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Post by warehamgas on Mar 6, 2019 19:35:26 GMT
What about if we go for 3-5-2 next season? Could sign another CB. I think THD would be made for LWB role and then sign a RWB. Sercombe, Ogogo and Clarke in the middle. Maybe sign a CM like Lines but younger. And then JCH and Nichols up top. Yes I can see the logic of that but do you think LS will be here next season? I wouldnt have thought the body lanaguage looks that promising as to signing a new contract. UTG!
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Post by Jomo on Mar 6, 2019 19:46:18 GMT
What about if we go for 3-5-2 next season? Could sign another CB. I think THD would be made for LWB role and then sign a RWB. Sercombe, Ogogo and Clarke in the middle. Maybe sign a CM like Lines but younger. And then JCH and Nichols up top. Yes I can see the logic of that but do you think LS will be here next season? I wouldnt have thought the body lanaguage looks that promising as to signing a new contract. UTG! Sadly I can't see Sercombe staying, whether we stay up or not. I wouldn't be surprised if we lose THD as well. Having said that if we can keep hold of them then 3-5-2 would be my preferred choice. We have Kilgour hopefully coming back and staking a claim for a CB berth as well, and I would keep Craig and Lockyer as both strong likeable characters which goes a long way in terms of morale in the dressing room. The Beard also brings a lot to the club in this respect, even though it would seem that his days of playing a regular meaningful part for us on the pitch are fading away, and we have better quality options in his position already. I'd be sad to see him go though.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 6, 2019 19:51:14 GMT
I've said this a number of times before I just don't get the constant criticism of our centre halves (Craig especially). We've conceded 37 goals in 34 games & yet we still get the same they're not good enough / not tall enough / not quick enough stuff trotted out. Of course they have weaknesses if they didn't they wouldn't be here but to suggest they aren't good enough imo is absolute nonsense. As for next season I'd hope the one or both of Kilgour & Meyenase would be pushing for a place, will be interested to see who GC retains bearing in mind he was a centre half himself
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 20:07:12 GMT
Ffs seriously this sorta s**t again?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 6, 2019 20:14:08 GMT
Ffs seriously this sorta s**t again? eh ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2019 20:18:40 GMT
I've said this a number of times before I just don't get the constant criticism of our centre halves (Craig especially). We've conceded 37 goals in 34 games & yet we still get the same they're not good enough / not tall enough / not quick enough stuff trotted out. Of course they have weaknesses if they didn't they wouldn't be here but to suggest they aren't good enough imo is absolute nonsense. As for next season I'd hope the one or both of Kilgour & Meyenase would be pushing for a place, will be interested to see who GC retains bearing in mind he was a centre half himself For a bottom 10 side they are OK, if we want to push on then one needs to go, last night proved they are not good enough. I can't honestly see why we would offer Craig another contract as there must be cheaper younger taller options out there, we gave TB away to a Div 2 side!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:06:22 GMT
I've said this a number of times before I just don't get the constant criticism of our centre halves (Craig especially). We've conceded 37 goals in 34 games & yet we still get the same they're not good enough / not tall enough / not quick enough stuff trotted out. Of course they have weaknesses if they didn't they wouldn't be here but to suggest they aren't good enough imo is absolute nonsense. As for next season I'd hope the one or both of Kilgour & Meyenase would be pushing for a place, will be interested to see who GC retains bearing in mind he was a centre half himself This. I'd be happy to see Lockyer and Craig still here next season, although fear we may not be able to hold on to Tom much longer. Craig should have another season at this level in him, in my opinion. The defensive record this season supports that view. Broadbent had potential, but despite his size was nowhere near as good as Craig in the air, not as streetwise (understandably given their respective experience) and too often allowed himself to be bullied by big players such as Wyke and Stockley. I can't understand why the question of whether Lockyer and Craig are good enough when anyone who has seen us play would surely agree that our problems have been offensively in that under DC we didn't take our chances and under GC we haven't created them. Either way, Craig and Lockyer ain't the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:07:24 GMT
I've said this a number of times before I just don't get the constant criticism of our centre halves (Craig especially). We've conceded 37 goals in 34 games & yet we still get the same they're not good enough / not tall enough / not quick enough stuff trotted out. Of course they have weaknesses if they didn't they wouldn't be here but to suggest they aren't good enough imo is absolute nonsense. As for next season I'd hope the one or both of Kilgour & Meyenase would be pushing for a place, will be interested to see who GC retains bearing in mind he was a centre half himself For a bottom 10 side they are OK, if we want to push on then one needs to go, last night proved they are not good enough. I can't honestly see why we would offer Craig another contract as there must be cheaper younger taller options out there, we gave TB away to a Div 2 side! We are a bottom 10 side and realistically cannot expect to be much more than that.
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 21:12:20 GMT
Ffs seriously this sorta s**t again? eh ? More criticism of our defence despite our attack being the issue all season. We're in the bottom four and our GD is -2 ffs... Rochdale have conceded TWICE AS MANY AS US. This forum has a weird obsession with criticising Lockyer and Craig.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 22:34:22 GMT
More criticism of our defence despite our attack being the issue all season. We're in the bottom four and our GD is -2 ffs... Rochdale have conceded TWICE AS MANY AS US. This forum has a weird obsession with criticising Lockyer and Craig. Do you act like this with your partner and at work? Chill out mate, it’s just a forum and this isn’t North Korea and the stars are of interest hence why someone has taken the time to publish them on Twitter. See you at Scunthorpe Saturday if you are going Neil, happy to say hello, it’s what you do on a match day in support that maters. Paul
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 22:40:50 GMT
More criticism of our defence despite our attack being the issue all season. We're in the bottom four and our GD is -2 ffs... Rochdale have conceded TWICE AS MANY AS US. This forum has a weird obsession with criticising Lockyer and Craig. Do you act like this with your partner and at work?Chill out mate, it’s just a forum and this isn’t North Korea and the stars are of interest hence why someone has taken the time to publish them on Twitter. See you at Scunthorpe Saturday if you are going Neil, happy to say hello, it’s what you do on a match day in support that maters. Paul What?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 6, 2019 22:48:19 GMT
More criticism of our defence despite our attack being the issue all season. We're in the bottom four and our GD is -2 ffs... Rochdale have conceded TWICE AS MANY AS US. This forum has a weird obsession with criticising Lockyer and Craig. To be fair you were slagging off Bonham which beggars belief too. How was our defence getting on before he arrived?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 22:48:51 GMT
Ffs seriously this sorta s**t again? Your reaction, take a shower, calm down and stick some clean pants on.
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 22:53:06 GMT
Ffs seriously this sorta s**t again? Your reaction, take a shower, calm down and stick some clean pants on. This is grim banter pal.
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Post by hardingegas on Mar 6, 2019 22:54:48 GMT
Despite lacking height both are good defenders at this level although it would be easier if either played alongside a tall dominant type. I'm sure Coughlan, as that kind of player in his day, will be looking out for one in the summer. How tall is Kilgour by the way? As regards Broadbent he may have come good but for me didn't read the game well and often got caught out when trying to bring the ball out from the back.
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 23:10:04 GMT
More criticism of our defence despite our attack being the issue all season. We're in the bottom four and our GD is -2 ffs... Rochdale have conceded TWICE AS MANY AS US. This forum has a weird obsession with criticising Lockyer and Craig. To be fair you were slagging off Bonham which beggars belief too. How was our defence getting on before he arrived? Yeah fair point, I'll give you that. For what it's worth, we'd only played like four games... pulled off some worldy saves in the early parts of his loan and has gradually regressed to the mean since IMO. As said in other threads, I won't be too downbeat if we don't sign him on. I just think Lockyer and Craig get unfair criticism and have done all season, especially given how weak our full-backs and defensive midfield areas have been (prior to THD's return to fitness and signing Ogogo more recently) which hasn't helped them whatsoever. To each their own I suppose!
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 6, 2019 23:19:55 GMT
Wasn't it confirmed by TW in a previous interview that the vast majority of our players are out of contract this summer?
Apart from the new boys and 2-3 others we could be looking at wholesale changes anyway.
Any ideas who is still contracted for 2019/2020?
(Did I really just type 2020?😐)
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Post by pirate on Mar 6, 2019 23:22:44 GMT
Despite lacking height both are good defenders at this level although it would be easier if either played alongside a tall dominant type. I'm sure Coughlan, as that kind of player in his day, will be looking out for one in the summer. How tall is Kilgour by the way? As regards Broadbent he may have come good but for me didn't read the game well and often got caught out when trying to bring the ball out from the back. I think Kilgour is about the same height as Lockyer and Craig, if not smaller, but he has certainly made a big impression at Maidenhead and seems to have become a bit of a cult hero with their fans. www.cultzeros.co.uk/product/23229/alfie-kilgour-maidenhead-united/
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 6, 2019 23:51:29 GMT
Craig a championship player??? Hahahaha. That's where he spent most of his career, the fact he's passed it now doesn't change history. You've answered the question there with your tense - 'spent'. Football has changed. Craig is lower than average in LGE 1 now. Would never play now in the championship, or even if he was younger.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 0:46:53 GMT
I think lockyer has been outstanding this season despite his obvious weakness in distributing the ball. Craig has been decent but i would think him being here next season would depend on him accepting a reduced salary contract offer.
Nobody knows what coughlan will do or what division we will be in never mind what budget will be available.
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