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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 16:52:43 GMT
When we are in a real mess, the fans rally. Picking stones off the pitch at Twerton, Raise The Roof, the Share scheme etc. When SL leaves, what is going to happen to City? His son took over for 3 months with the 3 Pillars speeches (or whatever) and almost got them relegated. City fans I know don't rate his son, so if tries to follow his Dads mantle, they fear it could all go Pete Tong. With City's fickle fans if they get relegated with large wages, they do a 82 all over again. City's fanbase may have the numbers, but they don't have anyone like Gordon Bennett, Ray Kendall, Steve Burns, Jim Chappell, the 50/50 sellers, the people who do their bit on the forums etc, people who devote hours unpaid year in year out and that is why they could soon be in real trouble. Didn't Gooch and Dolman give huge legacies to City and they messed it up. History could well repeat itself. Here's hoping.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2018 18:28:16 GMT
The Sh1!heads are all over this thread on One Turd. For anyone from there reading this with help from their support worker; we despise your plastic franchise club. Without the Lady Garden's money you'd be nothing, and when he gets fed up with losing money year on year and pulls the plug, we'll soon see how many fans you really have. What was the average post 1982? The low 4,000's I seem to recall. LOL it looks like we've touched a raw nerve not sure why they worry so much about what we post on our "North Korea" forum, I like the excuse for them having less crowds than us was because gates were down all across the country, I guess we must have been the exception to that rule!
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Post by downend75 on Nov 5, 2018 22:04:57 GMT
The Sh1!heads are all over this thread on One Turd. For anyone from there reading this with help from their support worker; we despise your plastic franchise club. Without the Lady Garden's money you'd be nothing, and when he gets fed up with losing money year on year and pulls the plug, we'll soon see how many fans you really have. What was the average post 1982? The low 4,000's I seem to recall.
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Post by downend75 on Nov 5, 2018 22:17:19 GMT
In 1982 city averaged 6308 and rovers 5397city were relegated into the 4th division that year and rovers stayed in the third division the following year city averaged 4723 and rovers 6195 in the league above in 1984 city averaged 7212 from division four and rovers 5535 from the third so looking at these stats not a lot of difference between both sides
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Post by poorblue on Nov 6, 2018 16:38:32 GMT
When we are in a real mess, the fans rally. Picking stones off the pitch at Twerton, Raise The Roof, the Share scheme etc. When SL leaves, what is going to happen to City? His son took over for 3 months with the 3 Pillars speeches (or whatever) and almost got them relegated. City fans I know don't rate his son, so if tries to follow his Dads mantle, they fear it could all go Pete Tong. With City's fickle fans if they get relegated with large wages, they do a 82 all over again. City's fanbase may have the numbers, but they don't have anyone like Gordon Bennett, Ray Kendall, Steve Burns, Jim Chappell, the 50/50 sellers, the people who do their bit on the forums etc, people who devote hours unpaid year in year out and that is why they could soon be in real trouble. Didn't Gooch and Dolman give huge legacies to City and they messed it up. History could well repeat itself. Here's hoping. SL has allegedly lost £135M in the last 3 years alone. Do I recall before that he issued shares of £50m to cover previous losses. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-news-smith-weimann-2185190
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 7, 2018 17:37:37 GMT
In 1982 city averaged 6308 and rovers 5397city were relegated into the 4th division that year and rovers stayed in the third division the following year city averaged 4723 and rovers 6195 in the league above in 1984 city averaged 7212 from division four and rovers 5535 from the third so looking at these stats not a lot of difference between both sides Rovers figures look fairly consistent across those 3 seasons. Big swing across the river, 4700 to 7200 , same division.... I’m guessing they won something and suddenly everyone’s City till I die or City as fck Chortle
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 18:12:46 GMT
In 1982 city averaged 6308 and rovers 5397city were relegated into the 4th division that year and rovers stayed in the third division the following year city averaged 4723 and rovers 6195 in the league above in 1984 city averaged 7212 from division four and rovers 5535 from the third so looking at these stats not a lot of difference between both sides Rovers figures look fairly consistent across those 3 seasons. Big swing across the river, 4700 to 7200 , same division.... I’m guessing they won something and suddenly everyone’s City till I die or City as fck Chortle Haha yes I think downend 75 forgot that was a promotion year! Didn't we average over 9k the last time we were in division 4?
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Post by inee on Nov 7, 2018 18:27:44 GMT
The Sh1!heads are all over this thread on One Turd. For anyone from there reading this with help from their support worker; we despise your plastic franchise club. Without the Lady Garden's money you'd be nothing, and when he gets fed up with losing money year on year and pulls the plug, we'll soon see how many fans you really have. What was the average post 1982? The low 4,000's I seem to recall. Lets hope so ,love the way the hail the 8 as heroes , they seem to forget the death threats and dog turd posted through the letterboxes of those players ,seems an odd way to hero worship someone
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Post by downend75 on Nov 7, 2018 19:58:13 GMT
Rovers figures look fairly consistent across those 3 seasons. Big swing across the river, 4700 to 7200 , same division.... I’m guessing they won something and suddenly everyone’s City till I die or City as fck Chortle Haha yes I think downend 75 forgot that was a promotion year! Didn't we average over 9k the last time we were in division 4? True but you seem to forget by 1986/1987 season rovers were down to 3243 nearly a 50% drop from 1982/1983 so goes to provewhenever anyone is doing well crowds inprove and viva versa
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Post by womble on Nov 7, 2018 23:25:07 GMT
Haha yes I think downend 75 forgot that was a promotion year! Didn't we average over 9k the last time we were in division 4? True but you seem to forget by 1986/1987 season rovers were down to 3243 nearly a 50% drop from 1982/1983 so goes to provewhenever anyone is doing well crowds inprove and viva versa But we’re not comparing like with like here. City have remained at Ashton Gate, whereas in 1986 Rovers had to move 13 miles to Bath and play in a delapidated non-league ground,
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 7, 2018 23:38:13 GMT
True but you seem to forget by 1986/1987 season rovers were down to 3243 nearly a 50% drop from 1982/1983 so goes to provewhenever anyone is doing well crowds inprove and viva versa But we’re not comparing like with like here. City have remained at Ashton Gate, whereas in 1986 Rovers had to move 13 miles to Bath and play in a delapidated non-league ground, He would know that if he was a Rovers fan 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 23:45:51 GMT
Bristol city are one of a number of clubs artificially propped up despite constant massive losses. Deep down city fans know this but simply avoid the issue. Bristol city minus harry dolman and steve lansdown = bristol rovers.
Sadly he has delivered the ground and championship football so it is a possible platform for actually staying in the championship or god forbid better.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Nov 8, 2018 6:11:25 GMT
True but you seem to forget by 1986/1987 season rovers were down to 3243 nearly a 50% drop from 1982/1983 so goes to provewhenever anyone is doing well crowds inprove and viva versa But we’re not comparing like with like here. City have remained at Ashton Gate, whereas in 1986 Rovers had to move 13 miles to Bath and play in a delapidated non-league ground, And in 1996 we had to move 13 miles back the other way to again play in a delapidated non league ground....
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Post by socrates on Nov 8, 2018 7:44:42 GMT
But we’re not comparing like with like here. City have remained at Ashton Gate, whereas in 1986 Rovers had to move 13 miles to Bath and play in a delapidated non-league ground, And in 1996 we had to move 13 miles back the other way to again play in a delapidated non league ground.... Yeah Twerton was a better ground than the Mem when we first arrived at the Mem that’s for sure. The Mem might be crappy but it’s much bigger and better now than it was.
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Post by tomylil on Nov 8, 2018 11:58:20 GMT
The Sh1!heads are all over this thread on One Turd. For anyone from there reading this with help from their support worker; we despise your plastic franchise club. Without the Lady Garden's money you'd be nothing, and when he gets fed up with losing money year on year and pulls the plug, we'll soon see how many fans you really have. What was the average post 1982? The low 4,000's I seem to recall. Lansdown is going nowhere so the debt is loose change like most other clubs at that level except unlike most, he can genuinely afford it. What will be interesting is when he pegs it and his spoilt brat son takes over. He is far more likely to spit his dummy out when criticised and f**k off to Monaco. Alternatively he might go balls out and spend whatever it takes to get into the Prem and stay there which his daddy is patently not prepared to do. The sad fact is apart from a few short spells they have always had more fans than us. In 1982 they got more than us although the following season we got 1500 more when they dipped below 5,000 for the only time but even though they were a league below us they pulled in 1700 more fans in 1984. The reason i'm saying this is that its a myth we are more loyal than that lot. Its total bollocks in fact. We are both fickle in the main, with a small very loyal fan base.
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Post by tomylil on Nov 8, 2018 12:02:27 GMT
In 1982 city averaged 6308 and rovers 5397city were relegated into the 4th division that year and rovers stayed in the third division the following year city averaged 4723 and rovers 6195 in the league above in 1984 city averaged 7212 from division four and rovers 5535 from the third so looking at these stats not a lot of difference between both sides Ted alert...
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Post by Icegas on Nov 8, 2018 12:19:12 GMT
I was speaking to my best mate who is a shithead about this yesterday and he believes that is not 100% all a debt that City have run up,but rather that some of SL's businesses have had a bad year so he has just transfered some of the losses onto Citys books so he can explain the losses as going on his hobbies, rather than having it on his accounts as having a bad business year to his investment partners?
I would find it very scary if I was an 82er if that debt is just from Bristol City,or Bristol sport as a whole.
But regardless,SL is never gunna call in those debts and pull the plug.City will go on like they always have done,running up debts again, and again and not paying them back like many other clubs over the years..eg: Swindon,portsmouth, Bournemouth etc..
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