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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Dec 14, 2018 7:55:18 GMT
Let’s try move on them who going to be in line up ? Just couple ideas first make sure Payne’s on coach drop him back to Shrewsbury on way up ! They can have Nichols as well if they like !
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2018 8:30:43 GMT
It will be interesting to see if Coughlin sticks to DC's players or changes things around by using Development Squad players like Russe, hopefully he'll break up the Locks/Craig partnership and also give us some width.
Bonham
Leads Locks Braodbent or Rollin Kelly
Bennett Sercs Upson Rodman
Nichols Payne (or Jakubiak Reilly)
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Post by mjhgas on Dec 14, 2018 10:19:54 GMT
Given the success of Nichols & Payne why would any one play them on Saturday?
DC has fallen partly because of the lack of goals - these 2 should be left behind to do their Xmas shopping.
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 14, 2018 10:25:02 GMT
I'd personally like to see 4-2-3-1:
Bonham Leadbitter Lockyer Craig Kelly (please God not Martin) Clarke Upson Nichols Sercombe Bennett Reilly
Just my opinion. One game I've seen Reilly given a proper chance was Coventry where he looked very dangerous and scored a well-taken goal. Likewise, Nichols seems to drift out wide a lot and creates chances, Matthews and Rodman have flattered to deceive in their last few games so I'd go with the above.
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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 14, 2018 10:26:27 GMT
Bonham
Partington. J CLark. Broadbent. Kelly.
Matthews. Sercombe. Upson. Rodman.
Reilly. Jakubiak.
Injuries allowing
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Post by Gassy on Dec 14, 2018 10:57:06 GMT
Bonham Leads - Locks - Broadbent/J Clarke - Kelly Matthews - Sercombe - Upson - Roadman Jakubiak/Reilly - Payne
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2018 11:13:42 GMT
Given the success of Nichols & Payne why would any one play them on Saturday? DC has fallen partly because of the lack of goals - these 2 should be left behind to do their Xmas shopping. In the hope a new manager can bring out the best in both of them as they are both proven goalscorers at this level, unlike AJ & Reilly, regardless it's more about creating more chances given how few we created under DC. Although with Coughlin being an ex defender he may well decide to stick 10 men behind the ball and just leave Reilly or Payne upfront.
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Post by LJG on Dec 14, 2018 11:22:14 GMT
Given the success of Nichols & Payne why would any one play them on Saturday? DC has fallen partly because of the lack of goals - these 2 should be left behind to do their Xmas shopping. In the hope a new manager can bring out the best in both of them as they are both proven goalscorers at this level, unlike AJ & Reilly, regardless it's more about creating more chances given how few we created under DC. Although with Coughlin being an ex defender he may well decide to stick 10 men behind the ball and just leave Reilly or Payne upfront. Nicholls is not a "proven" goalscorer at this level. That's bollox. What is proven is his how ineffective he's been over two seasons.
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Post by kivorover on Dec 14, 2018 12:37:56 GMT
I'd personally like to see 4-2-3-1: Bonham Leadbitter Lockyer Craig Kelly (please God not Martin) Clarke Upson Nichols Sercombe Bennett Reilly Just my opinion. One game I've seen Reilly given a proper chance was Coventry where he looked very dangerous and scored a well-taken goal. Likewise, Nichols seems to drift out wide a lot and creates chances, Matthews and Rodman have flattered to deceive in their last few games so I'd go with the above. Reilly started at Burton and was very weak - although he did put a lot of effort in!!!
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Post by lpgas on Dec 14, 2018 12:50:08 GMT
Given that we will spend most of our time in our own half I'd play Jak because he is the only one we have with a bit of pace
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 14, 2018 13:02:30 GMT
I'd personally like to see 4-2-3-1: Bonham Leadbitter Lockyer Craig Kelly (please God not Martin) Clarke Upson Nichols Sercombe Bennett Reilly Just my opinion. One game I've seen Reilly given a proper chance was Coventry where he looked very dangerous and scored a well-taken goal. Likewise, Nichols seems to drift out wide a lot and creates chances, Matthews and Rodman have flattered to deceive in their last few games so I'd go with the above. Reilly started at Burton and was very weak - although he did put a lot of effort in!!! Aye good point, erased that game from my memory. FWIW I don't rate Jakubiak on the small sample size I've seen and I don't like Payne's inconsistent effort. I'd happily see Nichols in behind Reilly for a run of games and see what they do. No real physical presence unfortunately but 150% effort.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Dec 14, 2018 13:19:09 GMT
Just looking through the suggested teams, you immediately realise just how poor this current squad of players are. I realy hope I am proved wrong, although I do not feel we currently have a team of players who will beat Sunderland away. For me, apart from Sercombe and Bonham who have been tremendous, the majority of the rest have been below average, and Nicholls and especially Payne have been ****** awful (those two should be removed from any starting line up), That means for me, going on the front foot, 5 3 2, with Reilly & Jakubiak up top, playing off one another as a pair. O ye Craig or Lockenbaeur, not both in the starting line up. Utg
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2018 13:25:41 GMT
In the hope a new manager can bring out the best in both of them as they are both proven goalscorers at this level, unlike AJ & Reilly, regardless it's more about creating more chances given how few we created under DC. Although with Coughlin being an ex defender he may well decide to stick 10 men behind the ball and just leave Reilly or Payne upfront. Nicholls is not a "proven" goalscorer at this level. That's bollox. What is proven is his how ineffective he's been over two seasons. 2011–2016 Exeter City 97 (34 Goals) 2016–2017 Peterborough United 50 (11 Goals) 45 EFL goals suggest he's more "proven" than AJ & Reilly with a handful if EFL goals between them, regardless I'm not picking the team tomorrow so it'll be interesting to what the new boss does, stick with DC's front two or go for inexperience.As far as being ineffective is that down to him personally, or the way DC set the team up to actually create v. little in the box. Did James, Nichols, Payne & even Reilly all just lose the ability to score because they signed for us or for other reasons.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 14, 2018 13:27:17 GMT
All these different suggested line -ups - don't any of you think that the 11 chosen (whoever) you choose is so weak ?
We lack a commanding CH - who loves heading that ball back /out with a passion !! - then maybe he might bring the best out of Lockyer !? and we need 2 new strikers without a doubt - Nichols and Payne - just aren't going to score - would some of you give them 46 games to see if they can start scoring ??
Our only real goal-threat comes from Sercs and Ollie - they are the only 2 for me at the club who when they shoot I believe they might score.
Payne, Nichols, Bennett, Jakubiak - they haven't got it. Some of the blame has to fall at DCs feet as they were all his signings in the last 12 months or so.
The new manager - WE HOPE - can somehow wheel and deal and get these 3 players we desperately need or we haven't got a chance in hell of staying up.
UTG !
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Post by gasbath on Dec 14, 2018 13:33:35 GMT
Bohnam
Leads J Clarke Broadbent Lockyer THD
Sercombe upson lines
Jakubiak Nichols
lets go get us 3 points and give us a lift UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2018 13:36:48 GMT
"All these different suggested line -ups - don't any of you think that the 11 chosen (whoever) you choose is so weak ?"
We will know the answer to that at 5 pm tomorrow, in the meantime we have to live in hope that Coughlin can get an extra 10% or so out of them before January, CH wise Broadbent or Rollin seem commanding enough, they managed a clean sheet until injury time at Scunthorpe last season just DC wouldn't give them game time.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 14, 2018 14:05:15 GMT
"All these different suggested line -ups - don't any of you think that the 11 chosen (whoever) you choose is so weak ?" We will know the answer to that at 5 pm tomorrow, in the meantime we have to live in hope that Coughlin can get an extra 10% or so out of them before January, CH wise Broadbent or Rollin seem commanding enough, they managed a clean sheet until injury time at Scunthorpe last season just DC wouldn't give them game time. Fair play Topper, but were not just talking about Sunderland but what we can get/achieve across 46 games. This team have got 17 pts from 21 games !! We have 2 wins, 2 draws and 7 defeats from our home games - that's 8 pts out of 33 ! And that's all we deserved from them and the football by and large has been dreadful. We start games and you see the opposition doing what they want with us - we're just hanging in there. I'm afraid Topper, we might get some reaction tomorrow and when the new manager is appointed, but then things settle down to normal - these players haven't got it ( a relegation scrap at best I feel with 5 or 6 clubs being sucked into it being our best hope) - we need 3 new players minimum and prey Sercombe stays too if we want to pull away from the mire we're in !
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 14, 2018 14:10:20 GMT
In the hope a new manager can bring out the best in both of them as they are both proven goalscorers at this level, unlike AJ & Reilly, regardless it's more about creating more chances given how few we created under DC. Although with Coughlin being an ex defender he may well decide to stick 10 men behind the ball and just leave Reilly or Payne upfront. Nicholls is not a "proven" goalscorer at this level. That's bollox. What is proven is his how ineffective he's been over two seasons. Funnest post today well done !
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Post by LJG on Dec 14, 2018 14:19:51 GMT
Nicholls is not a "proven" goalscorer at this level. That's bollox. What is proven is his how ineffective he's been over two seasons. 2011–2016 Exeter City 97 (34 Goals) 2016–2017 Peterborough United 50 (11 Goals) 45 EFL goals suggest he's more "proven" than AJ & Reilly with a handful if EFL goals between them, regardless I'm not picking the team tomorrow so it'll be interesting to what the new boss does, stick with DC's front two or go for inexperience.As far as being ineffective is that down to him personally, or the way DC set the team up to actually create v. little in the box. Did James, Nichols, Payne & even Reilly all just lose the ability to score because they signed for us or for other reasons. Yet more Toppernomics. Exeter City were in League Two from 12/13 onwards. Tom Nicholls scored 1 League One goal for Exeter. He scored 11 in League One for Peterborough over two seasons. 13 League One goals in nearly five seasons: please explain how that makes him a proven goalscorer at this level? And no Reilly didn't lose the ability to score. He got two for the reserves last week and scored a beaut against Coventry. He has been on the bench where it is impossible to score.
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Post by LJG on Dec 14, 2018 14:20:28 GMT
Nicholls is not a "proven" goalscorer at this level. That's bollox. What is proven is his how ineffective he's been over two seasons. Funnest post today well done ! Would you be so kind as to give a response to the question I've asked Topper above please?
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