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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 6, 2019 13:37:20 GMT
If we’re going to stick with the diamond system we’re currently playing, then we effectively can choose any four from: Lines Clarke Sercombe Sinclair Upson Ogogo Sincs and OC can play in the same side along with Sercombe and one other, IMO. It worked very well on Saturday so we should stick with it for now. Having a couple of holding midfielders allows the full backs to get forward more often and provide some width. Upson and Ogogo would keep their places as holding midfielders which allows two more from the above list. The only issue being what happens when Rodman comes back as he had been one of our better midfielders recently. Agree - I like the system and think we look more balanced in it than flat 4-4-2, however, it is tricky to see where Rodman fits into that formation. Personally, I’d always be starting OC and Sercombe due to their goal threat from midfield. First choice for me would be: _____________Bonham Partington_Lockyer__Craig_THD ______________Upson ________Ogogo______OC ____________Sercombe ___________JCH____Nichols
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Post by lympstonegas on Mar 6, 2019 13:41:41 GMT
I'm afraid OC will always score more goals than the beard. It was a shame The beard wasn't able to convert the chance that came to him off their keeper in the first half.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 13:47:49 GMT
What about the passing to your own player department? that’s because he tries to go forward not sideways and that’s why he’s envolved in lots of our goals! Claude Makelele, Didier Deschamps, Dunga, Nobby Stiles - all used to go sideways but we're invaluable to their teams and achieved quite a lot. You can't have a team full of Glenn Hoddles. Whatever the level of football you always need a mix of technical players and battlers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 13:54:43 GMT
It worked very well on Saturday so we should stick with it for now. Having a couple of holding midfielders allows the full backs to get forward more often and provide some width. Upson and Ogogo would keep their places as holding midfielders which allows two more from the above list. The only issue being what happens when Rodman comes back as he had been one of our better midfielders recently. Agree - I like the system and think we look more balanced in it than flat 4-4-2, however, it is tricky to see where Rodman fits into that formation. Personally, I’d always be starting OC and Sercombe due to their goal threat from midfield. First choice for me would be: _____________Bonham Partington_Lockyer__Craig_THD ______________Upson ________Ogogo______OC ____________Sercombe ___________JCH____Nichols 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 hasn't always been popular with our fans - partly because we are stuck on the 4-4-2 we've been brought up with and also we've not necessarily had the players to make the most of it. Perhaps we do now if Rodman could convert to a wing back - he's physically big and strong enough and seems to have a good engine. How about Bonham Rodders, J Clarke, Lockyer, Craig, THD Ogogo Sercs, Upson JCH & Nichols
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Post by Squiffy on Mar 6, 2019 14:01:01 GMT
I imagine that Sincs might be first on DC’s list when he takes on his next job (assuming it’s League 1 or below) and held up as a living, breathing example of the work ethic and commitment he demands. At 32 I also think Sincs will be tempted to go as his game time at the Mem is potentially limited from now on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 14:13:37 GMT
Neither good enough for League 1. We need better. How do you work that one out? Both have contributed a lot IN LEAGUE 1 over the last few seasons.
That’s why we are where we are.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 6, 2019 14:43:22 GMT
I love the intensity and energy Sincs brings, but OC is a vastly superior football in almost every department. i agree 100% with you, but just recently Ollie has been a bit below his normal very high standard and maybe Sinc's could do a job with Ogogo to control the Midfield like we did against Blackpool
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 6, 2019 15:07:51 GMT
Agree - I like the system and think we look more balanced in it than flat 4-4-2, however, it is tricky to see where Rodman fits into that formation. Personally, I’d always be starting OC and Sercombe due to their goal threat from midfield. First choice for me would be: _____________Bonham Partington_Lockyer__Craig_THD ______________Upson ________Ogogo______OC ____________Sercombe ___________JCH____Nichols 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 hasn't always been popular with our fans - partly because we are stuck on the 4-4-2 we've been brought up with and also we've not necessarily had the players to make the most of. Perhaps we do now if Rodman could convert to a wing back - he's physically big and strong enough and seems to have a good engine. How about Bonham Rodders, J Clarke, Lockyer, Craig, THD Ogogo Sercs, Upson JCH & Nichols Like that - think Rodman has all the attributes to make a cracking RWB actually.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Mar 6, 2019 15:30:02 GMT
How do you work that one out? Both have contributed a lot IN LEAGUE 1 over the last few seasons.
That’s why we are where we are. Yes, in League 1 for our third season, which proves they are good enough for this division.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 16:39:40 GMT
that’s because he tries to go forward not sideways and that’s why he’s envolved in lots of our goals! Claude Makelele, Didier Deschamps, Dunga, Nobby Stiles - all used to go sideways but we're invaluable to their teams and achieved quite a lot. You can't have a team full of Glenn Hoddles. Whatever the level of football you always need a mix of technical players and battlers. sorry I meant we have plenty of others that do just that! I.e ogogo, upson. Sincs
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Post by peterhooper57 on Mar 6, 2019 17:02:02 GMT
IMO Sinclair was a super player when we were in the conference and division 2, he is now a casualty and I would let him go asap; it shows how far BRFC have slipped if we are talking about Ollie Clarke as if he is that important to our survival ffs the reason he has been subbed twice recently is because he has been awful, first choice central pairing for me for the remainder of the season would be Aggogo and Liam Sercombe, sorry Sincs and OC possess very little creativity which equals not a lot happening in the way of chances for the forwards.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 17:11:18 GMT
That’s why we are where we are. Yes, in League 1 for our third season, which proves they are good enough for this division. Every coach I ever worked with insisted that they needed players who could play at the next level. That’s why we are where we are.
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Post by stapletongas on Mar 6, 2019 17:39:50 GMT
Based on last nights performance, would you play The Beard in Ollie Clarke's Position along side Ogogo ? A Big Yes for me at the moment Ollie defo don't look fit at the moment No you need a piano mover and a piano player 👍
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Post by lpgas on Mar 6, 2019 17:43:19 GMT
IMO Sinclair was a super player when we were in the conference and division 2, he is now a casualty and I would let him go asap; it shows how far BRFC have slipped if we are talking about Ollie Clarke as if he is that important to our survival ffs the reason he has been subbed twice recently is because he has been awful, first choice central pairing for me for the remainder of the season would be Aggogo and Liam Sercombe, sorry Sincs and OC possess very little creativity which equals not a lot happening in the way of chances for the forwards. Secombe hasn't been that good either
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Post by lpgas on Mar 6, 2019 17:46:51 GMT
I think we will see quite a few go in the summer. My own list would be considerable but next season I hope we have a smaller squad but more quality. There are lots of good players out there. I would also try and recruit players from Up North, they seem a bit harder. And I would look at those that have been released by Championship Clubs.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Mar 6, 2019 19:21:17 GMT
Yes, in League 1 for our third season, which proves they are good enough for this division. Every coach I ever worked with insisted that they needed players who could play at the next level. That’s why we are where we are. I agree with that bit, but you said they weren't good enough for League 1 and quite clearly they are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:11:49 GMT
Absolutely the beard is the heart and soul of the club he would be the first name on the teamsheet when first t The beard is a player that I would keep at our club until his legs go,or his heart (which never would) even if we got to the premiership! Just as a squad player for his personality,even if he played only one game a season. Some players get what a club is about, and while is ability is only a 2 or 3 out 10 his heart is 100/10.You cant buy that,nor teach that and he needs to be around our club until he drops! Absolutely, although a.bit harsh on his ability. Sincs is a far better player than he is often given credit for and ability wise is easily good enough for this league. Lee Mansell was a similar personality in that he 'got' this club. We've arguably never replaced that and to let Sinclair go would be a big mistake in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:12:50 GMT
How do you work that one out? Both have contributed a lot IN LEAGUE 1 over the last few seasons.
That’s why we are where we are. Where do you expect us to be?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 22:48:01 GMT
That’s why we are where we are. Where do you expect us to be? At the other end of the table pushing for at least a play off place.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 6, 2019 23:20:18 GMT
I think we will see quite a few go in the summer. My own list would be considerable but next season I hope we have a smaller squad but more quality. There are lots of good players out there. I would also try and recruit players from Up North, they seem a bit harder. And I would look at those that have been released by Championship Clubs. "Recruit players from up north, they seem a bit harder" what a ridiculously stereotypical comment.
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