing another teams kit? He supports The Rovers. Why would he wear another teams shirt/kit? He wants a football kit for Xmas. Like many kids he takes an interest in the Prem and his mother is from Liverpool and her uncle used to work for them. Liverpool is his second team. He has an England kit and a Greece Kit too. I will be buying him a Liverpool kit for Xmas because I cannot buy him a Rovers away kit. ScrappyDoo got a full Liverpool kit for free on 29.10.2011. That was the day he was Liverpool mascot for their away game at West Brom in the Premiership. Free match day tickets for me, him and Mrs Scoobydoo, pre match hospitality with the West Brom mascots & families, loads of photos, met Kenny Dalglish, Pepe Reina, and Chris Waddle (he was commentating), ScrappyDoo joined in with the pre match warm up and almost injured Luiz Suarez before kick off, and Liverpool won 2-0. A thoroughly enjoyable day out. Only down side was that Gerrard and Carragher were both injured so didn't appear.
ScrappyDoo was also Bristol Rovers mascot on 11.09.2010 for the home game vs Brentford.
I don't see a problem with kids having a Premiership team as long as their first loyalty remains to their local team.
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Post by knowall on Dec 5, 2017 10:36:20 GMT
At 30th June 2010 Rovers owed the bank and brewery a total of £1.5 million, the directors a total of £2.5 million and we were losing £1 million per year. Today we owe Dwane Sports £12 million and we are losing around £2 million per year. So we are in a far worse state now than we were when the last Mem redevelopment plans fell through. And no one knows what the "project" is because all we have been given are vague ramblings about a training ground like Fleetwood's which is having to be scaled down because reality has kicked in and a redevelopment of the Mem which the Chairman is recommending be done stand by stand but he is not sure whether Dwane Sports agree with him about that. But whose fault is the massive increase in debts the ALQ's or the previous BoD, who seem to have bet and lost on the UWE/Sainsbury's, as debts were already around £10m when NH sold up. God knows why the ALQ's took on such a (financial) suicide pass. Well said Topper, swissgas has missed some relevant facts It is easy to forget where we were heading two years ago under Higgs and Co. and we are obviously not much further forward now, but at least there is a better 'feel' about the place. Granted that is subsiding and we need to see and hear some details as to where the owners are taking us short term and long term. Where swissgas is right is that we need future plans to be presented formally rather than a casual interview with Brookman.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Dec 5, 2017 11:56:14 GMT
At 30th June 2010 Rovers owed the bank and brewery a total of £1.5 million, the directors a total of £2.5 million and we were losing £1 million per year. Today we owe Dwane Sports £12 million and we are losing around £2 million per year. So we are in a far worse state now than we were when the last Mem redevelopment plans fell through. And no one knows what the "project" is because all we have been given are vague ramblings about a training ground like Fleetwood's which is having to be scaled down because reality has kicked in and a redevelopment of the Mem which the Chairman is recommending be done stand by stand but he is not sure whether Dwane Sports agree with him about that. But whose fault is the massive increase in debts the ALQ's or the previous BoD, who seem to have bet and lost on the UWE/Sainsbury's, as debts were already around £10m when NH sold up. God knows why the ALQ's took on such a (financial) suicide pass. Is that 10 million figure correct? From memory it was a fair bit less than that but happy to be corrected. And as for whose fault it is that we're losing cash hand over fist well that is clearly the Al Qadis. They have increased spending significantly since they arrived to the point that we cannot possibly get close to breaking even, even if we sell out every game. The extra spending might be a positive, but I think you're drawing a long bow if you're trying to saddle the previous BoD with the blame for our increased level of cash bleed.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 5, 2017 12:06:24 GMT
But whose fault is the massive increase in debts the ALQ's or the previous BoD, who seem to have bet and lost on the UWE/Sainsbury's, as debts were already around £10m when NH sold up. God knows why the ALQ's took on such a (financial) suicide pass. Is that 10 million figure correct? From memory it was a fair bit less than that but happy to be corrected. And as for whose fault it is that we're losing cash hand over fist well that is clearly the Al Qadis. They have increased spending significantly since they arrived to the point that we cannot possibly get close to breaking even, even if we sell out every game. The extra spending might be a positive, but I think you're drawing a long bow if you're trying to saddle the previous BoD with the blame for our increased level of cash bleed. and they are going to keep spending as well if the summer renovations are to be believed, which doesn't tie in with some of the narrative being written
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Post by blueridge on Dec 5, 2017 12:10:57 GMT
But whose fault is the massive increase in debts the ALQ's or the previous BoD, who seem to have bet and lost on the UWE/Sainsbury's, as debts were already around £10m when NH sold up. God knows why the ALQ's took on such a (financial) suicide pass. Is that 10 million figure correct? From memory it was a fair bit less than that but happy to be corrected. And as for whose fault it is that we're losing cash hand over fist well that is clearly the Al Qadis. They have increased spending significantly since they arrived to the point that we cannot possibly get close to breaking even, even if we sell out every game. The extra spending might be a positive, but I think you're drawing a long bow if you're trying to saddle the previous BoD with the blame for our increased level of cash bleed. Thought the figure was closer to £6.5m
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 5, 2017 13:57:23 GMT
oh good the lunatics are talking finance again
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Post by swissgas on Dec 5, 2017 14:57:18 GMT
oh good the lunatics are talking finance again But it's not just us lunatics MM because Darrel Clarke is talking about finance as well. He has said his net spend on transfers is only £135 000 and I'm sure when Steve Hamer mentioned us having something like Fleetwood's £9 million training ground Darrell was wondering where the money was coming from just like we were. Wael and his family refuse to talk about finances and try to give the impression everything is under control but clearly it's not. The debt when they took over was about £7.2 million (£4.5 million former shareholders + £2.7 million MSP Capital) and now we have been told they have invested £12 million so a further £4.8 million must have been spent since then. It looks like £3.7 was to cover trading losses and £1.1 million was on the land at Almondsbury which is registered in the name of Dwane Colony Ltd..
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Post by madgas on Dec 5, 2017 15:17:24 GMT
oh good the lunatics are talking finance again But it's not just us lunatics MM because Darrel Clarke is talking about finance as well. He has said his net spend on transfers is only £135 000 and I'm sure when Steve Hamer mentioned us having something like Fleetwood's £9 million training ground Darrell was wondering where the money was coming from just like we were. Wael and his family refuse to talk about finances and try to give the impression everything is under control but clearly it's not. The debt when they took over was about £7.2 million (£4.5 million former shareholders + £2.7 million MSP Capital) and now we have been told they have invested £12 million so a further £4.8 million must have been spent since then. It looks like £3.7 was to cover trading losses and £1.1 million was on the land at Almondsbury which is registered in the name of Dwane Colony Ltd.. More than half of the debt you mention- is kinda not there fault. We know we’re making trading losses but we have for years. I kinda dread to think where we’d be if we hadn’t been bought out. Many seem to be making the assumption that the al-Qadi family have all of a sudden become risk averse and thrifty. They know fully well, better than any of us the requirements that this club has. They have always been risk averse. The plan remains to get a stadium, and a training ground. I’m not sure there’s big need to panic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 15:26:02 GMT
I know were not quite there yet but im really looking forward to throwing plastic pigs on the pitch in unison in the 20th minute of a designated home match. Its something im already getting exited about.
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Post by blueridge on Dec 5, 2017 15:27:53 GMT
But it's not just us lunatics MM because Darrel Clarke is talking about finance as well. He has said his net spend on transfers is only £135 000 and I'm sure when Steve Hamer mentioned us having something like Fleetwood's £9 million training ground Darrell was wondering where the money was coming from just like we were. Wael and his family refuse to talk about finances and try to give the impression everything is under control but clearly it's not. The debt when they took over was about £7.2 million (£4.5 million former shareholders + £2.7 million MSP Capital) and now we have been told they have invested £12 million so a further £4.8 million must have been spent since then. It looks like £3.7 was to cover trading losses and £1.1 million was on the land at Almondsbury which is registered in the name of Dwane Colony Ltd.. More than half of the debt you mention- is kinda not there fault. We know we’re making trading losses but we have for years. I kinda dread to think where we’d be if we hadn’t been bought out. Many seem to be making the assumption that the al-Qadi family have all of a sudden become risk averse and thrifty. They know fully well, better than any of us the requirements that this club has. They have always been risk averse. The plan remains to get a stadium, and a training ground. I’m not sure there’s big need to panic. "They have always been risk averse" - so no risk buying BRFC?
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Post by Marshy on Dec 5, 2017 15:29:54 GMT
I know were not quite there yet but im really looking forward to throwing plastic pigs on the pitch in unison in the 20th minute of a designated home match. Its something im already getting exited about. Ooh a pig fettish BB? 🐷
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Post by madgas on Dec 5, 2017 15:51:02 GMT
More than half of the debt you mention- is kinda not there fault. We know we’re making trading losses but we have for years. I kinda dread to think where we’d be if we hadn’t been bought out. Many seem to be making the assumption that the al-Qadi family have all of a sudden become risk averse and thrifty. They know fully well, better than any of us the requirements that this club has. They have always been risk averse. The plan remains to get a stadium, and a training ground. I’m not sure there’s big need to panic. "They have always been risk averse" - so no risk buying BRFC? Of course there is risk. But people (not saying that Swissgas- he’s appears more concerned with debt) are acting as if they bought the club and realised it wasn’t profitable... not at all. They are aware of what this club needs there is no upside to running a loss year on year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:08:30 GMT
He wants a football kit for Xmas. Like many kids he takes an interest in the Prem and his mother is from Liverpool and her uncle used to work for them. Liverpool is his second team. He has an England kit and a Greece Kit too. I will be buying him a Liverpool kit for Xmas because I cannot buy him a Rovers away kit. ScrappyDoo got a full Liverpool kit for free on 29.10.2011. That was the day he was Liverpool mascot for their away game at West Brom in the Premiership. Free match day tickets for me, him and Mrs Scoobydoo, pre match hospitality with the West Brom mascots & families, loads of photos, met Kenny Dalglish, Pepe Reina, and Chris Waddle (he was commentating), ScrappyDoo joined in with the pre match warm up and almost injured Luiz Suarez before kick off, and Liverpool won 2-0. A thoroughly enjoyable day out. Only down side was that Gerrard and Carragher were both injured so didn't appear.
ScrappyDoo was also Bristol Rovers mascot on 11.09.2010 for the home game vs Brentford.
I don't see a problem with kids having a Premiership team as long as their first loyalty remains to their local team.
We all had second teams growing up Rovers mates and city mates, mine was Man Utd after watching them win the European cup on telly in 68, round Nobby gas parents house. Always Rovers first.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 5, 2017 17:19:14 GMT
oh good the lunatics are talking finance again But it's not just us lunatics MM because Darrel Clarke is talking about finance as well. He has said his net spend on transfers is only £135 000 and I'm sure when Steve Hamer mentioned us having something like Fleetwood's £9 million training ground Darrell was wondering where the money was coming from just like we were. Wael and his family refuse to talk about finances and try to give the impression everything is under control but clearly it's not. The debt when they took over was about £7.2 million (£4.5 million former shareholders + £2.7 million MSP Capital) and now we have been told they have invested £12 million so a further £4.8 million must have been spent since then. It looks like £3.7 was to cover trading losses and £1.1 million was on the land at Almondsbury which is registered in the name of Dwane Colony Ltd.. Didn't the ALQ's also write off £2/3m for costs spent on the stadium project when last year's results were announced, so they've probably overseen losses of "only" an additional £2m? You can only assume they are comfortable with that loss as nobody is forcing them to spend money on the pitch and a Development Squad or even buy the land at The Colony (apart from probably DC!). The fact BB is suggesting he's close to agreeing a deal suggests the ALQ's are still prepared to support DC. If he leaves and his replacement obviously comes from "Proundland" it's time to start worrying.
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Post by Big Jock on Dec 5, 2017 17:46:01 GMT
Ma wee pal down south said he saw Wael ordering 10 toilets, 5 sinks and a gazebo yesterday , he was waiting to see how much it would cost to have 'Club Shop' printed on th gazebo before confirming apparently.
It was in a place called Rajani, if that means anything to you lot.
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Post by matealotblue on Dec 5, 2017 17:50:26 GMT
Ma wee pal down south said he saw Wael ordering 10 toilets, 5 sinks and a gazebo yesterday , he was waiting to see how much it would cost to have 'Club Shop' printed on th gazebo before confirming apparently. It was in a place called Rajani, if that means anything to you lot. Greenbank way if memory serves.
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Post by aghast on Dec 5, 2017 17:52:14 GMT
If a consortium exists, or a team of investors willing to take over or invest in the club, surely now is the time to come forward?
It's now clear that nothing significant will happen to the stadium for years, so the opportunity to leap in is there.
If we hear nothing, I would suggest they are either i) talking to the owners already, or ii) don't exist.
They can't still be hiding away.
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Post by swissgas on Dec 5, 2017 17:54:20 GMT
But it's not just us lunatics MM because Darrel Clarke is talking about finance as well. He has said his net spend on transfers is only £135 000 and I'm sure when Steve Hamer mentioned us having something like Fleetwood's £9 million training ground Darrell was wondering where the money was coming from just like we were. Wael and his family refuse to talk about finances and try to give the impression everything is under control but clearly it's not. The debt when they took over was about £7.2 million (£4.5 million former shareholders + £2.7 million MSP Capital) and now we have been told they have invested £12 million so a further £4.8 million must have been spent since then. It looks like £3.7 was to cover trading losses and £1.1 million was on the land at Almondsbury which is registered in the name of Dwane Colony Ltd.. Didn't the ALQ's also write off £2/3m for costs spent on the stadium project when last year's results were announced, so they've probably overseen losses of "only" an additional £2m? You can only assume they are comfortable with that loss as nobody is forcing them to spend money on the pitch and a Development Squad or even buy the land at The Colony (apart from probably DC!). The fact BB is suggesting he's close to agreeing a deal suggests the ALQ's are still prepared to support DC. If he leaves and his replacement obviously comes from "Proundland" it's time to start worrying. The write off of £2.3 million legal and professional costs was included in the 2016 accounts and that's what the MSP Capital loan was primarily used for. The debt situation has deteriorated by £4.8 million since the take over. The issue about whether or not Dwane Sports are comfortable with this level of debt, and it increasing week by week, is one which Wael could have put to bed in his interview but chose not to. There is an issue because Steve Hamer and Darrell Clarke are clearly concerned about finances and I think the time to confront it would be before Darrell Clarke leaves rather than let him go and then start the blame game.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 5, 2017 18:52:13 GMT
Didn't the ALQ's also write off £2/3m for costs spent on the stadium project when last year's results were announced, so they've probably overseen losses of "only" an additional £2m? You can only assume they are comfortable with that loss as nobody is forcing them to spend money on the pitch and a Development Squad or even buy the land at The Colony (apart from probably DC!). The fact BB is suggesting he's close to agreeing a deal suggests the ALQ's are still prepared to support DC. If he leaves and his replacement obviously comes from "Proundland" it's time to start worrying. The write off of £2.3 million legal and professional costs was included in the 2016 accounts and that's what the MSP Capital loan was primarily used for. The debt situation has deteriorated by £4.8 million since the take over. The issue about whether or not Dwane Sports are comfortable with this level of debt, and it increasing week by week, is one which Wael could have put to bed in his interview but chose not to. There is an issue because Steve Hamer and Darrell Clarke are clearly concerned about finances and I think the time to confront it would be before Darrell Clarke leaves rather than let him go and then start the blame game. Thought he said the ALQ's were in for the long term, if so, then surely also means they are comfortable with the ever increasing debts in the long term?
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Post by xplosivgas on Dec 5, 2017 19:18:25 GMT
We need to get Wael to agree another radio interview. And last minute substitute 20man for Jeremy Paxman. It feels like so much has been allowed to go unanswered.
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