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Post by pirate on Mar 25, 2018 11:17:35 GMT
According to Barry Fry.
"It's always been a big club, with a massive fanbase," said Fry about the Gas.
"I think Darrell has worked miracles, I really do. I thought the new owners would back him more than what they have. It looks to me, from the outside, that he's had to bring a lot of young players through, although he'll be very good at that.
"At the start of the season they [Rovers] were one of my tips to be there or there abouts. They've got a great manager who I thought would get the best out of his players, but I don't feel they [the owners] have backed him.
"But I might be wrong, because I'm looking at it from afar," conceded Fry.
"Financially it's very tight [in League One]. We get 5,000 if we're lucky, Rovers can get miles more than that, they've got a great fanbase.
"They need that final push, they need to back the gaffer so he can fetch two or three players in, so he can have a mixture of youth and expereience.
"If you're developing good players and selling your best players, you're going to be a bit behind, that's the way I see it anyway."
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Post by socrates on Mar 25, 2018 11:27:45 GMT
According to Barry Fry. "It's always been a big club, with a massive fanbase," said Fry about the Gas. "I think Darrell has worked miracles, I really do. I thought the new owners would back him more than what they have. It looks to me, from the outside, that he's had to bring a lot of young players through, although he'll be very good at that. "At the start of the season they [Rovers] were one of my tips to be there or there abouts. They've got a great manager who I thought would get the best out of his players, but I don't feel they [the owners] have backed him. "But I might be wrong, because I'm looking at it from afar," conceded Fry. "Financially it's very tight [in League One]. We get 5,000 if we're lucky, Rovers can get miles more than that, they've got a great fanbase. "They need that final push, they need to back the gaffer so he can fetch two or three players in, so he can have a mixture of youth and expereience. "If you're developing good players and selling your best players, you're going to be a bit behind, that's the way I see it anyway." A fairly accurate assumption from him to be fair.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2018 11:39:38 GMT
Nail on head
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Post by bluestone on Mar 25, 2018 12:04:53 GMT
Personally don't see it that way.
I reckon DC prefers to bring in the youngsters and develop them. He strikes me as quite a thrifty character tbh.
In any event we've spent more on players in the last few windows than we have in a long long time so that's hardly not backing the manager imo.
Anyway if the owners were to splash more cash around on the playing budget it wouldn't guarantee success as we have seen all too often with other clubs.
Just face facts everyone, we were promised evolution not revolution and that's what we are getting. It requires patience and I for one am happy to be patient and will just keep on supporting the club, the owners, the manager and the players in their endeavours to keep progressing. As long as we keep improving little by little, bit by bit why not just go along for the ride and enjoy the experience.
We don't have a rosy faced tax dodging sugar daddy owner who will just throw his own money around willy nilly, we have owners that want to build and improve the club in a sustainable way. Nothing wrong with that imo.
UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 12:09:19 GMT
DC on sky now chesterfield v notts county
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Post by mftc on Mar 25, 2018 12:12:31 GMT
He asked for a development squad, about 10 more backroom staff and got it. The wage bill has increased by huge amount. I would say that is very very good backing.
If Tom Gorringe can increase income, then that will help enable DC to keep the players he wants.
When you lose £3m it must be hard to ask for more.
Hopefully, the new COE can come in and do a decent review, get things organised and get rid of the staff who do the bare minimum (or at least put a rocket up them) and get things to improve off the pitch, to try and help DC financially.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 12:12:59 GMT
Like Barry Fry or not, he is spot on with this.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 25, 2018 12:16:06 GMT
Like Barry Fry or not, he is spot on with this. Not, but yes.
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Post by Severncider on Mar 25, 2018 12:17:29 GMT
Personally don't see it that way. I reckon DC prefers to bring in the youngsters and develop them. He strikes me as quite a thrifty character tbh. In any event we've spent more on players in the last few windows than we have in a long long time so that's hardly not backing the manager imo. Anyway if the owners were to splash more cash around on the playing budget it wouldn't guarantee success as we have seen all too often with other clubs. Just face facts everyone, we were promised evolution not revolution and that's what we are getting. It requires patience and I for one am happy to be patient and will just keep on supporting the club, the owners, the manager and the players in their endeavours to keep progressing. As long as we keep improving little by little, bit by bit why not just go along for the ride and enjoy the experience. We don't have a rosy faced tax dodging sugar daddy owner who will just throw his own money around willy nilly, we have owners that want to build and improve the club in a sustainable way. Nothing wrong with that imo. UTG! DC has said at recent open meetings "that he would love a top six budget" as he could get BRFC where he thinks they should be.
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Post by baggins on Mar 25, 2018 12:18:38 GMT
Personally don't see it that way. I reckon DC prefers to bring in the youngsters and develop them. He strikes me as quite a thrifty character tbh. In any event we've spent more on players in the last few windows than we have in a long long time so that's hardly not backing the manager imo. Anyway if the owners were to splash more cash around on the playing budget it wouldn't guarantee success as we have seen all too often with other clubs. Just face facts everyone, we were promised evolution not revolution and that's what we are getting. It requires patience and I for one am happy to be patient and will just keep on supporting the club, the owners, the manager and the players in their endeavours to keep progressing. As long as we keep improving little by little, bit by bit why not just go along for the ride and enjoy the experience. We don't have a rosy faced tax dodging sugar daddy owner who will just throw his own money around willy nilly, we have owners that want to build and improve the club in a sustainable way. Nothing wrong with that imo. UTG! DC has said at recent open meetings "that he would love a top six budget" as he could get BRFC where he thinks they should be. Just out of interest, how much is a top six budget these days?
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Post by casey12a on Mar 25, 2018 12:33:32 GMT
Personally don't see it that way. I reckon DC prefers to bring in the youngsters and develop them. He strikes me as quite a thrifty character tbh. In any event we've spent more on players in the last few windows than we have in a long long time so that's hardly not backing the manager imo. Anyway if the owners were to splash more cash around on the playing budget it wouldn't guarantee success as we have seen all too often with other clubs. Just face facts everyone, we were promised evolution not revolution and that's what we are getting. It requires patience and I for one am happy to be patient and will just keep on supporting the club, the owners, the manager and the players in their endeavours to keep progressing. As long as we keep improving little by little, bit by bit why not just go along for the ride and enjoy the experience. We don't have a rosy faced tax dodging sugar daddy owner who will just throw his own money around willy nilly, we have owners that want to build and improve the club in a sustainable way. Nothing wrong with that imo. UTG! DC has said at recent open meetings "that he would love a top six budget" as he could get BRFC where he thinks they should be. But wouldn’t we need a 6th annual turnover to get it based on the rules?
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 25, 2018 12:34:08 GMT
According to Barry Fry. "It's always been a big club, with a massive fanbase," said Fry about the Gas. "I think Darrell has worked miracles, I really do. I thought the new owners would back him more than what they have. It looks to me, from the outside, that he's had to bring a lot of young players through, although he'll be very good at that. "At the start of the season they [Rovers] were one of my tips to be there or there abouts. They've got a great manager who I thought would get the best out of his players, but I don't feel they [the owners] have backed him. "But I might be wrong, because I'm looking at it from afar," conceded Fry. "Financially it's very tight [in League One]. We get 5,000 if we're lucky, Rovers can get miles more than that, they've got a great fanbase. "They need that final push, they need to back the gaffer so he can fetch two or three players in, so he can have a mixture of youth and expereience. "If you're developing good players and selling your best players, you're going to be a bit behind, that's the way I see it anyway." I heard this interview on the radio yesterday. What he also said which was left out of this snippet was that P’boro like Rovers blood their young players or improve your squad and then sale them for a profit. Problem with that is you can be left behind or stay static. He also meant by the owners backing Darrell by giving him a better budget to compete with. If you give someone a big long term contract it’s pointless not giving him the tools to succeed. He spoke a lot of sense and was spot on in his assessment.
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Post by pirate on Mar 25, 2018 12:39:57 GMT
DC has said at recent open meetings "that he would love a top six budget" as he could get BRFC where he thinks they should be. But wouldn’t we need a 6th annual turnover to get it based on the rules? There is no reason why we couldn't have the 6th best turnover. The owners could easily pump more money in through sponsorship or whatever to give us a top 6 budget.
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Post by baggins on Mar 25, 2018 12:46:35 GMT
But wouldn’t we need a 6th annual turnover to get it based on the rules? There is no reason why we couldn't have the 6th best turnover. The owners could easily pump more money in through sponsorship or whatever to give us a top 6 budget. Is that allowed?
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Post by pirate on Mar 25, 2018 12:51:04 GMT
There is no reason why we couldn't have the 6th best turnover. The owners could easily pump more money in through sponsorship or whatever to give us a top 6 budget. Is that allowed? Apparently the FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 25, 2018 12:55:30 GMT
Problem is what good is Championship football going to bring until we make some moves to get a new stadium? Say the ALQ's "donate" £1m then DC gets us promoted what do they then do, donate another £1m or £2m to keep us their, or leave us to just sink or swim and then we finish bottom after a few thrashings along the way. Also don't forget once we hit the Championship we only have 3 seasons to get an all seater stadium.
Then there's also how much the ALQ's are willing to spend each season, as £3m was lost last season and another £2m has probably been spend this season.
Fry really need to look at the bigger picture as his club's stadium is up to Championship football ours, sadly, isn't.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 25, 2018 12:57:33 GMT
But wouldn’t we need a 6th annual turnover to get it based on the rules? There is no reason why we couldn't have the 6th best turnover. The owners could easily pump more money in through sponsorship or whatever to give us a top 6 budget. And the will when the time is right....
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Post by baggins on Mar 25, 2018 13:01:24 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 25, 2018 13:02:59 GMT
There is no reason why we couldn't have the 6th best turnover. The owners could easily pump more money in through sponsorship or whatever to give us a top 6 budget. And the will when the time is right.... ....we just have to hope they will. Although if the time is when we've got a decent ground they won't need to as our turnover should by then by top 6 or better?
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Post by peterparker on Mar 25, 2018 13:07:47 GMT
According to Barry Fry. "It's always been a big club, with a massive fanbase," said Fry about the Gas. "I think Darrell has worked miracles, I really do. I thought the new owners would back him more than what they have. It looks to me, from the outside, that he's had to bring a lot of young players through, although he'll be very good at that. "At the start of the season they [Rovers] were one of my tips to be there or there abouts. They've got a great manager who I thought would get the best out of his players, but I don't feel they [the owners] have backed him. "But I might be wrong, because I'm looking at it from afar," conceded Fry. "Financially it's very tight [in League One]. We get 5,000 if we're lucky, Rovers can get miles more than that, they've got a great fanbase. "They need that final push, they need to back the gaffer so he can fetch two or three players in, so he can have a mixture of youth and expereience. "If you're developing good players and selling your best players, you're going to be a bit behind, that's the way I see it anyway." I heard this interview on the radio yesterday. What he also said which was left out of this snippet was that P’boro like Rovers blood their young players or improve your squad and then sale them for a profit. Problem with that is you can be left behind or stay static. He also meant by the owners backing Darrell by giving him a better budget to compete with. If you give someone a big long term contract it’s pointless not giving him the tools to succeed. He spoke a lot of sense and was spot on in his assessment. But that is Barry Fry not knowing everything or picking and choosing his info. What good is throwing money at DC when the club has no infrastructure to back it up. Surely the development squad and the training ground are all part of the things the club need to succeed longer than DC possibly being here as a manager
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