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Post by South Stand Ultra on Oct 4, 2018 21:01:38 GMT
Also with the debts under Higgs there was nothing at the end, other than interest being accurde. At least with the debt now, there is something at the end to come out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:03:09 GMT
Also with the debts under Higgs there was nothing at the end, other than interest being accurde. At least with the debt now, there is something at the end to come out of it. Custard?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2018 21:09:04 GMT
Also with the debts under Higgs there was nothing at the end, other than interest being accurde. At least with the debt now, there is something at the end to come out of it. Perhaps you could enlighten us as what the hell is at the end of our present £15m overall debt?
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 4, 2018 21:11:19 GMT
I agree the Mem looks awful but I’ve supported Rovers since 86 and we’ve always played at a crap ground and I didn’t feel humiliated at Twerton I didn’t when we moved to the Mem with it’s 2 sides and no roofs and I certainly don’t now either. Also we alwsys created a decent atmosphere in the popular side and and likewise the north stand and other clubs fans take the water but most admit it’s got a decent atmosphere too. Obviously it’s holding us up from becoming the established championship club that we all crave to be but it’s never been any different in my time. Maybe Wael will convince his family to make more happen or maybe they’ll sell up who knows but I’m proud to support my club and proud of our history and our supporters who stood by the club in our darkest times. These times are nothing like as bad as those were or as bad as some make out. But yes things can change quickly in football, as we’ve seen these last 5 years. Great post socrates. The Mem is what it is but I’ve never been embarrassed about it. It’s old style, a throwback and probably not good enough now but tbh it’s all we’ve got so I’m glad the owners are making the most of it at the moment and trying to get as much income out of it as possible. And whilst it’s not over important, read what other fans say and most have a grudging likeness for it because of what it is, a throwback to a different time. I would love to be able to sit in a new ground one day but like many things in football it’s beyong my control. I’d love a new ground so we could develop into the Championship club we all know we could become. But until then I’ll do what I’ve always done, turn up on Saturday and shout for the team. I meet lots of fans and supporters of different clubs and I can honestly say most of them have real respect for us and some even know the Mem. The point is I’m never not proud to be a gashead. Perhaps it’s living in Bristol and having the comparison with the other lot with all their money that makes it worse for some Bristol-based fans. I don’t know but ffs let’s not be ashamed of anything to do with our club. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 4, 2018 21:14:35 GMT
I don't really understand what's supposed to have happened. If all it required was a meeting between the council and the club (and some of the SAG) then why did the council put out an official statement on the issue (if they did, that's what the post said) instead of just holding the meeting. Sounds like some people would rather blab to the Post than do their jobs. And it sounds like the BP laps that sort of sh**e up. I've been offline all day so when i get home from work i experience sheer joy of reading through all of this only to realise that everyone been led up the garden path.... So a complete non issue. Christ when they call it Bristol City council they aren’t joking are they? 😉 I suspect someone had a bollocking today or will get one tomorrow! UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:21:49 GMT
I agree the Mem looks awful but I’ve supported Rovers since 86 and we’ve always played at a crap ground and I didn’t feel humiliated at Twerton I didn’t when we moved to the Mem with it’s 2 sides and no roofs and I certainly don’t now either. Also we alwsys created a decent atmosphere in the popular side and and likewise the north stand and other clubs fans take the water but most admit it’s got a decent atmosphere too. Obviously it’s holding us up from becoming the established championship club that we all crave to be but it’s never been any different in my time. Maybe Wael will convince his family to make more happen or maybe they’ll sell up who knows but I’m proud to support my club and proud of our history and our supporters who stood by the club in our darkest times. These times are nothing like as bad as those were or as bad as some make out. But yes things can change quickly in football, as we’ve seen these last 5 years. Great post socrates. The Mem is what it is but I’ve never been embarrassed about it. It’s old style, a throwback and probably not good enough now but tbh it’s all we’ve got so I’m glad the owners are making the most of it at the moment and trying to get as much income out of it as possible. And whilst it’s not over important, read what other fans say and most have a grudging likeness for it because of what it is, a throwback to a different time. I would love to be able to sit in a new ground one day but like many things in football it’s beyong my control. I’d love a new ground so we could develop into the Championship club we all know we could become. But until then I’ll do what I’ve always done, turn up on Saturday and shout for the team. I meet lots of fans and supporters of different clubs and I can honestly say most of them have real respect for us and some even know the Mem. The point is I’m never not proud to be a gashead. Perhaps it’s living in Bristol and having the comparison with the other lot with all their money that makes it worse for some Bristol-based fans. I don’t know but ffs let’s not be ashamed of anything to do with our club. UTG! That’s exactly it Wareham. Whilst other clubs around us develop and excel, some still attract less home and away than us. That will garner respect but at the same time causes frustration at just what could be. I am firmly in the if results were better we wouldn’t be having this discussion camp. DC will turn us around this season and in the meantime let’s hope there is some good news on the horizon ASAP regarding our stadium plans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:24:49 GMT
Oh and your post in the other thread (ref AFC Bournemouth)made me realise that even if we get a new ground there will still be moaners galore. Especially on gas chat!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:26:03 GMT
I agree the Mem looks awful but I’ve supported Rovers since 86 and we’ve always played at a crap ground and I didn’t feel humiliated at Twerton I didn’t when we moved to the Mem with it’s 2 sides and no roofs and I certainly don’t now either. Also we alwsys created a decent atmosphere in the popular side and and likewise the north stand and other clubs fans take the water but most admit it’s got a decent atmosphere too. Obviously it’s holding us up from becoming the established championship club that we all crave to be but it’s never been any different in my time. Maybe Wael will convince his family to make more happen or maybe they’ll sell up who knows but I’m proud to support my club and proud of our history and our supporters who stood by the club in our darkest times. These times are nothing like as bad as those were or as bad as some make out. But yes things can change quickly in football, as we’ve seen these last 5 years. Top post. You are on form today Socrates! And you're right. For all the little things that we find to complain about, these remain good times to be a Gashead. This is a club that has not owned it's own ground for the most part, was effectively kicked out of Eastville, where we suffered a fire that destroyed the South Stand, almost went under, played at a non league ground in another city, played in the fourth tier for the first time before being relegated from the Football League... Not so bad now, is it?
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 4, 2018 21:36:32 GMT
Oh and your post in the other thread (ref AFC Bournemouth)made me realise that even if we get a new ground there will still be moaners galore. Especially on gas chat! Actually it’s worse at Bournemouth in a strange way. On Monday all around me the fans were having a great moan about no pace, not taking chances, not doing this, not doing that etc. One of my friends turned around and said we’re rubbish! Until they got a last few minutes pen to win 2-1 then they start talking about getting into the top 4. You couldn’t make it up. It happens every week, some of them really have forgotten where they’ve come from. It’s laughable really. Oh well, fans eh? UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:38:45 GMT
Oh and your post in the other thread (ref AFC Bournemouth)made me realise that even if we get a new ground there will still be moaners galore. Especially on gas chat! Actually it’s worse at Bournemouth in a strange way. On Monday all around me the fans were having a great moan about no pace, not taking chances, not doing this, not doing that etc. One of my friends turned around and said we’re rubbish! Until they got a last few minutes pen to win 2-1 then they start talking about getting into the top 4. You couldn’t make it up. It happens every week, some of them really have forgotten where they’ve come from. It’s laughable really. Oh well, fans eh? UTG! Yes it seems a no win situation for fans let alone an owner! Football eh? Who says money has/will/is ruining the game?
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 4, 2018 22:07:30 GMT
I agree the Mem looks awful but I’ve supported Rovers since 86 and we’ve always played at a crap ground and I didn’t feel humiliated at Twerton I didn’t when we moved to the Mem with it’s 2 sides and no roofs and I certainly don’t now either. Also we alwsys created a decent atmosphere in the popular side and and likewise the north stand and other clubs fans take the water but most admit it’s got a decent atmosphere too. Obviously it’s holding us up from becoming the established championship club that we all crave to be but it’s never been any different in my time. Maybe Wael will convince his family to make more happen or maybe they’ll sell up who knows but I’m proud to support my club and proud of our history and our supporters who stood by the club in our darkest times. These times are nothing like as bad as those were or as bad as some make out. But yes things can change quickly in football, as we’ve seen these last 5 years. Great post socrates. The Mem is what it is but I’ve never been embarrassed about it. It’s old style, a throwback and probably not good enough now but tbh it’s all we’ve got so I’m glad the owners are making the most of it at the moment and trying to get as much income out of it as possible. And whilst it’s not over important, read what other fans say and most have a grudging likeness for it because of what it is, a throwback to a different time. I would love to be able to sit in a new ground one day but like many things in football it’s beyong my control. I’d love a new ground so we could develop into the Championship club we all know we could become. But until then I’ll do what I’ve always done, turn up on Saturday and shout for the team. I meet lots of fans and supporters of different clubs and I can honestly say most of them have real respect for us and some even know the Mem. The point is I’m never not proud to be a gashead. Perhaps it’s living in Bristol and having the comparison with the other lot with all their money that makes it worse for some Bristol-based fans. I don’t know but ffs let’s not be ashamed of anything to do with our club. UTG! Good on you both. Happy clappers, tinters, whatever. . . Things aren’t great but ain’t that bad either. Life’s too Dam short. Enjoy yourselves people, it’s later than you think. . .
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 5, 2018 1:06:21 GMT
Just to confirm the two bits of open terrace can NOT be have roofs put over the full length of them because it obstructs views from the Dri Build stand, this is partly why the family burger stand had to be moved from its original spot and be made smaller, so I have been told by the club. Don't ever let the facts get in the way of a full on meltdown my a few people on here It was obvious from the start that the stand was going to block somebody's view and why the club changed the design to ensure nobody had a poor view
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 5, 2018 1:08:48 GMT
I agree the Mem looks awful but I’ve supported Rovers since 86 and we’ve always played at a crap ground and I didn’t feel humiliated at Twerton I didn’t when we moved to the Mem with it’s 2 sides and no roofs and I certainly don’t now either. Also we alwsys created a decent atmosphere in the popular side and and likewise the north stand and other clubs fans take the water but most admit it’s got a decent atmosphere too. Obviously it’s holding us up from becoming the established championship club that we all crave to be but it’s never been any different in my time. Maybe Wael will convince his family to make more happen or maybe they’ll sell up who knows but I’m proud to support my club and proud of our history and our supporters who stood by the club in our darkest times. These times are nothing like as bad as those were or as bad as some make out. But yes things can change quickly in football, as we’ve seen these last 5 years. Great post socrates. The Mem is what it is but I’ve never been embarrassed about it. It’s old style, a throwback and probably not good enough now but tbh it’s all we’ve got so I’m glad the owners are making the most of it at the moment and trying to get as much income out of it as possible. And whilst it’s not over important, read what other fans say and most have a grudging likeness for it because of what it is, a throwback to a different time. I would love to be able to sit in a new ground one day but like many things in football it’s beyong my control. I’d love a new ground so we could develop into the Championship club we all know we could become. But until then I’ll do what I’ve always done, turn up on Saturday and shout for the team. I meet lots of fans and supporters of different clubs and I can honestly say most of them have real respect for us and some even know the Mem. The point is I’m never not proud to be a gashead. Perhaps it’s living in Bristol and having the comparison with the other lot with all their money that makes it worse for some Bristol-based fans. I don’t know but ffs let’s not be ashamed of anything to do with our club. UTG! Absolute Quality post sir and reflects what most true supporters feel about our great club
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 5, 2018 6:26:19 GMT
They will probably end up getting looked at today or tomorrow and passed off. Don't particularly trust the Post to do much other than rake up sh**. 14 pages of gold. Still, nothing like taking any chance you can to stick the boot in. Faithful and true my arse.
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Post by peterparker on Oct 5, 2018 7:03:29 GMT
Sure, if you want to quote an example They must have a way of funding themselves. Exeter have just redeveloped two sides of their ground and Wimbledon have almost finished clearing the site for their new stadium back in Wimbledon. Perhaps Jim Chappel and his team could visit both clubs to see how it’s done. not entirely sure how Exeter manage it but some info here. www.exetercityfc.co.uk/news/2017/april/report-exeter-city-afc-shareholders-agm-feedback/
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Three recent board away days have focused on the variety of issues that need to be faced head-on. This includes a business plan born out of budget projections for the next five years. The elephant in the room is collectively (club, shareholders and supporters) deciding what our long-term vision is. The club board’s ambition is now being crystallised for the Trust to address.
Those decisions will guide our final plan:
1…revisit appropriateness of Deloitte Drivas Jonas recommendation from 10 years ago to stay at SJP; 2…change the model is an option to attract investment but is unacceptable to the club board; 3…keep the status quo and risk falling behind.
as for their redevelopment plans
The project began with a feasibility study in 2006, which led to a planning proposal in 2011. This was unfortunately aborted following a number of problems. The current scheme, with developer partner Yelverton Properties Developments Ltd, was instigated in 2014. It has overcome many setbacks and delays, including two substantial legal challenges.
The Old Grandstand, which was built in 1926 and is owned by Exeter City Council, would have needed extensive repairs, and possibly faced permanent closure in the future if it had failed an inspection by the Safety Advisory Group (the organisation responsible for stadium safety). The improvements will cost in the region of £3.5 million.
The new stand will offer a much enhanced fan experience, with no pillars to obstruct the view and vastly improved toilets and refreshment facilities. Exeter City Council has sold the freehold of the area of land behind the Big Bank at the club to the developer, who has also acquired adjoining land. Student accommodation of 312 beds will be built on the site.
Prior to this the club had leased the land (behind the Big Bank) from the city council. The club has surrendered the remaining four years of that lease to enable the sale of the freehold. The city council will use the proceeds of the land sale to fund the redevelopment.
as for Wimbledon, not sure how they fund their day to day stuff, but the ground
Wimbledon will soon start to search for a naming-rights partner for the new stadium, which will be just 250 yards down the road from the old Plough Lane ground where Wimbledon FC played. The club will help pay for the stadium with the sale of Kingsmeadow to Chelsea
Wimbledon are thought to be receiving around £5m. Wimbledon will also get a £14m windfall from developers Galliard Homes, who will build 602 homes, retail space and a squash and fitness club on the site. The club will take out a loan to finance the rest of the project.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 7:24:55 GMT
They must have a way of funding themselves. Exeter have just redeveloped two sides of their ground and Wimbledon have almost finished clearing the site for their new stadium back in Wimbledon. Perhaps Jim Chappel and his team could visit both clubs to see how it’s done. not entirely sure how Exeter manage it but some info here. www.exetercityfc.co.uk/news/2017/april/report-exeter-city-afc-shareholders-agm-feedback/
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Three recent board away days have focused on the variety of issues that need to be faced head-on. This includes a business plan born out of budget projections for the next five years. The elephant in the room is collectively (club, shareholders and supporters) deciding what our long-term vision is. The club board’s ambition is now being crystallised for the Trust to address.
Those decisions will guide our final plan:
1…revisit appropriateness of Deloitte Drivas Jonas recommendation from 10 years ago to stay at SJP; 2…change the model is an option to attract investment but is unacceptable to the club board; 3…keep the status quo and risk falling behind.
as for their redevelopment plans
The project began with a feasibility study in 2006, which led to a planning proposal in 2011. This was unfortunately aborted following a number of problems. The current scheme, with developer partner Yelverton Properties Developments Ltd, was instigated in 2014. It has overcome many setbacks and delays, including two substantial legal challenges.
The Old Grandstand, which was built in 1926 and is owned by Exeter City Council, would have needed extensive repairs, and possibly faced permanent closure in the future if it had failed an inspection by the Safety Advisory Group (the organisation responsible for stadium safety). The improvements will cost in the region of £3.5 million.
The new stand will offer a much enhanced fan experience, with no pillars to obstruct the view and vastly improved toilets and refreshment facilities. Exeter City Council has sold the freehold of the area of land behind the Big Bank at the club to the developer, who has also acquired adjoining land. Student accommodation of 312 beds will be built on the site.
Prior to this the club had leased the land (behind the Big Bank) from the city council. The club has surrendered the remaining four years of that lease to enable the sale of the freehold. The city council will use the proceeds of the land sale to fund the redevelopment.
as for Wimbledon, not sure how they fund their day to day stuff, but the ground
Wimbledon will soon start to search for a naming-rights partner for the new stadium, which will be just 250 yards down the road from the old Plough Lane ground where Wimbledon FC played. The club will help pay for the stadium with the sale of Kingsmeadow to Chelsea
Wimbledon are thought to be receiving around £5m. Wimbledon will also get a £14m windfall from developers Galliard Homes, who will build 602 homes, retail space and a squash and fitness club on the site. The club will take out a loan to finance the rest of the project.
Thank you Simon
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2018 7:30:08 GMT
So for £5m from Kingsmeadow and £14m form Galliard Homes they are building a new stadium with a loan, I assume that means they presently have no, or limited, debts? That's what gets me about Wael, why as he run up £6m+ of extra debts in just 3 year thereby losing virtually all the equity we had in the Mem.
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Post by gasbath on Oct 5, 2018 8:27:32 GMT
Update All stands are in operation for tomorrow and going forward apparently the evil post stirring the pot !
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 5, 2018 8:39:35 GMT
Update All stands are in operation for tomorrow and going forward apparently the evil post stirring the pot ! Shocking...
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 5, 2018 8:49:03 GMT
Oh and your post in the other thread (ref AFC Bournemouth)made me realise that even if we get a new ground there will still be moaners galore. Especially on gas chat! Actually it’s worse at Bournemouth in a strange way. On Monday all around me the fans were having a great moan about no pace, not taking chances, not doing this, not doing that etc. One of my friends turned around and said we’re rubbish! Until they got a last few minutes pen to win 2-1 then they start talking about getting into the top 4. You couldn’t make it up. It happens every week, some of them really have forgotten where they’ve come from. It’s laughable really. Oh well, fans eh? UTG! Indeed, and some of our fans have forgotten where we have come from too.
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