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Post by gregsy on Mar 6, 2019 17:12:47 GMT
Carsons road indeed. I believe there were objections because a) Light pollution from floodlights although they were to go in the roof. b) Wildlife trust (or one of the subsidaries) not happy as animals that weren't there might move in. I believe it was badgers and there were no sets c) locals worried about roads although the council built the ring road with access roads being where they would have been anyway. Having the stadium blamed for something that was already going to happen 🤔 Correct about the objections but plans were never submitted to be refused. Ok, I don't think many of us realise that.... It certainly seemed at the time that we were refused planning.... |
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Post by socrates on Mar 6, 2019 17:18:14 GMT
So their current home kingsmeadow they rent, yet somehow without any land assets they can purchase land in southwest London. Possibly one of the most expensive places to buy land in the country, possibly the entire planet. Oh, and then they've got the resources left over to build a stadium on the land.... Talk about pulling a rabbit out of a hat.... Its London. Things get built there. In fact things get built in most places. Bristol is the exception. I’m a builder , in Bristol and loads gets built here. You can’t blame Bristol , blame Bristol Rovers. |
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Post by gregsy on Mar 6, 2019 17:26:55 GMT
Its London. Things get built there. In fact things get built in most places. Bristol is the exception. I’m a builder , in Bristol and loads gets built here. You can’t blame Bristol , blame Bristol Rovers. Alright Bob.... |
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Post by legas on Mar 6, 2019 17:28:19 GMT
Its London. Things get built there. In fact things get built in most places. Bristol is the exception. I’m a builder , in Bristol and loads gets built here. You can’t blame Bristol , blame Bristol Rovers. But if you want a new kitchen, I’ve heard Leeds is the place to go. |
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Post by lpgas on Mar 6, 2019 17:41:15 GMT
Wimbledon have purchased the land which is a brownfield site. Also, they don't rent Kingsmeadow, they have a lease. Plus when you say who is paying for it did you not notice the housing estate surrounding it? That's what is paying for it, and lets say over the next 10 years they get in the Prem and become a pretty big club. will they be able to expand? I think not.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 6, 2019 18:05:09 GMT
But after how many years of them trying? then all the efforts over Ashton vale etc..? Main reason they got there in the end was due to the Billionaire ploughing the dosh into them tho. Doesn't take away from the fact that our city is very Leftie thinking, and to PC in terms of redevelopment and is very backward unless your building student housing😕😒👎 Gotta help those students! They need to to do there law degrees to then work in retail for the rest of there lives! If you get a law degree, you ain't working in retail, unless its the Law Department of Marks and Spencer's. I take your general point about people wasting 3 years on mickey mouse degrees the cost of which they will never repay that are totally irrelevant to the workplace, so end up in (perfectly fine) jobs in retail or call centres which they could have done aged 18 Sorry,yeah that was my general point. I used Law from my own experience.See I work in retail myself and my current boss has a law degree but only got into retail as it was easy for him to walk straight into a position as a store manager on £45k plus per year even tho he had no past experence in that field due to his degree.Ive also worked with at least 3 other managers off the top of my head in past years that have done the same. Anyway it was just my way of having a pop at students as they bug the hell out of me in gerneral, not all of them.. but most.lol I aint got a problem with anyone bettering themselfs,but this generation of millennials that are studying needed training in...Music,grape design, or how to change a light bulb that are libtards,snowflakes that martch over anything and aannoys the hell out of me. Whenever I see new builds housing going up that are for students yet I know there are 100s homeless on our streets, or OAP that cant afford to put there heating on due to the cost drives me insane! And a high % of these wanky student fuckers will never repay there college fees back as they will never make more that £20k working in Mcdonalds 10 years down the line!😠|
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Post by dexygas on Mar 6, 2019 18:09:13 GMT
Its London. Things get built there. In fact things get built in most places. Bristol is the exception. Please stop with this generalisation. Off the top of my head I can think of: - Huge blocks of flats in Redcliffe (with indoor market I'm hearing) - Extension to Wapping Wharf - Brandon Yard housing - East street redevelopment - Bottom of North street housing development - All the work thats going on round temple meads Thats JUST off the top of my head. Plenty gets built in Bristol, its not Bristols fault we can't get our sh** together to get a new stadium Off the top of my head I can think of numerous attempts by Rovers to build a stadium somewhere in the last 40 years. the withdrawal of permission to race speedway at Eastville and not allow it anywhere else City not able to build a new stadium The withdrawal of ice skating facilities Inability to build a concert venue |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2019 18:37:14 GMT
Please stop with this generalisation. Off the top of my head I can think of: - Huge blocks of flats in Redcliffe (with indoor market I'm hearing) - Extension to Wapping Wharf - Brandon Yard housing - East street redevelopment - Bottom of North street housing development - All the work thats going on round temple meads Thats JUST off the top of my head. Plenty gets built in Bristol, its not Bristols fault we can't get our sh** together to get a new stadium Off the top of my head I can think of numerous attempts by Rovers to build a stadium somewhere in the last 40 years. the withdrawal of permission to race speedway at Eastville and not allow it anywhere else City not able to build a new stadium The withdrawal of ice skating facilities Inability to build a concert venue Problem is whenever Rovers get pp, once at the Mem, once at the UWE, we can never raise the finance to build it. I don't think we've ever had the money to build a stadium and I fear we never will. |
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Post by socrates on Mar 6, 2019 19:33:01 GMT
I’m a builder , in Bristol and loads gets built here. You can’t blame Bristol , blame Bristol Rovers. But if you want a new kitchen, I’ve heard Leeds is the place to go. Starting my side extension tomorrow . If you want a kitchen in Bristol then Blue Sky Design and Build is the place to go. |
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Post by socrates on Mar 6, 2019 19:33:51 GMT
I’m a builder , in Bristol and loads gets built here. You can’t blame Bristol , blame Bristol Rovers. Alright Bob.... Sam. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 6, 2019 19:59:15 GMT
If all us fans signed a document, to say we’d cycle to the ground, it would probably get built quicker than Wimbledon’s.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 6, 2019 20:01:21 GMT
Shouldn't you be a fireman then? Sorry! |
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Post by socrates on Mar 6, 2019 20:39:18 GMT
Shouldn't you be a fireman then? Sorry! Probably . I don’t think I could fit anything else in right now though I’m pretty busy. |
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Post by legas on Mar 6, 2019 21:28:21 GMT
But if you want a new kitchen, I’ve heard Leeds is the place to go. Starting my side extension tomorrow . If you want a kitchen in Bristol then Blue Sky Design and Build is the place to go. Our extension starts in a few weeks ... sadly I live inLeicester so may have to go a bit more local for the kitchen I’m afraid. |
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Post by hardingegas on Mar 6, 2019 22:37:37 GMT
So where did a small club like Wimbledon get the money for this project?
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Post by gasforeverman on Mar 6, 2019 22:58:29 GMT
So the various people who have been in charge of the club since we left eastville have let us down.. Vast majority of efl clubs have new or revamped stadiums that suit there needs. Ours isa laughing stock which is not fit for a professional 2019 efl club
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Post by aghast on Mar 6, 2019 23:07:24 GMT
So where did a small club like Wimbledon get the money for this project? I think it's being funded in three ways: - Selling Kingsmeadow to Chelsea, who will use it as a training ground - A share issue to fans - A deal with Merton Council, who were keen to have them back. Without the return of the football club, a property developer would have trouble getting planning permission for 600 homes on the site. With the Dons returning, the deal was done. The cheapest one bedroom flat will be £425,000, and no doubt the developers will have funded a huge chunk of the stadium costs. Being based in London is the key for them. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 6, 2019 23:34:20 GMT
So their current home kingsmeadow they rent, yet somehow without any land assets they can purchase land in southwest London. Possibly one of the most expensive places to buy land in the country, possibly the entire planet. Oh, and then they've got the resources left over to build a stadium on the land.... Talk about pulling a rabbit out of a hat.... They owned the leasehold to kingsmeadow. Bought it off Kingstonian. Sold it to Chelsea. Complicated land swaps, sales and purchases. www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news/2018/december/plough-lane-latest/ |
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Post by supergas on Mar 7, 2019 2:29:47 GMT
So where did a small club like Wimbledon get the money for this project? It pains me to say it but this is the perfect example of a well-run lower league club doing the right business at the right time to benefit the club. Their London location has proved both beneficial in many ways and hampered them in others - if anyone at Rovers thinks we have problems with our local council, consider that this planning permission, after passing all the local council hurdles has then been called in by the Mayor of London, the GLC and the Secretary Of State, but it was quickly passed by all parties and is proceeding with only a few months delay.... Is it good luck or is it good judgement? Could be either or both but anyone who is successful in their chosen field will tell you that you make your own luck. For those that haven't seen the actual plans, they are only building phase one of the plans to start with, although planning permission has been granted for the second phase as well. Phase one is an 11k capacity stadium with three temporary stands. Their West Stand will be the only permanent stand built and even this will only be fully fitted out on two of it's three levels (although it does include an extended conference/hospitality area in one corner). So it's not quite tents on three sides, just semi-permanent seating structures with no permanent facilities underneath them. Exactly what they need at this point, reflecting their crowd size and current place on the EFL pyramid. With the obvious ability to upgrade one by one as the financial and fan requirements for them are met. |
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Post by axegas on Mar 7, 2019 3:13:26 GMT
I think the best way forward for us to go as a club is a modest, stand by stand redevelopment of the mem. Something that boosts the stadiums capacity up to 16k-17k and makes it easier to host events so our non match day revenue can increase and gives decent facilities for supporters that makes it easier to sell the club as a whole. The aim should then be to market season tickets at cheap, attractive prices so that we can look to get 10k+ crowds on a regular basis, this would put us in the top 5 league one clubs in terms of support and give us a real chance of competing for promotion to the championship, as well as growing our fanbase at the same time.
Unless the owners have found a promising and realistic site for a new stadium and can't tell us due to NDA, I think the time has come to accept that we probably won't get the shiny new stadium that we have all been looking for and to look at alternatives. The mem is in a good location for a stadium and a stand by stand redevelopment could be funded by things such as stadium grants, student housing, commercial units, the sale of the colony and player sales etc. Seeing what Nottingham Forest are doing with their ground hopefully should give us some inspiration.
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