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Post by pirate on Jul 20, 2018 15:21:17 GMT
As I've said before it is a million+ we would be daft to say no really. We could sign 2 or 3 good players with that money. I would expect it to be invested back into the side immediately too, not make do with players on frees. Could we get two or three good players with the money in today's market? Eisa is a good player in the league below and Cheltenham have rejected at least two £1mil bids for him.
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 20, 2018 15:25:17 GMT
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Post by singupgas on Jul 20, 2018 15:30:12 GMT
As I've said before it is a million+ we would be daft to say no really. We could sign 2 or 3 good players with that money. I would expect it to be invested back into the side immediately too, not make do with players on frees. Could we get two or three good players with the money in today's market? Eisa is a good player in the league below and Cheltenham have rejected at least two £1mil bids for him. Think they are in a similar situation. Eisa considered one of their star men and they have put a label on him. I don't think all clubs would be demanding 1 million for player in league 2, you just get exceptions. Personally if we had to lose any if our players this season then I would prefer Harrison to the likes of Sercombe. DC could find a like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal without too much problem I would hope. Ellis hasn't always been prolific. This season just gone is probably his best statistically by a long way in comparison to previous years.
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Post by pirate on Jul 20, 2018 15:36:17 GMT
Could we get two or three good players with the money in today's market? Eisa is a good player in the league below and Cheltenham have rejected at least two £1mil bids for him. Think they are in a similar situation. Eisa considered one of their star men and they have put a label on him. I don't think all clubs would be demanding 1 million for player in league 2, you just get exceptions. Personally if we had to lose any if our players this season then I would prefer Harrison to the likes of Sercombe. DC could find a like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal without too much problem I would hope. Ellis hasn't always been prolific. This season just gone is probably his best statistically by a long way in comparison to previous years. Finding a "like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal" that would be prepared to join us won't be that easy and "without too much problem" IMHO. There really aren't that many about. I can think of one or two in this country, but no guarantees they would be a success.
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Post by bovrilsorters on Jul 20, 2018 15:36:35 GMT
Could we get two or three good players with the money in today's market? Eisa is a good player in the league below and Cheltenham have rejected at least two £1mil bids for him. Think they are in a similar situation. Eisa considered one of their star men and they have put a label on him. I don't think all clubs would be demanding 1 million for player in league 2, you just get exceptions. Personally if we had to lose any if our players this season then I would prefer Harrison to the likes of Sercombe. DC could find a like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal without too much problem I would hope. Ellis hasn't always been prolific. This season just gone is probably his best statistically by a long way in comparison to previous years. I think what Ellis brings to the team beyond goals is hugely underestimated. I really don't think it would be easy to find a similar player as a replacement, his work rate and defensive abilities are top notch and his all round game has really come on. I think we could find someone with similar attributes in terms of pace etc, however it has taken years of DC (and probably MS in the main) to bring his all round game to the level where he is being linked with big money moves to championship clubs. That said, for the right price I would sell and look to invest in a few up and coming strikers to work on over time, provided 1 experienced striker was brought in.
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 20, 2018 15:42:33 GMT
Think they are in a similar situation. Eisa considered one of their star men and they have put a label on him. I don't think all clubs would be demanding 1 million for player in league 2, you just get exceptions. Personally if we had to lose any if our players this season then I would prefer Harrison to the likes of Sercombe. DC could find a like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal without too much problem I would hope. Ellis hasn't always been prolific. This season just gone is probably his best statistically by a long way in comparison to previous years. Finding a "like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal" that would be prepared to join us won't be that easy and "without too much problem" IMHO. There really aren't that many about. I can think of one or two in this country, but no guarantees they would be a success. I hope Pirate that they are,...um.......black.?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 15:43:31 GMT
Could we get two or three good players with the money in today's market? Eisa is a good player in the league below and Cheltenham have rejected at least two £1mil bids for him. Think they are in a similar situation. Eisa considered one of their star men and they have put a label on him. I don't think all clubs would be demanding 1 million for player in league 2, you just get exceptions. Personally if we had to lose any if our players this season then I would prefer Harrison to the likes of Sercombe. DC could find a like minded, fairly pacey player and an eye for goal without too much problem I would hope. Ellis hasn't always been prolific. This season just gone is probably his best statistically by a long way in comparison to previous years. They might be easy to find on a computer game but I don't think it would easy in reality. In any event have we ever in our history completely reinvested big transfer fees received.
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Post by socrates on Jul 20, 2018 16:34:27 GMT
As I've said before it is a million+ we would be daft to say no really. We could sign 2 or 3 good players with that money. I would expect it to be invested back into the side immediately too, not make do with players on frees. It’ll be interesting to see what we do with the money next time we do sell a player for a large fee as it hasn’t happened yet under the new regime. We sold a hell of a lot of players in the 90s for decent money yet our record signing is still Andy Tilson and he was a fraction of what we earned from players sold. When we sold Lambert we ended up getting relegated whilst quite often playing kuffour up front on his own.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 20, 2018 16:41:11 GMT
As I've said before it is a million+ we would be daft to say no really. We could sign 2 or 3 good players with that money. I would expect it to be invested back into the side immediately too, not make do with players on frees. It’ll be interesting to see what we do with the money next time we do sell a player for a large fee as it hasn’t happened yet under the new regime. We sold a hell of a lot of players in the 90s for decent money yet our record signing is still Andy Tilson and he was a fraction of what we earned from players sold. When we sold Lambert we ended up getting relegated whilst quite often playing kuffour up front on his own. Well exactly, I think if we are to sell him, get enough money and give DC enough time to find a player.
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Post by toddy1953 on Jul 20, 2018 16:46:48 GMT
Thanks for the Mamories Big Jock 😀
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Post by socrates on Jul 20, 2018 16:47:30 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see what we do with the money next time we do sell a player for a large fee as it hasn’t happened yet under the new regime. We sold a hell of a lot of players in the 90s for decent money yet our record signing is still Andy Tilson and he was a fraction of what we earned from players sold. When we sold Lambert we ended up getting relegated whilst quite often playing kuffour up front on his own. Well exactly, I think if we are to sell him, get enough money and give DC enough time to find a player. DC has done well in the market and with a million quid to spend I reckon he could find us a striker as good as Ellis and a left back as good as brown. Nichols has been his only poor signing and even his past record suggests that he might well turn out to be decent for us. Don’t want Ellis to leave but if it was for a million + and it was going to go back in to the squad I’d take it.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jul 20, 2018 16:48:10 GMT
As long as we got a fair price and Ellis did indeed want to leave, it would be unfair to block what could be potentially a once in a career chance for Harrison move to a club the size of the ones claimed to be interested imo.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2018 16:51:06 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see what we do with the money next time we do sell a player for a large fee as it hasn’t happened yet under the new regime. We sold a hell of a lot of players in the 90s for decent money yet our record signing is still Andy Tilson and he was a fraction of what we earned from players sold. When we sold Lambert we ended up getting relegated whilst quite often playing kuffour up front on his own. Well exactly, I think if we are to sell him, get enough money and give DC enough time to find a player. DC's had a nightmare though when it comes to signing strikers only Taylor, as a an out and out striker/No 9/10, has been a success virtually every other signing has been a flop when it comes to putting the ball in the net and scoring 15+ goals in a season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 17:00:51 GMT
Well exactly, I think if we are to sell him, get enough money and give DC enough time to find a player. DC's had a nightmare though when it comes to signing strikers only Taylor, as a an out and out striker/No 9/10, has been a success virtually every other signing has been a flop when it comes to putting the ball in the net and scoring 15+ goals in a season. The 15 goals plus thing is a bit of a myth though isnt it? Most strikers throughout the divisions get around 10 goals in a season. Anyone who gets 20 is likely to go to a bigger club. Anyone who gets 15 twice running is likely to go to a bigger club. Try making a list of all the strikers who regularly get 15 goals in league football that could possibly sign for rovers.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 20, 2018 17:07:30 GMT
DC's had a nightmare though when it comes to signing strikers only Taylor, as a an out and out striker/No 9/10, has been a success virtually every other signing has been a flop when it comes to putting the ball in the net and scoring 15+ goals in a season. The 15 goals plus thing is a bit of a myth though isnt it? Most strikers throughout the divisions get around 10 goals in a season. Anyone who gets 20 is likely to go to a bigger club. Anyone who gets 15 twice running is likely to go to a bigger club. Try making a list of all the strikers who regularly get 15 goals in league football that could possibly sign for rovers. Our strikers only get one or less a season! I'd snatch your arm off for a 10 goal man!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2018 17:22:33 GMT
DC's had a nightmare though when it comes to signing strikers only Taylor, as a an out and out striker/No 9/10, has been a success virtually every other signing has been a flop when it comes to putting the ball in the net and scoring 15+ goals in a season. The 15 goals plus thing is a bit of a myth though isnt it? Most strikers throughout the divisions get around 10 goals in a season. Anyone who gets 20 is likely to go to a bigger club. Anyone who gets 15 twice running is likely to go to a bigger club. Try making a list of all the strikers who regularly get 15 goals in league football that could possibly sign for rovers. So how many permanent signings have even managed 10 goals since we returned to the league? Gaffers hardly scored after he signed he signed his permanent deal, Easter, James nor Nichols have hardly scored, even back in non league the likes of Blisset and White were hardly prolific. Fans thinking DC's going to just go out and sign a goalscorer are living in dreamland. Although Ipswich are apparently hoping to sign Barnsley's Tom Bradshaw so you do wonder why Harrison has been connected with them.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jul 20, 2018 17:50:35 GMT
If we sell Harrison we can kiss goodbye to any chance of a top half finish in my opinion. We would need a like for like replacement but I can't see us getting one of similar quality even if we were to pay 500k+. It's no good signing a Matty Taylor either, we would need another player with Harrisons pace, power and aerial ability.
I've been critical of him in the past but he has steadily improved and last season was one of our most important players. Yes Sercombe was rightly player of the season but I personally think Harrison is more important to the team and harder to replace.
His power and pace give us an extra dimension. On his day he's unplayable. It's not just his goals, he creates space for others, he is the only player we have capable of playing up front on his own and he wins more defensive headers than our centre backs.
I guess every player has their price and if he wants to leave then we'll probably have to let him go but I'm still hoping we can persuade him to stay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 18:31:16 GMT
The 15 goals plus thing is a bit of a myth though isnt it? Most strikers throughout the divisions get around 10 goals in a season. Anyone who gets 20 is likely to go to a bigger club. Anyone who gets 15 twice running is likely to go to a bigger club. Try making a list of all the strikers who regularly get 15 goals in league football that could possibly sign for rovers. So how many permanent signings have even managed 10 goals since we returned to the league? Gaffers hardly scored after he signed he signed his permanent deal, Easter, James nor Nichols have hardly scored, even back in non league the likes of Blisset and White were hardly prolific. Fans thinking DC's going to just go out and sign a goalscorer are living in dreamland. Although Ipswich are apparently hoping to sign Barnsley's Tom Bradshaw so you do wonder why Harrison has been connected with them. Thats a fair point of course but on a positive note we only play with 1 out and out striker and under dc have always scored goals from midfield. I just hope we hang on to ellis full stop.
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Post by aforce on Jul 20, 2018 20:38:03 GMT
We need to keep Harrison as it seems even this year Darrell has not spent a single penny on players. It seems that allowance for players transfers is on its knees, shame really as every season we make a profit on transfer fees and see no return
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2018 21:18:25 GMT
We need to keep Harrison as it seems even this year Darrell has not spent a single penny on players. It seems that allowance for players transfers is on its knees, shame really as every season we make a profit on transfer fees and see no return That's nonsense when DC signed Partington, possibly Burn, Sercs, Nichols and Mensah having paid transfer fees, plus I assume Upson & Rodman, possibly Reilly, may have received signing on bonuses this summer, the crunch is really who we now bring in for Gaffers.
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