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Post by BishopstonBRFC on May 31, 2018 10:26:29 GMT
i guess we may find out soon as they are only on sale for a couple more weeks. What's the betting we're the only league football club in the country to stop s/t sales even before next season's the fixture list is released? It's totally bizarre. Maybe but everyone knows who we're playing next season. Can't imagine many would decide against a season ticket just because Sunderland is on a Tuesday night
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Post by peterparker on May 31, 2018 11:00:15 GMT
i guess we may find out soon as they are only on sale for a couple more weeks. What's the betting we're the only league football club in the country to stop s/t sales even before next season's the fixture list is released? It's totally bizarre. well the club have explained this haven't they, because we are going electronic, time is needed for them to be produced and sent out
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 31, 2018 11:03:14 GMT
What's the betting we're the only league football club in the country to stop s/t sales even before next season's the fixture list is released? It's totally bizarre. Maybe but everyone knows who we're playing next season. Can't imagine many would decide against a season ticket just because Sunderland is on a Tuesday night Are they allowed to sell 100% of the ground out to STs? I imagine most seating is already allocated to ST holders. Are there any regs about ticket availability for POTD customers?
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Post by thegasman on May 31, 2018 11:40:39 GMT
What's the betting we're the only league football club in the country to stop s/t sales even before next season's the fixture list is released? It's totally bizarre. well the club have explained this haven't they, because we are going electronic, time is needed for them to be produced and sent out*cough cough* bollix, other clubs use plastic cards, and have no need to stop selling season tickets early to facilitate the production of said cards.
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Post by spoony on May 31, 2018 11:44:02 GMT
well the club have explained this haven't they, because we are going electronic, time is needed for them to be produced and sent out *cough cough* bollix, other clubs use plastic cards, and have no need to stop selling season tickets early to facilitate the production of said cards. Not sure if serious but Ill reply anyway. Surely this is because every single season ticket holder needs a card printed, whereas in future years, only brand new season ticket holders need a card printed, the rest of us will just have the ticket loaded onto the card.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 31, 2018 11:44:56 GMT
well the club have explained this haven't they, because we are going electronic, time is needed for them to be produced and sent out *cough cough* bollix, other clubs use plastic cards, and have no need to stop selling season tickets early to facilitate the production of said cards. Sure, but we've just launched. I'd much rather we had the foresight and wherewithal to try to cover for any (inevitable) f**k-ups and teething troubles, than to keep this going till August and suddenly find no one can get into the ground.
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Post by Marshy on May 31, 2018 11:52:17 GMT
*cough cough* bollix, other clubs use plastic cards, and have no need to stop selling season tickets early to facilitate the production of said cards. Sure, but we've just launched. I'd much rather we had the foresight and wherewithal to try to cover for any (inevitable) f**k-ups and teething troubles, than to keep this going till August and suddenly find no one can get into the ground. It should be trialed 1st game on the away supporters only, let them have the ballache! 😁
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Post by thegasman on May 31, 2018 11:55:45 GMT
*cough cough* bollix, other clubs use plastic cards, and have no need to stop selling season tickets early to facilitate the production of said cards. Not sure if serious but Ill reply anyway. Surely this is because every single season ticket holder needs a card printed, whereas in future years, only brand new season ticket holders need a card printed, the rest of us will just have the ticket loaded onto the card.Deadly serious, clubs using cards don't ask fans to take their card to a place to have new data uploaded to it. A new card is produced from scratch each year. The cards are pre-printed with any logos, pictures or writing needed, then the cards are fed into a machine in bulk to have the RFID chip updated with the requisite info (the club can either do this themselves or farm it out) and maybe have the name/season ticket type/stand location printed on it. At worst it takes seconds a card, even if it was to take a whole minute, multiply that by say 5000 season tickets, thats ummm 85 ish hours of work, assuming there is only 1 machine doing all this. If 20 seconds per card, thats 28ish hours of work. just goes to show the absurdity of stopping selling tickets early.
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Post by peterparker on May 31, 2018 11:56:44 GMT
*cough cough* bollix, other clubs use plastic cards, and have no need to stop selling season tickets early to facilitate the production of said cards. Not sure if serious but Ill reply anyway. Surely this is because every single season ticket holder needs a card printed, whereas in future years, only brand new season ticket holders need a card printed, the rest of us will just have the ticket loaded onto the card. indeed, much like from another club not to far away
Current season card holders who aren’t moving seats or changing price categories we will be able to reload their current season card with the 2017/18 season. Therefore, fans should not throw away their existing season cards at the end of this season.
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Post by gasincider on Jun 1, 2018 23:14:45 GMT
This is the £50m investment that isn't there, not a months pay for the players which was as long as Hani put it through. Totally different context. But I reiterate, the AQ's have never had £50m for the stadium, it was other people's money. Investment bankers don't tend to use their own money, and certainly not £50m. So you're still lying. Try again. Well you've just posted the evidence right there haven't you. You've just said again the players weren't paid. You're really not very good at this bullsh1tting lark are you? Read the original post again. You're still lying.
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Post by gasincider on Jun 1, 2018 23:16:59 GMT
This is the £50m investment that isn't there, not a months pay for the players which was as long as Hani put it through. Totally different context. But I reiterate, the AQ's have never had £50m for the stadium, it was other people's money. Investment bankers don't tend to use their own money, and certainly not £50m. So you're still lying. Try again. How many clubs and/or owners have built new stadiums or stands without some sort of outside finance No argument from me there. But I clearly recall Wael saying finance was not an issue. Can't you remember that? Wonder if proof of funds was ever submitted.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 2, 2018 4:48:08 GMT
How many clubs and/or owners have built new stadiums or stands without some sort of outside finance No argument from me there. But I clearly recall Wael saying finance was not an issue. Can't you remember that? Wonder if proof of funds was ever submitted. Is there any proof anywhere that finance is an issue?
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jun 2, 2018 6:32:05 GMT
Not sure if serious but Ill reply anyway. Surely this is because every single season ticket holder needs a card printed, whereas in future years, only brand new season ticket holders need a card printed, the rest of us will just have the ticket loaded onto the card. indeed, much like from another club not to far away
Current season card holders who aren’t moving seats or changing price categories we will be able to reload their current season card with the 2017/18 season. Therefore, fans should not throw away their existing season cards at the end of this season.
Will it be QR/bar code rather than chip. Most games I've been to where there are unmanned turnstiles go by this route. Also negates need for any potential cup games to go through the voucher process as you'd just pay on line and have game added to card. I know the gumps up the road have a membership scheme - aka supporters club- where card holders have 2nd priority after ST holders. Pay online - or over phone - & ticket is uploaded to card. Non card holders either print barcode at home or have it on their smart phones
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Post by LJG on Jun 2, 2018 7:31:22 GMT
Well you've just posted the evidence right there haven't you. You've just said again the players weren't paid. You're really not very good at this bullsh1tting lark are you? Read the original post again. You're still lying. Am I still lying? What evidence is there that it was such a bad deal? The real reason was they didn't want to fund it. Why can't people see the bull we are fed every day? If they had the money, the training ground would be under way at a minimum. So where is it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 7:33:20 GMT
I am sure the club is delighted our supporters appear to not trust them on everything they do. Indeed some on here appear to be experts in everything, can't these people for once let the club get on with it, as I for one feel sure the new season ticket card will be produced for the club by professional experts in the field and not Gaschat amateur experts!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 2, 2018 8:44:05 GMT
Not sure if serious but Ill reply anyway. Surely this is because every single season ticket holder needs a card printed, whereas in future years, only brand new season ticket holders need a card printed, the rest of us will just have the ticket loaded onto the card. Deadly serious, clubs using cards don't ask fans to take their card to a place to have new data uploaded to it. A new card is produced from scratch each year. The cards are pre-printed with any logos, pictures or writing needed, then the cards are fed into a machine in bulk to have the RFID chip updated with the requisite info (the club can either do this themselves or farm it out) and maybe have the name/season ticket type/stand location printed on it. At worst it takes seconds a card, even if it was to take a whole minute, multiply that by say 5000 season tickets, thats ummm 85 ish hours of work, assuming there is only 1 machine doing all this. If 20 seconds per card, thats 28ish hours of work. just goes to show the absurdity of stopping selling tickets early. I expect itll be a card with an ID on it, much like a bank card, where the details are held in the database and nothing else on the card. That way information can be changed or added on the database without the customer going any where near the ground and the cards can be reused for years on end. If the card gets lost or stolen, the cardholder ID gets replaced on the database and the old card stops working. Very easy to administer and manage as you integrate into your ticketing platform. This is actually a little more painful in setup though that you need to ensure the dispatched card is correctly linked to the right person on the database, unless you have a decent process for automating this which we will not have bought for 5,000 cards alone. It’s an evelope stuffing exercise. So I get why they’re saying it but most people will have renewed or signed up by now so I don’t see the harm in allowing a few stragglers to come up. Actually, I do know. Gasheads are an unforgiving bunch and they don’t want the process to take longer than expected whereby there’s a disaster at the first game because significant volumes of season ticket holders can’t get in because the cards haven’t been received. As it will give the doom mongers another chance to slate positive progress in the club and make the whole turnstile project look as farce. It’ll be a stakeholder expectation exercise and they may well reopen season ticketing if the exercise goes well. I expect there may be offers or free entry for select individuals at some of the preseason game to get the system tested. Just speculating on all matters but a bigger scale problem in my workplace basically works like this.
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Post by bluestone on Jun 2, 2018 13:01:10 GMT
Probably a silly question but why on earth are some people getting so impatient for their new ST cards when they are not going to be using them for the best part of 2 months?
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Post by knowall on Jun 2, 2018 14:01:50 GMT
Probably a silly question but why on earth are some people getting so impatient for their new ST cards when they are not going to be using them for the best part of 2 months? Have you noticed that the 'some' people are the 'same' people? every anti thread
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 18:53:55 GMT
Probably a silly question but why on earth are some people getting so impatient for their new ST cards when they are not going to be using them for the best part of 2 months? Have you noticed that the 'some' people are the 'same' people? every anti thread Ain't that just the case. Some (same!) people are really missing the football season and seem to be trying to find something to moan at anywhere they can.
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Post by xplosivgas on Jun 2, 2018 20:30:21 GMT
No argument from me there. But I clearly recall Wael saying finance was not an issue. Can't you remember that? Wonder if proof of funds was ever submitted. Is there any proof anywhere that finance is an issue? If it wasn't an issue I doubt we'd be discussing a new tent stand, by now we'd probably be mulling over initial plans for a new stadium or re-development.
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