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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 15:02:26 GMT
I won't be going to the semi-final and/or final as the competition has been devalued by allowing so-called reserve teams entering. It used to be a valid cup tournament for the lower divisions and had some credibility then but has now become something of a farce. Having said that I won't condemn anyone who wants a good day out at Wembley - but imagine if it was us against Stoke reserves - embarrissing! But its not. Its us, Sunderland, Bury and Portsmouth in the semi finals. We are one game away from Wembley - something we have managed twice in our history? And you want to choose that rare event to make a point to the EFL hahahahaha I very much doubt they are listening - and seeing all the premier league clubs have already been knocked out - your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It makes total sense to those that are switched on.
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Post by Thatslife on Feb 26, 2019 20:41:22 GMT
But its not. Its us, Sunderland, Bury and Portsmouth in the semi finals. We are one game away from Wembley - something we have managed twice in our history? And you want to choose that rare event to make a point to the EFL hahahahaha I very much doubt they are listening - and seeing all the premier league clubs have already been knocked out - your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It makes total sense to those that are switched on. Has your protest had any effect in the EFL at all?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 20:43:01 GMT
It makes total sense to those that are switched on. Has your protest had any effect in the EFL at all? Very difficult to say. Either way I've taken a stand and my conscious is clear.
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Post by Thatslife on Feb 26, 2019 21:33:35 GMT
Has your protest had any effect in the EFL at all? Very difficult to say. Either way I've taken a stand and my conscious is clear. Your conscious is clear, ok I accept that but its selective isn't it. Your conscious does't feel guilty that you are letting your team down? That you have deserted them, that you have denied them your support? Or does your conscious ignore that because it's not convient? This is not a personal attack on you number 9, but about the protest in general being outdated and ineffectual now that the U23's are out of he competition and that YOUR team needs YOUR support not your abstention.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 21:52:12 GMT
Very difficult to say. Either way I've taken a stand and my conscious is clear. Your conscious is clear, ok I accept that but its selective isn't it. Your conscious does't feel guilty that you are letting your team down? That you have deserted them, that you have denied them your support? Or does your conscious ignore that because it's not convient? This is not a personal attack on you number 9, but about the protest in general being outdated and ineffectual now that the U23's are out of he competition and that YOUR team needs YOUR support not your abstention. It's not about my team though. It's about the future of my club and lower league football in general. I've been a season ticket holder for decades and supported the club in countless ways during that time, including financially. My conscious is more than content not to attend games in this competition because I genuinely believe it's not in our long term interests and threatens the essence of what makes lower league football so special. Attendances have been cited to evidence the success of the post U23 format and I'm simply not prepared to be a statistic in this agenda. A line has been crossed. I'm not prepared to sweep my thoughts under the carpet on this and passively be strung along with this change. The only meaningful way to make a stand is to not attend. You can belittle the impact of my non attendance all day long. I can honestly say I'm backing my principles and will make a sacrifice by staying in next Tuesday and potentially a Sunday in March. Can you?
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Post by gasforeverman on Feb 26, 2019 21:59:25 GMT
I respect those who choose to boycott the checkatrade and those who choose to attend the games.. Arguments on both sides are valid its down to how the individual decifers the wheat from the chaff....
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Feb 26, 2019 22:02:25 GMT
Very difficult to say. Either way I've taken a stand and my conscious is clear. Your conscious is clear, ok I accept that but its selective isn't it. Your conscious does't feel guilty that you are letting your team down? That you have deserted them, that you have denied them your support? Or does your conscious ignore that because it's not convient? This is not a personal attack on you number 9, but about the protest in general being outdated and ineffectual now that the U23's are out of he competition and that YOUR team needs YOUR support not your abstention. I’ve said this on about 5 different threads already but obviously you haven’t seen it so I’ll say it again. The under 23 teams being out of the tournament is irrelevant and therefore the protest isn’t ineffective. The EFL have previously used the argument that the 2017 final between Oxford and Coventry was well attended and therefore they saw the competition as a success. You may be right and boycotting the competition may make no difference, but if nobody turned up at Wembley then the whole competition would be ridiculed and they certainly wouldn’t be able to use that argument again. So personally, I think attendances throughout the competition whether u23 teams left in it or not will be used to rate the success of the competition. Therefore there’s no bigger chance to make this protest with a boycot than in the final at Wembley.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 22:05:48 GMT
Sunderland v Portsmouth is the dream final for the EFL .... two of the biggest strongest teams with the most loyal fan bases. They have played a winning hand for sure in this years competition.
Personally I think a Wembley final would be huge for us, our squad and potential to instil some confidence around the club and get us out of the drastic position we are in.
Sad for us to boycott our own teams efforts in the misguided belief that it will change ANYTHING in the football leagues plans for the future.
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 26, 2019 22:16:28 GMT
Sunderland v Portsmouth is the dream final for the EFL .... two of the biggest strongest teams with the most loyal fan bases. They have played a winning hand for sure in this years competition. Personally I think a Wembley final would be huge for us, our squad and potential to instil some confidence around the club and get us out of the drastic position we are in. Sad for us to boycott our own teams efforts in the misguided belief that it will change ANYTHING in the football leagues plans for the future. Simpler to say that tonights result has guaranteed a big crowd / game. Not sure why there is this inferiority complex over us, as against Sunderland. Both will take large numbers to a final. The match won't really be 'bigger' if they get there. Can't see how the EFL have 'played a winning hand' this season? What do you mean? They didn't help, or engineer, two of the best supported teams getting to the final.
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 26, 2019 22:20:53 GMT
Has your protest had any effect in the EFL at all? Very difficult to say. Either way I've taken a stand and my conscious is clear. Absolutely zero issue with your conscience. In general I agree. But I do find it slightly weird that people can have a clear conscience but also are prepared to suggest that those who have a different conscience / view are not switched on. I thought a conscience was an internal issue, not external?
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 26, 2019 22:28:37 GMT
Does anyone actually think we have a chance of beating Sunderland? After yesterdays terrible performance to go along with our terrible home record and the fact that we never beat the so called 'big teams' I would put us at a 100/1 chance for victory! Worst is, we will then be tired and loose the next league game! The league is far more important. In 1990, two days after getting to Wembley via the second [away] leg of the southern area final, Rovers then travelled to Wigan Athletic on the Wednesday for an evening league game, and won. They then won on the Saturday at home, drew at Huddersfield on the Tuesday, won again on the next Saturday, and drew at Birmingham city on the Monday. Bloody lazy those footballers were. 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 22:34:12 GMT
Does anyone actually think we have a chance of beating Sunderland? After yesterdays terrible performance to go along with our terrible home record and the fact that we never beat the so called 'big teams' I would put us at a 100/1 chance for victory! Worst is, we will then be tired and loose the next league game! The league is far more important. In 1990, two days after getting to Wembley via the second [away] leg of the southern area final, Rovers then travelled to Wigan Athletic on the Wednesday for an evening league game, and won. They then won on the Saturday at home, drew at Huddersfield on the Tuesday, won again on the next Saturday, and drew at Birmingham city on the Monday. Bloody lazy those footballers were. 🤣 Ah, happy days. And the point at Birmingham came from battling back from 2-0 down. I'd wager we didn't use many players either. What a team that was. The game is quicker now, but it's hard to accept that squads aren't prepared to take on that kind of workload.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 22:41:01 GMT
Sunderland v Portsmouth is the dream final for the EFL .... two of the biggest strongest teams with the most loyal fan bases. They have played a winning hand for sure in this years competition. Personally I think a Wembley final would be huge for us, our squad and potential to instil some confidence around the club and get us out of the drastic position we are in. Sad for us to boycott our own teams efforts in the misguided belief that it will change ANYTHING in the football leagues plans for the future. Also we don't want Sunderland and Portsmouth serving up a feast of passing football for the neutral and giving this competition any credibility. When we turn up and start our 'lump it to the big lad' nonsense people will switch off Sky in their droves so it's totally for the best we get to the final
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Feb 27, 2019 0:32:50 GMT
For the love of Bristol Rovers boycott
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Post by Gasshole on Feb 27, 2019 4:33:29 GMT
For the love of Bristol Rovers boycott Don’t fret, Sunderland have only lost twice in 33 matches. We will most likely get dicked. Hope I’m wrong as it could be worth half a million quid
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Post by costahotshot on Feb 27, 2019 7:30:08 GMT
Football like life is full of different choices and opinions, we all do what we think is right and that should be respected by others even if they don’t share the same opinion.
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Post by socrates on Feb 27, 2019 7:34:04 GMT
I won't be going to the semi-final and/or final as the competition has been devalued by allowing so-called reserve teams entering. It used to be a valid cup tournament for the lower divisions and had some credibility then but has now become something of a farce. Having said that I won't condemn anyone who wants a good day out at Wembley - but imagine if it was us against Stoke reserves - embarrissing! But its not. Its us, Sunderland, Bury and Portsmouth in the semi finals. We are one game away from Wembley - something we have managed twice in our history? And you want to choose that rare event to make a point to the EFL hahahahaha I very much doubt they are listening - and seeing all the premier league clubs have already been knocked out - your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If nobody turned up at Wembley they’d scrap it and we would never have the conversation about -23 in league competition again. So if enough boycotted they would listen . Thing is too many fans are putting a day out at Wembley over the future of the football league so that won’t happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 8:19:55 GMT
But its not. Its us, Sunderland, Bury and Portsmouth in the semi finals. We are one game away from Wembley - something we have managed twice in our history? And you want to choose that rare event to make a point to the EFL hahahahaha I very much doubt they are listening - and seeing all the premier league clubs have already been knocked out - your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If nobody turned up at Wembley they’d scrap it and we would never have the conversation about -23 in league competition again. So if enough boycotted they would listen . Thing is too many fans are putting a day out at Wembley over the future of the football league so that won’t happen. It might be the only chance fans might get too see their team at Wembley and who’s too say it’s at the future of the football league? Any fans going to Wembley to watch the final could also protest if they feel the need,it would get good coverage from sky sports.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2019 8:27:34 GMT
But its not. Its us, Sunderland, Bury and Portsmouth in the semi finals. We are one game away from Wembley - something we have managed twice in our history? And you want to choose that rare event to make a point to the EFL hahahahaha I very much doubt they are listening - and seeing all the premier league clubs have already been knocked out - your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If nobody turned up at Wembley they’d scrap it and we would never have the conversation about -23 in league competition again. So if enough boycotted they would listen .Thing is too many fans are putting a day out at Wembley over the future of the football league so that won’t happen. It would be interesting to look at the Pompey forum today and see what their fans are saying about attending the Wembley final, as I seem to recall their fans boycotted the games in large number when the U23 first entered the competition.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 27, 2019 8:31:16 GMT
If nobody turned up at Wembley they’d scrap it and we would never have the conversation about -23 in league competition again. So if enough boycotted they would listen .Thing is too many fans are putting a day out at Wembley over the future of the football league so that won’t happen. It would be interesting to look at the Pompey forum today and see what their fans are saying about attending the Wembley final, as I seem to recall their fans boycotted the games in large number when the U23 first entered the competition. There's this: Up the Gas If we are in the final of this potentially game changing awful competition then i hope we win it. We have a better chance vs Rovers than vs Sunderland. Go Gas Go
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