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Post by singupgas on Jul 25, 2018 9:09:36 GMT
Nothing to do with Higgs, part of the deal of the sale of the club was the guarantee to sign off on the new stadium. Hani assured the old board that the finance was in place as was the desire to get it built. They had the full SP on the stadium plans from the outset obstacles included. Every one of the old board members I have spoken to regarding the stadium told exactly the same story. The Higgs model could well have worked but the ALQs wanted significant changes to the design, what was going to be built (they wanted a hotel) and then the contractual financials. Even plans were redrawn on the UWE site. What Hamer should have said is we have seen the existing model, it is close to finalisation subject to any changes the new ownership may or may not want to make. So blame Hani for backing us out of the UWE as he’s the one that seems to be pulling the plug on the finances. Exactly what he has done with the training facility. Wanted a £10-12m academy for £2.5m. If Higgs and Co were so confident that UWE would work why were they so desperate to get out? Because after Sainsbury pulled out they ddint have the money to pay for it and all the legal action i imagine. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 25, 2018 9:14:43 GMT
Nothing to do with Higgs, part of the deal of the sale of the club was the guarantee to sign off on the new stadium. Hani assured the old board that the finance was in place as was the desire to get it built. They had the full SP on the stadium plans from the outset obstacles included. Every one of the old board members I have spoken to regarding the stadium told exactly the same story. The Higgs model could well have worked but the ALQs wanted significant changes to the design, what was going to be built (they wanted a hotel) and then the contractual financials. Even plans were redrawn on the UWE site. What Hamer should have said is we have seen the existing model, it is close to finalisation subject to any changes the new ownership may or may not want to make. So blame Hani for backing us out of the UWE as he’s the one that seems to be pulling the plug on the finances. Exactly what he has done with the training facility. Wanted a £10-12m academy for £2.5m. If Higgs and Co were so confident that UWE would work why were they so desperate to get out? Higgs got fed up with bank rolling it and wanted out as chairman but didn’t want to be the custodian and have someone else run it. His plan was always to walk away after the UWE was built. Without the capital to build that himself he didn’t want to take it further. As he said at the time, the ALQs were the best ones to take the club further. No one else could raise the capital to take it on the old board either. |
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 25, 2018 9:30:46 GMT
Apparently the Duke of York was gay, he had 10000 men 😗 That's one a day for 27 years. I'm surprised he had the energy to get up that hill to be honest. I didn't realise you could 'like' your own comments! That might explain a lot! |
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Post by Squiffy on Jul 25, 2018 9:38:26 GMT
The landing lights comment really doesn't bother me at all, I totally get that he may have believed that to be the case at the time. The one that really irks is the crazy gang comment. He was under no pressure to say that and god only knows what he was thinking when he came up with that out of the blue in that interview. Has to be one of the most random and yet humiliating statements a board member has made about our club in my living history. The bloke's meant to be championing our club, not demeaning it. I can only think that he has a tendency to do a Donald Trump and occasionally just panic and go off-script without warning no matter how well he has been briefed. Although that begs the question as to why he is being put in front of the camera in the first place if he's not up to the job. For balance, Wael appears significantly more measured and sensible in front of the camera - rightly or wrongly I take his word at face value when I hear it. I’m sure he was just using the old Wimbledon FC as an example of a club that had spent most of its history outside the top flight but which, at a certain point in time, had become greater than the sum of its parts and reached a level of achievement which nobody had thought possible. I just think he saw parallels with manager’s ability, the team’s work ethic and “never say die” attitude coupled with a passionate fan base. I don’t think he was implying that we are all bunch of nutters.....but then I guess the evidence is stacked against us! 😂 |
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jul 25, 2018 10:18:54 GMT
The landing lights comment really doesn't bother me at all, I totally get that he may have believed that to be the case at the time. The one that really irks is the crazy gang comment. He was under no pressure to say that and god only knows what he was thinking when he came up with that out of the blue in that interview. Has to be one of the most random and yet humiliating statements a board member has made about our club in my living history. The bloke's meant to be championing our club, not demeaning it. I can only think that he has a tendency to do a Donald Trump and occasionally just panic and go off-script without warning no matter how well he has been briefed. Although that begs the question as to why he is being put in front of the camera in the first place if he's not up to the job. For balance, Wael appears significantly more measured and sensible in front of the camera - rightly or wrongly I take his word at face value when I hear it. I’m sure he was just using the old Wimbledon FC as an example of a club that had spent most of its history outside the top flight but which, at a certain point in time, had become greater than the sum of its parts and reached a level of achievement which nobody had thought possible. I just think he saw parallels with manager’s ability, the team’s work ethic and “never say die” attitude coupled with a passionate fan base. I don’t think he was implying that we are all bunch of nutters.....but then I guess the evidence is stacked against us! 😂 Maybe. But the context was that the UWE had just fallen through and we were all ears to hear the club's new plans for a stadium in place of the UWE project. And Hamer comes out telling us we're actually just going to be a tiny club with a crappy run down stadium, minimal expenditure on players but that somehow gets a million to one shot and ends up punching massively above our weight. Yes, I'm overly paraphrasing there but isn't that pretty much what Wimbledon were back in the day? So basically he's telling us we've pulled out of UWE and we've got no other plans in place but we're kind of hoping to get lucky coz DC's a good man-manager. That's how I read it anyway. There was a vacuum of information on our infrastructure plans going forward at that point (still is!) and the plan he puts forward is that we're hoping we win the lottery. Maybe it's just me being over-critical but I found it cringeworthy and demeaning. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 25, 2018 10:18:57 GMT
If Higgs and Co were so confident that UWE would work why were they so desperate to get out? Higgs got fed up with bank rolling it and wanted out as chairman but didn’t want to be the custodian and have someone else run it. His plan was always to walk away after the UWE was built. Without the capital to build that himself he didn’t want to take it further. As he said at the time, the ALQs were the best ones to take the club further. No one else could raise the capital to take it on the old board either. That's strange as I heard the opposite in that NH was insisting he stayed on as Chairman until the ALQ's threatened to pull out! As far as the ALQ's being the best ones at the time wasn't the only alternative going into admin? |
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 25, 2018 10:57:55 GMT
It seems to me that because Wael "sits with the fans" and speaks in public once in a blue moon he gets away from all the Flak. SH is purely passing on what he is told from above. You could say that Wael came out and said the landing lights were on because that is the reality.
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Post by baggins on Jul 25, 2018 11:01:07 GMT
It seems to me that because Wael "sits with the fans" and speaks in public once in a blue moon he gets away from all the Flak. SH is purely passing on what he is told from above. You could say that Wael came out and said the landing lights were on because that is the reality. Who wants to give Wael flak? |
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Post by knowall on Jul 25, 2018 11:18:22 GMT
If Higgs and Co were so confident that UWE would work why were they so desperate to get out? Higgs got fed up with bank rolling it and wanted out as chairman but didn’t want to be the custodian and have someone else run it. His plan was always to walk away after the UWE was built. Without the capital to build that himself he didn’t want to take it further. As he said at the time, the ALQs were the best ones to take the club further. No one else could raise the capital to take it on the old board either. So with no money coming from the sale of the Mem - an extra £35 million or so was needed to be invested - the new owners were therefor entitled to decide if the model was sustainable. Also, while the new owners wanted to add a hotel etc to make the site more sustainable, UWE also changed the offer. Hence no deal Mr edmonds! |
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 25, 2018 11:48:54 GMT
Hamer is a sham. Have you seen him being interviewed?! Six figure salary for years. Crusty middle-upper class buffoon. Should be in today’s politic arena. Utterly shameful. This what happens when confidence breeding surpasses any real intelligence or natural talent. We then go and employ a CEO doppelgänger. These guys don’t need to know about football, they’re here to run a business. Why couldn’t Wael get a young gun divisional MD from a Dyson or Imperial with modern ideas?! Classy |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 25, 2018 11:53:09 GMT
Stop. Hamer time.
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Post by blueridge on Jul 25, 2018 12:50:06 GMT
Higgs got fed up with bank rolling it and wanted out as chairman but didn’t want to be the custodian and have someone else run it. His plan was always to walk away after the UWE was built. Without the capital to build that himself he didn’t want to take it further. As he said at the time, the ALQs were the best ones to take the club further. No one else could raise the capital to take it on the old board either. So with no money coming from the sale of the Mem - an extra £35 million or so was needed to be invested - the new owners were therefor entitled to decide if the model was sustainable. Also, while the new owners wanted to add a hotel etc to make the site more sustainable, UWE also changed the offer. Hence no deal Mr edmonds! Perhaps they've shifted their Hotel aspirations to The Colony site - which if approved will ultimately pay for and keep paying for the upkeep of The Colony 😉 All totally owned by the ALQ family of course. |
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 25, 2018 13:31:18 GMT
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Post by c4h10 on Jul 25, 2018 13:57:52 GMT
Thank you, Wael Travelodge. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 25, 2018 14:47:22 GMT
The ALQ's own the Four Seasons hotel in Amman, Jordan! Wael himself mentioned he was interested in the "two strips of land" at the UWE and must have çlearly earmarked them for something. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 25, 2018 14:52:01 GMT
The ALQ's own the Four Seasons hotel in Amman, Jordan! Wael himself mentioned he was interested in the "two strips of land" at the UWE and must have çlearly earmarked them for something. A camp site? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 15:26:48 GMT
Higgs got fed up with bank rolling it and wanted out as chairman but didn’t want to be the custodian and have someone else run it. His plan was always to walk away after the UWE was built. Without the capital to build that himself he didn’t want to take it further. As he said at the time, the ALQs were the best ones to take the club further. No one else could raise the capital to take it on the old board either. So with no money coming from the sale of the Mem - an extra £35 million or so was needed to be invested - the new owners were therefor entitled to decide if the model was sustainable. Also, while the new owners wanted to add a hotel etc to make the site more sustainable, UWE also changed the offer. Hence no deal Mr edmonds! In what way did UWE change the offer please? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 16:09:21 GMT
I'm confused.
Can someone confirm if Hamer is still gashead enemy number 1 or is it Tom Gorringe now
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 25, 2018 16:14:16 GMT
C'mon Weezie. It's still Hani (all day).
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