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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 19:08:37 GMT
Thought it was deserving of its own thread. Club have clearly told DC there is no plan for any training plan or stadium and they are looking to cut costs and invest nothing. They then edit this from DC post match interview in the vain hope that the fans wouldn't hear it presumably.
Well, I wanted a nice thread all of its own to highlight their edit and to gather thoughts. What can be done?
Edit: full transcript suggests DC is being told it's happening in the background but he doesn't believe it.
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Post by Marshy on Dec 8, 2018 19:10:43 GMT
lady gardens!
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Post by thegasman on Dec 8, 2018 19:14:07 GMT
I heard it in full, this is what I sent some friends:
Anyone hear DCs interview? Has had clarity of way forward, 4 or 5 to leave in Jan to allow 4 or 5 in. Neither the training ground or stadium will be built in his tenure. Will be cuts over next 12 months no increased spending. Happy 'king Xmas to all the fans.(He didn't say that bit).
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 8, 2018 19:15:49 GMT
As said in the other thread:
"Just a bit of balance to add in, it probably wasn't our owners who made the call to cut Darrell's comments. I expect someone wary of attaching their name to the comments may have done it, whoever is in charge of the Youtube videos for example.
That said, I certainly wouldn't rule out someone like Hamer making the call.
Martyn Starnes doesn't seem to do anything so I wouldn't imagine it was him..."
Not a defence of what's been done, or even equitting them of any blame altogether. But let's not pin the blame on the AlQs when it could have been a club employee not in the corridors of power so to speak who is worried about their status in the club if they upload DCs comments unabridged
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:16:48 GMT
Sad day once you know with absolute certainty what evolution means in Jordan. I was a fool to believe but I did but not any more.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 8, 2018 19:17:46 GMT
They absolutely must leave. Get out get out get out! I was just about holding it together with them before, but my last shred of faith in their ownership has now gone. They are an embarrassment.
I'd like someone to give me some decent logic to tell me otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:17:51 GMT
Christ If this is true the club is unravelling as we watch.
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 8, 2018 19:19:32 GMT
Pretty standard for an in-house club media team to do this, HOWEVER, it still sucks and shouldn't happen IMO. We all know what he said, Ali Durden and BBC Bristol both tweeted the quotes, so why bother cutting the interview, especially when it's so obviously cut?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:20:10 GMT
Thought it was deserving of its own thread. Club have clearly told DC there is no plan for any training plan or stadium and they are looking to cut costs and invest nothing. They then edit this from DC post match interview in the vain hope that the fans wouldn't hear it presumably. Well, I wanted a nice thread all of its own to highlight their edit and to gather thoughts. What can be done? What can be done? Nothing, sadly. If there is no prospect of a training ground or stadium etc, then that is a subject of debate all in itself. But to cut it from the interview on the official site just about sums up the complete lack of leadership and accountability from the top that we are sadly becoming used to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:20:31 GMT
Disgraceful
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 19:23:36 GMT
Thought it was deserving of its own thread. Club have clearly told DC there is no plan for any training plan or stadium and they are looking to cut costs and invest nothing. They then edit this from DC post match interview in the vain hope that the fans wouldn't hear it presumably. Well, I wanted a nice thread all of its own to highlight their edit and to gather thoughts. What can be done? What can be done? Nothing, sadly. If there is no prospect of a training ground or stadium etc, then that is a subject of debate all in itself. But to cut it from the interview on the official site just about sums up the complete lack of leadership and accountability from the top that we are sadly becoming used to. I wish I had answers. If gates drop significantly their losses increase right? I worry sadly that they will sell the club even if it means ruin the moment they get their money back or they will let it ruin and sell the land. Could that happen?
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Post by oldgas on Dec 8, 2018 19:29:29 GMT
Pretty standard for an in-house club media team to do this, HOWEVER, it still sucks and shouldn't happen IMO. We all know what he said, Ali Durden and BBC Bristol both tweeted the quotes, so why bother cutting the interview, especially when it's so obviously cut? Exactly this. The official match reports are utter Shyte as well, bigging up the Gas and downplaying the opposition, the writers could teach the editors at Pravda a few things when it comes to censorship and Orwellian double-talk. I very rearely read the official club stuff because of this, it is in the main utter dog Shyte.
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Post by gasman on Dec 8, 2018 19:30:34 GMT
Bankers were only going to be looking after themselves certainly not there customers
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Post by lmgas on Dec 8, 2018 19:31:58 GMT
What can be done is to get the full interview out there.
Someone with a YouTube account needs to copy the audio from Twentyman Talks Back about 5:30pm and then post it on here.
We, the members of gaschat can do the rest by sharing said video on all our relevant social media.
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 8, 2018 19:35:18 GMT
Wael out
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 8, 2018 19:35:23 GMT
What can be done is to get the full interview out there. Someone with a YouTube account needs to copy the audio from Twentyman Talks Back about 5:30pm and then post it on here. We, the members of gaschat can do the rest by sharing said video on all our relevant social media. Word will get round pretty quickly now the quotes are all over twitter
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 19:35:27 GMT
You had a board meeting yesterday, what was the upshot of that?
The upshot is exactly where I thought we would be. Players will have to go out for me to get a couple of loans in, so there’ll be a few tweaks in January, so I know exactly where that is. I know exactly…
I’m being honest now, they try and tell me different, but I can’t see the training ground or stadium happening any time I’m manager and, for me, I think it’s the other way. There’s going to be cuts. You have to deal with that. As a manager, you sit here and go right, what do I do? I’ll do what I’ve always done when I’ve been at this football club, I’ll fight for the supporters. My efforts might not be good enough but I’m going to be in there, pitching, fighting, scrapping for them, to be honest with you. Like I said before, this club in the last 30, 40 years, has not had – the only people that hurt are the supporters. Until people say they’re going to do what they’re going to do and get it done, and build, the club will yo-yo from League One and League Two.
Listen, I’m saying that as an underachieving manager, I have a mid-table budget in League One and I ain’t succeeded this year, I’m underachieving. In the last two years I’ve had a bottom six, bottom eight, budget and we’ve over achieved. This year I’m under achieving as a manager and I’ll take that. My signings haven’t been good enough, without a shadow of a doubt I ain’t shirking responsibility, but it still needs that backing, pushing, facilities to move forward and we’re still in the same place.
People think I have a problem with the board, I don’t have a problem with the board, I just tell them exactly how it is, I speak to you guys as I speak to them, no problem. I don’t go and shirk away in the boardroom, I tell them it’s not good enough, the club’s going backwards. I said that to them yesterday. It is because we’re fourth bottom on the pitch but it’s going backwards because nothing’s happening.
All I say, and I say it to them, is clarity – the supporters of this football club just want clarity. They support you through thick and thin and they’re the only ones – the only ones – who are performing at this football club as it stands. My message to them is I’m defiant and over my dead body, I say it again. Players’ days off are cancelled, that’s been cancelled for a while now, they don’t have a day off, they don’t have a weekend off, and that will continue until they start turning it round and performing in a better manner.
You talk about money being tight and budgets being cut, is that something that will happen imminently?
I think it will be over the next 12 months but I have to deal with that. It doesn’t matter, the bottom line is it’s the highest budget I’ve had since I’ve been manager, that’s football, it’s a mid-table League One budget, we still have to overachieve to get into the top six, which clubs are capable of, I’ve done it for the last three years myself.
In League Two it was a mid-table budget, we got promoted, and then the last two years we finished higher than where we were. So that’s what it is, that’s where we are, that’s clarity. Whether that upsets a few, it probably will do, but I always think honesty, integrity, letting people know the score is the best way of dealing with it.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 8, 2018 19:38:23 GMT
Why are people so surprised??
Look at the evidence - - owners own 92% of the club and would love to own the other 8% if they could. - 92% means they can pretty much run the club as they wish, via a board they control - SC had 2 members on the board. New owners force them to reduce it to 1. - only had 5 board meetings since they took over. - use a paid Chair rather than using Wael - now inexplicablely also employed a paid CEO, with zero knowledge of the Chair, causing serious friction / confusion - employed a Commercial Director who has directly led to Stadium Manager leaving under a cloud and far more importantly the Head of Media resigning. Hed of Finance also left. - no gasheads left in the senior-ish staff. No-one knows squat about the history or ethos of he club. So we now get the club we (don't ) deserve. - DC could have gone to Leeds for a massive job & better salary - he stayed because he genuinely thought he could get to the championship with rovers , and be using decent training facilities and soonish be having a new stadium built. - owners did not like programme articles last season and didn't want at least one contributor to continue. In the end many left anyway after unhappy resignation of the programme editor / head of media. - there is no Head of Media now. Just one ok member who had been promoted a bit and a very junior member who has been upgraded a bit as well.
Why would you not want to employ an experienced head of media? I think you can guess the answer to that one now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:39:37 GMT
You had a board meeting yesterday, what was the upshot of that? The upshot is exactly where I thought we would be. Players will have to go out for me to get a couple of loans in, so there’ll be a few tweaks in January, so I know exactly where that is. I know exactly… I’m being honest now, they try and tell me different, but I can’t see the training ground or stadium happening any time I’m manager and, for me, I think it’s the other way. There’s going to be cuts. You have to deal with that. As a manager, you sit here and go right, what do I do? I’ll do what I’ve always done when I’ve been at this football club, I’ll fight for the supporters. My efforts might not be good enough but I’m going to be in there, pitching, fighting, scrapping for them, to be honest with you. Like I said before, this club in the last 30, 40 years, has not had – the only people that hurt are the supporters. Until people say they’re going to do what they’re going to do and get it done, and build, the club will yo-yo from League One and League Two. Listen, I’m saying that as an underachieving manager, I have a mid-table budget in League One and I ain’t succeeded this year, I’m underachieving. In the last two years I’ve had a bottom six, bottom eight, budget and we’ve over achieved. This year I’m under achieving as a manager and I’ll take that. My signings haven’t been good enough, without a shadow of a doubt I ain’t shirking responsibility, but it still needs that backing, pushing, facilities to move forward and we’re still in the same place. People think I have a problem with the board, I don’t have a problem with the board, I just tell them exactly how it is, I speak to you guys as I speak to them, no problem. I don’t go and shirk away in the boardroom, I tell them it’s not good enough, the club’s going backwards. I said that to them yesterday. It is because we’re fourth bottom on the pitch but it’s going backwards because nothing’s happening. All I say, and I say it to them, is clarity – the supporters of this football club just want clarity. They support you through thick and thin and they’re the only ones – the only ones – who are performing at this football club as it stands. My message to them is I’m defiant and over my dead body, I say it again. Players’ days off are cancelled, that’s been cancelled for a while now, they don’t have a day off, they don’t have a weekend off, and that will continue until they start turning it round and performing in a better manner. You talk about money being tight and budgets being cut, is that something that will happen imminently? I think it will be over the next 12 months but I have to deal with that. It doesn’t matter, the bottom line is it’s the highest budget I’ve had since I’ve been manager, that’s football, it’s a mid-table League One budget, we still have to overachieve to get into the top six, which clubs are capable of, I’ve done it for the last three years myself. In League Two it was a mid-table budget, we got promoted, and then the last two years we finished higher than where we were. So that’s what it is, that’s where we are, that’s clarity. Whether that upsets a few, it probably will do, but I always think honesty, integrity, letting people know the score is the best way of dealing with it. Thanks for posting this up.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 19:41:26 GMT
You had a board meeting yesterday, what was the upshot of that? The upshot is exactly where I thought we would be. Players will have to go out for me to get a couple of loans in, so there’ll be a few tweaks in January, so I know exactly where that is. I know exactly… I’m being honest now, they try and tell me different, but I can’t see the training ground or stadium happening any time I’m manager and, for me, I think it’s the other way. There’s going to be cuts. You have to deal with that. As a manager, you sit here and go right, what do I do? I’ll do what I’ve always done when I’ve been at this football club, I’ll fight for the supporters. My efforts might not be good enough but I’m going to be in there, pitching, fighting, scrapping for them, to be honest with you. Like I said before, this club in the last 30, 40 years, has not had – the only people that hurt are the supporters. Until people say they’re going to do what they’re going to do and get it done, and build, the club will yo-yo from League One and League Two. Listen, I’m saying that as an underachieving manager, I have a mid-table budget in League One and I ain’t succeeded this year, I’m underachieving. In the last two years I’ve had a bottom six, bottom eight, budget and we’ve over achieved. This year I’m under achieving as a manager and I’ll take that. My signings haven’t been good enough, without a shadow of a doubt I ain’t shirking responsibility, but it still needs that backing, pushing, facilities to move forward and we’re still in the same place. People think I have a problem with the board, I don’t have a problem with the board, I just tell them exactly how it is, I speak to you guys as I speak to them, no problem. I don’t go and shirk away in the boardroom, I tell them it’s not good enough, the club’s going backwards. I said that to them yesterday. It is because we’re fourth bottom on the pitch but it’s going backwards because nothing’s happening. All I say, and I say it to them, is clarity – the supporters of this football club just want clarity. They support you through thick and thin and they’re the only ones – the only ones – who are performing at this football club as it stands. My message to them is I’m defiant and over my dead body, I say it again. Players’ days off are cancelled, that’s been cancelled for a while now, they don’t have a day off, they don’t have a weekend off, and that will continue until they start turning it round and performing in a better manner. You talk about money being tight and budgets being cut, is that something that will happen imminently? I think it will be over the next 12 months but I have to deal with that. It doesn’t matter, the bottom line is it’s the highest budget I’ve had since I’ve been manager, that’s football, it’s a mid-table League One budget, we still have to overachieve to get into the top six, which clubs are capable of, I’ve done it for the last three years myself. In League Two it was a mid-table budget, we got promoted, and then the last two years we finished higher than where we were. So that’s what it is, that’s where we are, that’s clarity. Whether that upsets a few, it probably will do, but I always think honesty, integrity, letting people know the score is the best way of dealing with it. Thanks for posting this up. they lift enough of their work from gaschat I'm sure they won't mind
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