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Post by baggins on Dec 16, 2018 14:46:11 GMT
Really can't see it being Fowler. The wage demand must be huge!
I honestly don't think money matters to players like him.
Just have to look at Sol Campbell who took over as manager at Macclesfield, doubt he needs the money, but needs the experience.
He'll still need money to spend. Will Wael give that to him?
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Post by olskooltoteender on Dec 16, 2018 16:04:05 GMT
Whats your football reasons for that view? It doesn't have to be a football reason. He has clearly polarised the fan base which could result in some not attending matches. His unpopularity could also mean that he somes fans woukd be on his back as soon results didn't go out way which does have an impact on the team. And it would appear he's a massive bell end Every game would consist of a 90-minute-long chorus of “Shithead, Shithead” aimed at our own dugout - regardless of whether you think it’s right or wrong, no one’s going to do a good job with that going on, are they? It would be pretty funny though . . .
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Post by gaseous on Dec 16, 2018 18:39:47 GMT
Robbie Fowler is not what we need right now, no managerial experience, we are in the proverbial at the moment, we need someone with experience of managing otherwise me may just have kept DC.
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Post by aghast on Dec 16, 2018 19:18:16 GMT
Superficially it's flattering that a big star of the recent past is interested in us, but it means nothing. We're just available and we mean nothing to him apart from being able to gain a bit of experience.
If he came here and messed up, he'd be off like a shot with his fortune intact.
If he came here and did well, he'd be off like a shot to increase his fortune.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2018 19:21:48 GMT
Superficially it's flattering that a big star of the recent past is interested in us, but it means nothing. We're just available and we mean nothing to him apart from being able to gain a bit of experience. If he came here and messed up, he'd be off like a shot with his fortune intact. If he came here and did well, he'd be off like a shot to increase his fortune. Can't help but agree with this actually. If Fowler were to be successful here, it seems highly likely that the first better offer that came along and he'd be off. That's what was so unusual about DC, he had a loyalty that is so rare in football these days.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 16, 2018 19:24:36 GMT
Superficially it's flattering that a big star of the recent past is interested in us, but it means nothing. We're just available and we mean nothing to him apart from being able to gain a bit of experience. If he came here and messed up, he'd be off like a shot with his fortune intact. If he came here and did well, he'd be off like a shot to increase his fortune. Can't help but agree with this actually. If Fowler were to be successful here, it seems highly likely that the first better offer that came along and he'd be off. That's what was so unusual about DC, he had a loyalty that is so rare in football these days.and it is so heartbreaking to see that not pay off. The romantic in me seen him managing us for many, many years
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
Can't help but agree with this actually. If Fowler were to be successful here, it seems highly likely that the first better offer that came along and he'd be off. That's what was so unusual about DC, he had a loyalty that is so rare in football these days.and it is so heartbreaking to see that not pay off. The romantic in me seen him managing us for many, many years Same here , still Dam gutted 😢😢😢
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Post by Gassy on Dec 16, 2018 20:21:23 GMT
Superficially it's flattering that a big star of the recent past is interested in us, but it means nothing. We're just available and we mean nothing to him apart from being able to gain a bit of experience. If he came here and messed up, he'd be off like a shot with his fortune intact. If he came here and did well, he'd be off like a shot to increase his fortune. Can't help but agree with this actually. If Fowler were to be successful here, it seems highly likely that the first better offer that came along and he'd be off. That's what was so unusual about DC, he had a loyalty that is so rare in football these days. Whilst I’m not defending Folwer, apart from DC - isn’t every manager like that?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2018 20:30:25 GMT
Can't help but agree with this actually. If Fowler were to be successful here, it seems highly likely that the first better offer that came along and he'd be off. That's what was so unusual about DC, he had a loyalty that is so rare in football these days. Whilst I’m not defending Folwer, apart from DC - isn’t every manager like that? Yep, you're right!
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Post by peterparker on Dec 16, 2018 21:09:52 GMT
Whilst I’m not defending Folwer, apart from DC - isn’t every manager like that? Yep, you're right! Isnt that what Hurst did?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2018 21:12:39 GMT
Isnt that what Hurst did? Yes indeed. To be honest I think as Gassy said, almost all managers would leave for better things if they had the chance. It's criminal that DC chose to stay on the basis of imminent improvements to the infrastructure, which never even got off the ground in any way shape or form in 18 months since he signed his contract. Still, we've been over and over that one.
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 16, 2018 21:18:24 GMT
Are we actually talking about loyalty in football management? It’s not like working for Rolls Royce for 30 years, and getting a loyalty watch. It’s cut throat football! End of.
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 16, 2018 21:21:47 GMT
Isnt that what Hurst did? Yes indeed. To be honest I think as Gassy said, almost all managers would leave for better things if they had the chance. It's criminal that DC chose to stay on the basis of imminent improvements to the infrastructure, which never even got off the ground in any way shape or form in 18 months since he signed his contract. Still, we've been over and over that one. Whilst it’s tempting to believe he turned down Leeds (and others) because he loved Rovers, I’m pretty sure there was a very generous chunk of change involved, and over 5 years too
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 16, 2018 21:24:01 GMT
Are we actually talking about loyalty in football management? It’s not like working for Rolls Royce for 30 years, and getting a loyalty watch. It’s cut throat football! End of. Maybe now. It wasn't always like that though was it!!
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 16, 2018 21:27:29 GMT
Yes it has, there’s only ever been, a very small amount of loyalty
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2018 21:30:20 GMT
Yes indeed. To be honest I think as Gassy said, almost all managers would leave for better things if they had the chance. It's criminal that DC chose to stay on the basis of imminent improvements to the infrastructure, which never even got off the ground in any way shape or form in 18 months since he signed his contract. Still, we've been over and over that one. Whilst it’s tempting to believe he turned down Leeds (and others) because he loved Rovers, I’m pretty sure there was a very generous chunk of change involved, and over 5 years too I've no doubt they raised his salary nicely, and a 5-year contract is certainly not to be sniffed at. But I believe he saw in us a project that he could get 100% behind in trying to achieve what would be an unprecedented third promotion with us, and being the man to bring this club into realms we've never seen before. The crux of this was the infrastructure. Hence why he signed a 5-year deal to see these things through, in my opinion. Again in my opinion or should I say my assumption, he would have most likely been offered considerably more by Leeds, and also would've certainly had the opportunity to fast track his own career tenfold by joining probably the biggest club outside the PL, and one of the biggest clubs in the country. That's why I feel there's more to him staying here than just a pay rise and a longer contract.
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Post by Fat Albert on Dec 16, 2018 22:08:59 GMT
A lot of people seem to think DC stayed with us out of loyalty, and maybe he partly did. Let’s not forget though at that time Leeds were going through a manager every 5 minutes! No one could cave forseen their owner selling up and our ground falling through so soon after.
It wasn’t just blind loyalty that kept him here imo.
UTG
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2018 22:13:59 GMT
Whilst it’s tempting to believe he turned down Leeds (and others) because he loved Rovers, I’m pretty sure there was a very generous chunk of change involved, and over 5 years too I've no doubt they raised his salary nicely, and a 5-year contract is certainly not to be sniffed at. But I believe he saw in us a project that he could get 100% behind in trying to achieve what would be an unprecedented third promotion with us, and being the man to bring this club into realms we've never seen before. The crux of this was the infrastructure. Hence why he signed a 5-year deal to see these things through, in my opinion. Again in my opinion or should I say my assumption, he would have most likely been offered considerably more by Leeds, and also would've certainly had the opportunity to fast track his own career tenfold by joining probably the biggest club outside the PL, and one of the biggest clubs in the country. That's why I feel there's more to him staying here than just a pay rise and a longer contract. Absolutely agree !
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 16, 2018 22:37:31 GMT
Superficially it's flattering that a big star of the recent past is interested in us, but it means nothing. We're just available and we mean nothing to him apart from being able to gain a bit of experience. If he came here and messed up, he'd be off like a shot with his fortune intact. If he came here and did well, he'd be off like a shot to increase his fortune. Completely agree. In fact, I found his Soccer AM a bit weird tbh. He may well be clued into us as a club but in all honesty I expect he has minimal knowledge about our club, fanbase, demand, expectation, etc. To him, we'll just be another club to chuck a CV into. I imagine most managers will be similar but that's why I'd rather we go after who we want than let them come to us.
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