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Post by toddy1953 on Sept 5, 2018 13:37:55 GMT
On the other forum someone apparently spoke to the new CEO who said the Colony delay is to do with budget. If that’s the case how could we even begin to fund a new stadium? I thought the delay was due to legal issues? SH said a few weeks back the the costs had trebled.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Sept 5, 2018 13:45:13 GMT
Both sites have pros and cons, for me Filton is the better site, only problems being it isn't actually in Bristol and there's no solid plans in place. That area will be redeveloped either way so it's win/win for locals.
Temple Meads could be a really nice site in the heart of Bristol, if not it'll be more luxury, overpriced flats that us regular Bristolians could only dream of being able to afford.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 13:48:07 GMT
On the other forum someone apparently spoke to the new CEO who said the Colony delay is to do with budget. If that’s the case how could we even begin to fund a new stadium? I thought the delay was due to legal issues? SH said a few weeks back the the costs had trebled. SH was just trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. He said there had been three plans put forward, but the costs have risen each time so they didn't meet the budget. Seems to me, if you are asking someone to Project Manage this, and you ask them for a development proposal, one of the things you do is to give them a budget to meet?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 13:48:58 GMT
Both sites have pros and cons, for me Filton is the better site, only problems being it isn't actually in Bristol and there's no solid plans in place. That area will be redeveloped either way so it's win/win for locals. Temple Meads could be a really nice site in the heart of Bristol, if not it'll be more luxury, overpriced flats that us regular Bristolians could only dream of being able to afford. The bit where the Arena will be built is in Bristol.
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Post by lpgas on Sept 5, 2018 14:08:23 GMT
Just to be clear, he [Marvin] hasn't chosen to build at Filton instead of Arena Island. He's chosen to not build at all. Filton was, and still is, a pipe dream: No design. No planning app. No contractor. No roads. No land surrounding the shed owned by YTL etc etc. Don't go believing he's just moved it. He's killed it. After all this is Bristol, still in the dark ages and always will be. Great News for the Green Party
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2018 14:26:17 GMT
Budget issue does not mean no money. If I have £25000 for a car but I want a £32000 BMW I’m going to spend as much time browsing dealerships trying to find the closest car I can get to the BMW before splashing the cash. But would you spend 18 months looking knowing if you didn't make a decision then you'd have to get the bus to work when the lease expires on your present car?
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 5, 2018 14:54:43 GMT
Just to be clear, he [Marvin] hasn't chosen to build at Filton instead of Arena Island. He's chosen to not build at all. Filton was, and still is, a pipe dream: No design. No planning app. No contractor. No roads. No land surrounding the shed owned by YTL etc etc. Don't go believing he's just moved it. He's killed it. After all this is Bristol, still in the dark ages and always will be. Great News for the Green Party Not really. The green party backed the arena at Temple Meads. Specifically citing it's public transport links.
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 5, 2018 14:54:54 GMT
Both sites have pros and cons, for me Filton is the better site, only problems being it isn't actually in Bristol and there's no solid plans in place. That area will be redeveloped either way so it's win/win for locals. Temple Meads could be a really nice site in the heart of Bristol, if not it'll be more luxury, overpriced flats that us regular Bristolians could only dream of being able to afford. The bit where the Arena will be built is in Bristol. Nobby, just within the suburbs of Bristol. A place that will need stupid amounts of money to build the transport infrastructure to make it viable for an arena. MM made his mind up months ago with his skewed (apparently) financial report on the costs of building the bluddy thing; sooner he gets voted out by the burghers of Bristol the better. He is all smoke and mirrors; what will this "conference" centre add to the good and benefit of the council tax payers? On to Saturday and speculation on the likely result of our home game
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Post by lincsblue on Sept 5, 2018 14:55:11 GMT
View from Danny Cowley yesterday.......
We've made really good money throughout the rounds and being able to get to Wembley, and then having some of the gate receipts certainly helped the club and it helped us in terms of recruitment this summer.
The Checkatrade Trophy money and the FA Cup money has allowed us to be able to build our own training ground. We were training at a school and an army barracks [and] in between the two [we had] to travel out from our ground to training.
From the prize money we've gained in both the FA Cup and the Checkatrade Trophy, we've been able to buy a piece of land and build a training ground on it.
It's gonna be huge for us if we want to go to where we want to go and there's lots of headroom here at Lincoln, but if we want to achieve what we want to achieve, then to have our own training ground and be able to develop players individually, and the team collectively, is going to be a crucial part of that.
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Post by womble on Sept 5, 2018 16:01:36 GMT
At the end of the day, Marv went for a few beers and a nice holiday with YTL reps.... But that has nothing to do with him supporting them I assure you.
Bristol has always and will always be behind the curve when it comes to city planning... The Arena, should be built on the island, no question. but money talks...
and how do you want to fund the £100m plus price tag ? Fancy your rates to go up by 50% to pay for it ? That’s a red herring Henbury. Even the mayor acknowledged that the arena would pay for itself (the arena operators pay rent to the council, which covers the repayments on the money borrowed to build it). After 25 years the city owns the arena. Marvin’s scheme involves using public money to improve the access to YTL’s Filton site. YTL will own, and get the benefit from, any arena that gets built at Filton. Meanwhile 500,000+ visitors a year get dumped on the doorstep of Cribbs Causeway, rather than spending money supporting the city centre economy. Insanity.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2018 16:17:55 GMT
"From the prize money we've gained in both the FA Cup and the Checkatrade Trophy, we've been able to buy a piece of land and build a training ground on it."
So it doesn't sound like a training ground costs that much to build, as I doubt Lincoln earned £m's from just two cup runs? The mystery why we're seemingly making excuses not to build it deepens.
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Post by lpgas on Sept 5, 2018 17:47:19 GMT
On the other forum someone apparently spoke to the new CEO who said the Colony delay is to do with budget. If that’s the case how could we even begin to fund a new stadium? I thought the delay was due to legal issues? SH said a few weeks back the the costs had trebled. That's what happens when you appoint expensive consultants rather than a building firm and a turf company
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 5, 2018 17:48:31 GMT
On the other forum someone apparently spoke to the new CEO who said the Colony delay is to do with budget. If that’s the case how could we even begin to fund a new stadium? I thought the delay was due to legal issues? SH said a few weeks back the the costs had trebled. my house has tripled too,take so long doing things the price does go up Backward people running this club
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 18:47:03 GMT
"From the prize money we've gained in both the FA Cup and the Checkatrade Trophy, we've been able to buy a piece of land and build a training ground on it." So it doesn't sound like a training ground costs that much to build, as I doubt Lincoln earned £m's from just two cup runs? The mystery why we're seemingly making excuses not to build it deepens. No mystery Topper. The AQ's will not 'invest' any money into BRFC. We all now know this.
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Post by lincsblue on Sept 5, 2018 19:28:56 GMT
"From the prize money we've gained in both the FA Cup and the Checkatrade Trophy, we've been able to buy a piece of land and build a training ground on it." So it doesn't sound like a training ground costs that much to build, as I doubt Lincoln earned £m's from just two cup runs? The mystery why we're seemingly making excuses not to build it deepens. A little over £3M was Lincoln's eranings from their 2 cup runs
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2018 19:55:35 GMT
"From the prize money we've gained in both the FA Cup and the Checkatrade Trophy, we've been able to buy a piece of land and build a training ground on it." So it doesn't sound like a training ground costs that much to build, as I doubt Lincoln earned £m's from just two cup runs? The mystery why we're seemingly making excuses not to build it deepens. A little over £3M was Lincoln's eranings from their 2 cup runs The training complex will cost just £1.3m: www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lincoln-city-unveil-key-details-1503873
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 5, 2018 20:44:36 GMT
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Post by lincsblue on Sept 5, 2018 21:36:50 GMT
"From the prize money we've gained in both the FA Cup and the Checkatrade Trophy, we've been able to buy a piece of land and build a training ground on it." So it doesn't sound like a training ground costs that much to build, as I doubt Lincoln earned £m's from just two cup runs? The mystery why we're seemingly making excuses not to build it deepens. They earnt atound £1.2M by playing Arsenal at their place (45% of a full stadium) plus £760,00 in prize money to get that far Add on to that the £247,000 TV money and you are well over £2.2M easily Lincoln were also televised against Oldham and the Ipswich replay for £144k, minimum £2.34M but they also earn't 45% 0f the Burnley and Ipswich gates too Then you get the Checktrade money including a Wembley final.....goint to be closer to £3M
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Post by aghast on Sept 5, 2018 21:55:14 GMT
But we want something better than that, apparently, and also there are lots of issues with planning permission timescales on a site which already has permission. Apparently.
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Post by yatetown85 on Sept 5, 2018 22:09:06 GMT
I think it’ll be pretty decent if it’s at Filton, the Brab Hanger is huge, it’ll be like our version of the O2 and hopefully that’ll mean a multifunctional arena.
One thing this area has been crying out for is a decent arena to attract things like boxing/UFC etc, I think there is a massive pool of talent being wasted in the West Country because there isn’t anywhere to hold such events.
It’s not just about getting Adele and Michael McIntyre here.
I think the transport argument is null and void, as apparently the funding will go towards the infrastructure, the roads down to the M32 are better at Filton than in Town, with the added route of going up by the Mall and getting on the M5.
The Mall is also going to be expanded let’s not forget.
I know Bristol would benefit an arena, and honestly there’s no reason both couldn’t be done, Birmingham has more than one place, as does London and other cities.
Like others have said, I wouldn’t mind betting we’ve had talks with YTL about land, I know housing associations have already had talks with YTL so no doubt other CEO’s have.
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