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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 22:28:53 GMT
And can we also knock on the head the idea that the chuckle brothers are business masterminds who know far more about 'getting sh** done' than we ever will? They have really pulled the pants down of some members of the fanbase who hung on every word they said and in the end they turned out to be a bunch of chancers with no money, no plan and no clue in general about how to run a football club.
Although in fairness I don't think they ever pretended to be the Captains of Industry that some thought they were, they have never really spoken much about their plans and most of what we have beem told was said when they first arrived peddling a mantra of evolution not revolution....our very over-active imaginations conjured up the rest about this majestic family of bankers who had arrived to rescue us from despair with their wealth and business intellect.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 8, 2018 22:30:02 GMT
got to be done tho! Can’t wait to hear it! I doubt we'd hear anything for at least ten years after DC leaves. I imagine that the club and DC will reach a mutual agreement that saves the club a few quid and DC gets a reasonable payout to see him through. And both parties will sign, yes you've guessed it........a confidentiality agreement!! Maybe DC is being proactive and making sure any prospective manager knows the deal and won’t fall for a pack of lies.
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Dec 8, 2018 22:30:16 GMT
So is there going to be a protest then? Is anyone organising anything? Think it needs to be done, maybe a boycott of the next home game against Fleetwood? But would people actually not turn up in numbers? Needs someone to organise it, publicise it etc, some of that social media stuff I guess. People are not going to turn up in numbers regardless after recent performances - there's no need to organize apathy.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 8, 2018 22:54:30 GMT
So is there going to be a protest then? Is anyone organising anything? Think it needs to be done, maybe a boycott of the next home game against Fleetwood? But would people actually not turn up in numbers? Needs someone to organise it, publicise it etc, some of that social media stuff I guess. People are clearly already not turning up. Looked relatively empty today. And Gillingham. Trouble is that ST holders are counted in attendance even if they don't come so the published attendance will always be a decent level. The only real protest is when non ST holders don't come. That is already seriously happening, due to results and boring football.
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Post by z1zou on Dec 8, 2018 23:22:14 GMT
When I watch some post match interviews of under pressure managers you can tell they are just waiting for the axe to fall.
DC may well just be trying to save his rep by passing as much of the buck onto the owners as possible. But the guy still clearly has fight and passion like no other manager we have ever had. I listened to the full Interview and it makes me sick that our financial invesent is basically looking like we're preparing for league 2 football already.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Dec 8, 2018 23:24:25 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 8, 2018 23:30:07 GMT
There's a longer version on the Bristol Live site, but even that gets cut short before he uses the f word!
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Post by lpgas on Dec 8, 2018 23:45:22 GMT
To be honest they can sack anyone they like if it guarantees we stay up
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Post by Gassy on Dec 8, 2018 23:52:22 GMT
Reading this is truly alarming that this can/has happened.
For me, the biggest thing we now have to ask ourselves as fans is what are we going to do about it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 0:11:59 GMT
Just a thought, but maybe they only wanted to show what he had to say about today's game, as it is a post match report on the Donny match. I expect the media to report the rest he had to say, then question our owners or chairman about it. I wont be holding my breath though.
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Post by brfcgas on Dec 9, 2018 11:02:52 GMT
They absolutely must leave. Get out get out get out! I was just about holding it together with them before, but my last shred of faith in their ownership has now gone. They are an embarrassment. I'd like someone to give me some decent logic to tell me otherwise. Agree with this. Under their ownership there will never be a stadium or training ground and we will never surpass the current level we are at. We will keep going backwards. The fact the interview was cut short yesterday says it all. WAQ must sell up.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 9, 2018 11:18:28 GMT
They absolutely must leave. Get out get out get out! I was just about holding it together with them before, but my last shred of faith in their ownership has now gone. They are an embarrassment. I'd like someone to give me some decent logic to tell me otherwise. Agree with this. Under their ownership there will never be a stadium or training ground and we will never surpass the current level we are at. We will keep going backwards. The fact the interview was cut short yesterday says it all. WAQ must sell up. But there are no garauntees any new owners will do anything either. We havent had anything for decades, its just another day without those things. The club needs investment. No one can deny that, its been that way for a lonnng time before the Al-Qadis took over. Selling the club to someone else is all well and good, but ultimately the future depends on what resources anyone has One thing is for sure, if we get taken over by someone else, a lot of people who got over excited previously wont be doing so again regardless of if they have a bottomless pit of money or not and that will be no bad thing
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 11:25:33 GMT
Agree with this. Under their ownership there will never be a stadium or training ground and we will never surpass the current level we are at. We will keep going backwards. The fact the interview was cut short yesterday says it all. WAQ must sell up. But there are no garauntees any new owners will do anything either. We havent had anything for decades, its just another day without those things. The club needs investment. No one can deny that, its been that way for a lonnng time before the Al-Qadis took over. Selling the club to someone else is all well and good, but ultimately the future depends on what resources anyone has One thing is for sure, if we get taken over by someone else, a lot of people who got over excited previously wont be doing so again regardless of if they have a bottomless pit of money or not and that will be no bad thing Perhaps, fans should stand back and ask the question. "Why would anyone buy Bristol Rovers and invest, substantially, into it?" Don't answer as a fan.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 9, 2018 12:24:25 GMT
But there are no garauntees any new owners will do anything either. We havent had anything for decades, its just another day without those things. The club needs investment. No one can deny that, its been that way for a lonnng time before the Al-Qadis took over. Selling the club to someone else is all well and good, but ultimately the future depends on what resources anyone has One thing is for sure, if we get taken over by someone else, a lot of people who got over excited previously wont be doing so again regardless of if they have a bottomless pit of money or not and that will be no bad thing Perhaps, fans should stand back and ask the question. "Why would anyone buy Bristol Rovers and invest, substantially, into it?" Don't answer as a fan. We genuinely have the potential to be a much bigger club than we currently are. A well-supported perennial underdog in one of the UKs largest cities. An interesting back story with our Nicknames, a unique kit. These may be me being biased, I don't know, but for example as a leveller I also see clubs such as Oxford, Luton and Plymouth as having similar potential so I'm not as biased as one might think.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 12:47:37 GMT
Perhaps, fans should stand back and ask the question. "Why would anyone buy Bristol Rovers and invest, substantially, into it?" Don't answer as a fan. We genuinely have the potential to be a much bigger club than we currently are. A well-supported perennial underdog in one of the UKs largest cities. An interesting back story with our Nicknames, a unique kit. These may be me being biased, I don't know, but for example as a leveller I also see clubs such as Oxford, Luton and Plymouth as having similar potential so I'm not as biased as one might think. I see that argument. Would argue that as a base case myself. However, when you quantify that case in a P&L forecast, what's the return on investment? Sadly, it's generally zero.
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Post by baggins on Dec 9, 2018 12:58:03 GMT
Thought it was deserving of its own thread. Club have clearly told DC there is no plan for any training plan or stadium and they are looking to cut costs and invest nothing. They then edit this from DC post match interview in the vain hope that the fans wouldn't hear it presumably. Well, I wanted a nice thread all of its own to highlight their edit and to gather thoughts. What can be done? Edit: full transcript suggests DC is being told it's happening in the background but he doesn't believe it. I don't understand how the Club can censor something that isn't owned by us? Wasn't the interview carried out by Radio Bristol and therefore we have no right whatsoever to get them to censor it? Very weird either way.
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Post by mjhgas on Dec 9, 2018 12:58:34 GMT
Agreed Oldie - why buy today when we could be cheaper in 6 months time?
You'd have to extremely wealthy or stupid to buy a lower league football club. At least we have found out that our owners are stupid!
Football is dominated by money. Our place is slowly becoming bottom of L1 and L2. Money (or lack of) is killing the dreams of lower league football fans - perhaps what the Premier League want?
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Post by baggins on Dec 9, 2018 13:03:30 GMT
Agreed Oldie - why buy today when we could be cheaper in 6 months time? You'd have to extremely wealthy or stupid to buy a lower league football club. At least we have found out that our owners are stupid! Football is dominated by money. Our place is slowly becoming bottom of L1 and L2. Money (or lack of) is killing the dreams of lower league football fans - perhaps what the Premier League want? Don't set me off on the Premiership money debate.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 9, 2018 13:23:44 GMT
Perhaps, fans should stand back and ask the question. "Why would anyone buy Bristol Rovers and invest, substantially, into it?" Don't answer as a fan. We genuinely have the potential to be a much bigger club than we currently are. A well-supported perennial underdog in one of the UKs largest cities. An interesting back story with our Nicknames, a unique kit. These may be me being biased, I don't know, but for example as a leveller I also see clubs such as Oxford, Luton and Plymouth as having similar potential so I'm not as biased as one might think. Read the Accrington Chairman on twitter. Basicall everything is built on 'lies'. Mega rich chairman in the championship chasing the millions of the Prem. Clubs losing money hand over fist and only survive becuase of mega rich benefactors. Some might say, thats just the way football is. We need substantial investment just to be average in the foreseeable. What right do we have?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 13:47:43 GMT
We genuinely have the potential to be a much bigger club than we currently are. A well-supported perennial underdog in one of the UKs largest cities. An interesting back story with our Nicknames, a unique kit. These may be me being biased, I don't know, but for example as a leveller I also see clubs such as Oxford, Luton and Plymouth as having similar potential so I'm not as biased as one might think. Read the Accrington Chairman on twitter. Basicall everything is built on 'lies'. Mega rich chairman in the championship chasing the millions of the Prem. Clubs losing money hand over fist and only survive becuase of mega rich benefactors. Some might say, thats just the way football is. We need substantial investment just to be average in the foreseeable. What right do we have? We don't have any right. And that is why some have to get real and accept that thanks largely to a great manager we are currently punching above our weight. Relegation will be tough if it happens, but it will bring us to what is, sadly, our level in the pecking order.
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