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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 13:36:15 GMT
This is all very well and good but wheres the evidence the 82ers are not a bunch of lady gardens
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2018 13:37:32 GMT
Where's the evidence they CANNOT write off our debt ? No no no, you started it, you can't make an assertion and then refuse to back it up, without losing the argument.
I can fly!
Where's the evidence you can fly?
Where's the evidence I CANNOT fly etc etc etc
You have to look at their combined assets of the family to prove they COULD write it off, if they choose not too is another question. I have the ability to pay off my mortgage on my house but choose not to because that money is better used elsewhere |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 2, 2018 13:42:13 GMT
Where's the evidence that the ALQ's can just write off £10m/15m? Where's the evidence they CANNOT write off our debt ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 13:54:38 GMT
Will be really interesting to see how much the big capital investment in their stadium impacts their P&L next fiscal year. A good pointer for us.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 2, 2018 14:18:22 GMT
All that money spent on their team and they make fun of us being one league below them! water poor they haven't made it to the Prem by now tbh. If it wasn't for a Chelsea player we could have had a Bristol Derby last season. I think many of them forget they can easily drop down like far bigger clubs have done. True, if it weren't for Tammy carrying them, they be in league 1. BUT... we have to start doing more ourselves, i am not one to hope they get relegated, i want Bristol Rovers to pull their fingers out thier ass and aspire to be in the championship.
Cant we hope for both? 
We wont do anything without serious cash injection and that includes a new stadium. Yo-yo'ing between L1 and L2 is the best we can hope for as things stand.
The only difference between Rovers and City is SL.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 14:21:49 GMT
Will be really interesting to see how much the big capital investment in their stadium impacts their P&L next fiscal year. A good pointer for us. It's chicken-feed to SL. 20 million, at a rough guess, is about three months worth of interest on his capital. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 14:34:38 GMT
Will be really interesting to see how much the big capital investment in their stadium impacts their P&L next fiscal year. A good pointer for us. It's chicken-feed to SL. 20 million, at a rough guess, is about three months worth of interest on his capital. Perhaps But from a stand alone ROI it will be interesting. |
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Post by socrates on Nov 2, 2018 14:38:46 GMT
This is all very well and good but wheres the evidence the 82ers are not a bunch of lady gardens There isn’t any. |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 2, 2018 14:52:46 GMT
True, if it weren't for Tammy carrying them, they be in league 1. BUT... we have to start doing more ourselves, i am not one to hope they get relegated, i want Bristol Rovers to pull their fingers out thier ass and aspire to be in the championship.
Cant we hope for both?
We wont do anything without serious cash injection and that includes a new stadium. Yo-yo'ing between L1 and L2 is the best we can hope for as things stand.
The only difference between Rovers and City is SL.
Yup, and exactly why we need a takeover to happen. We arent building anything with the ALQs in charge. |
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Post by womble on Nov 2, 2018 15:19:14 GMT
They can write that debt off tomorrow if they wanted to. One of the advantages of not writing off all the debt, is that it prevents anyone from bidding to acquire the club. When they looked likely relegation candidates and there were anti-Lansdown rumblings amongst some of their fan base, SL is effectively bullet proof as clearing the outstanding debt to him, plus the acquisition cost of the club, makes any takeover a non-starter. |
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 2, 2018 15:25:36 GMT
They can write that debt off tomorrow if they wanted to. One of the advantages of not writing off all the debt, is that it prevents anyone from bidding to acquire the club. When they looked likely relegation candidates and there were anti-Lansdown rumblings amongst some of their fan base, SL is effectively bullet proof as clearing the outstanding debt to him, plus the acquisition cost of the club, makes any takeover a non-starter. What? They aren't a public company, Lansdown owns them outright. He doesn't have to sell to anybody, no matter what they offer.
I imagine the main advantage is a reduction in tax via the interest payments, should City receive some kind of windfall and make a profit.
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Post by mjhgas on Nov 2, 2018 15:31:10 GMT
All this does is highlight that we will never hold our own at a level above where we are today.
Football at our level is about survival. I'd rather be in a lower league without the debt.
The days of dreaming about the Championship and beyond are long gone!
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Nov 2, 2018 15:31:57 GMT
Has there ever been a club who have spent so much but achieved so little? Them, MK Dons and Billericay have quite a lot of common.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 15:46:55 GMT
It's chicken-feed to SL. 20 million, at a rough guess, is about three months worth of interest on his capital. Perhaps But from a stand alone ROI it will be interesting. But you are only looking at ROI in terms of money. There are other 'things' that contribute to ROI. Why do you think the multi-national, huge company Fuson bought Wolves? They get a ROI, but they are not really interested in that ROI being in pounds are they ! PR, advertising, brand image, these all contribute to what is called ROI. |
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Post by tomylil on Nov 2, 2018 16:46:58 GMT
Will be really interesting to see how much the big capital investment in their stadium impacts their P&L next fiscal year. A good pointer for us. Depends how much goes to the club and how much might be hived off to cover the costs of other loss making Bristol Sport ventures like the womens football. However, the millions they raised by selling three players in the late summer plus getting litter like Engval off their payroll would much more than cover the reported loss even with their limited purchases. Like it or not, over 20,000 watch the lady gardens every home game and many pay £30 for the honour. That plus thousands of gallons of beer plus all the midweek events mean increasing matchday and non matchday revenue - for Bristol Sport.. Oh and Sky tv money of course. |
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Post by tomylil on Nov 2, 2018 16:52:09 GMT
Has there ever been a club who have spent so much but achieved so little? Them, MK Dons and Billericay have quite a lot of common. Sunderland.. Villa... QPR To name but three clubs who spend much more and achieve so little, unless promotion and then massive debt is an achievement We are talking recent past aren't we ? They were billy big bollocks in league 1 but that was still chicken feed. They have started spending in the past what, five years, and most of that isn't them anyway, its Lansdown's emporium of sporting excellence. Fact is, £20m to them is easier to swallow that £2m for us and that is a very worrying fact too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 17:04:55 GMT
Perhaps But from a stand alone ROI it will be interesting. But you are only looking at ROI in terms of money. There are other 'things' that contribute to ROI. Why do you think the multi-national, huge company Fuson bought Wolves? They get a ROI, but they are not really interested in that ROI being in pounds are they ! PR, advertising, brand image, these all contribute to what is called ROI. Steve Lansdown is retired I think and uses his personal wealth, not cash currently generated by Hargreaves Lansdown. So I am not convinced he sees value in personal PR, advertising or brand image. As an individual investor into City I am pretty sure he would look for the investment into the stadium to show a return. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 17:06:15 GMT
Will be really interesting to see how much the big capital investment in their stadium impacts their P&L next fiscal year. A good pointer for us. Depends how much goes to the club and how much might be hived off to cover the costs of other loss making Bristol Sport ventures like the womens football. However, the millions they raised by selling three players in the late summer plus getting litter like Engval off their payroll would much more than cover the reported loss even with their limited purchases. Like it or not, over 20,000 watch the lady gardens every home game and many pay £30 for the honour. That plus thousands of gallons of beer plus all the midweek events mean increasing matchday and non matchday revenue - for Bristol Sport.. Oh and Sky tv money of course. How the club distributes any gain is down to them. I am just interested in the gain itself |
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Post by kruger on Nov 2, 2018 17:16:45 GMT
I'd rather be in their position than ours, they have an owner that will pay off the debt, we have an owner that wont
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Nov 2, 2018 17:19:24 GMT
I'd rather be in their position than ours, they have an owner that will pay off the debt, we have an owner that wont point they have one owner we have a family who own us ie the family have all got to agree to put money in |
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