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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 10:06:24 GMT
I don't think Rambo is far off from my way of thinking on the "development" of the squad that GC has used mainly and I agree with squiffy on GC. He deserves a chance, nobody knows how he will fare in the transfer market so give him a chance. The defence has generally been play off form and so why get rid of any of them unless they want to go. Tony Craig has at least another season of service and for me should be captain next season. We can surely pick up a tall dominating centre half to play alongside him and a right back to challenge James Clarke. Holmes -Dennis with a pre season behind him could be the best left back in the division and we would have Kilgour and Kelly to challenge the back four. The failure has been creative players and so IMO we need at least four creative players being wingers,central midfielders and strikers. JCH is the only striker that can be relied on and hopefully we will see more of Rodman next season. I would imagine GC would have contacts not least of all someone like Carey of Plymouth. I think most of us agree that DC got us too big a squad with nowhere near enough balance of power and pace and creativity. Totally agree creativity is the key area - likely to be the difference between another season of relegation struggle or maybe a push for the last playoff spot. Carey would be good and shouldn't be unachievable. A Jack Payne type is also required but I'm not sure how realistic that would be? i think GC will start next season with Kilgour alongside Craig which I think would be a risky strategy. I would like us to go for Curtis Nelson who is a free agent but again whether that would be achievable I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 10:09:24 GMT
The problem with bringing some quality into the squad is that quality costs money! Right there, is the fly in the soup !
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Post by knowall on May 6, 2019 10:10:55 GMT
Ha, yeah. Bit of a bitch to have to come in on a bank holiday just to be told you don't have to come in anymore. It's not that tough AF, they usually get paid, and handsomely, till the end of June ! Over to you Hani
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Post by stigofthegas on May 6, 2019 10:11:24 GMT
quartered- ridiculous you can't lose all those players when the talk is that we aren't going to sign very many. That will get us relegated or a repeat of the Paul Buckle season. Add to this most players are CONTRACTED for next season anyway. Most of the players who have been regulars under GC are good enough to be at the very least part of the squad and you don't want to totally break up the squad team spirit which has been built since DC left. Bonham - worth signing but not silly money Smith - leave Slocombe - leave Kelly - keep THD - keep Craig - keep Lockyer - mind made up for us Menayese - leave Clarke - keep Kilgour - keep Partington - leave Leadbitter - leave Sinclair - leave Upson - keep Ogogo - keep Lines - leave Clarke - keep Sercombe - keep Matthews - leave Rodman - keep Bennett - leave Mensah - leave Reilly - leave Jakubiak - keep Clarke Harris - keep Nichols - leave Payne - leave Exactly as I would call it other than I would give Gavin Reilly another chance. He knows how to score.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 6, 2019 10:22:51 GMT
The problem with bringing some quality into the squad is that quality costs money! Right there, is the fly in the soup ! Does it though or was that the line DC sold to Wael, the package to sign TN must have been around around £650K (£350K fee 3 x £100K p.a.), Payne another player who probably cost the best part of £500K, compared to JCH who's probably costing us £300K. Like JCH Sonny Bradley signed for Luton on a free and has lead them up as Champions. Do we also need 24(?) 1st team players all on Div 1 salaries or 18 or so 1st team players backed up with players like Kelly & Kilgour trying to make the grade? Why's everyone now writing Rollin Menayese off, before he want on loan to Aldershot on loan he looked like one for the future, he's always been ahead of Kilgour in the Development Squad.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 6, 2019 10:27:45 GMT
quartered- ridiculous you can't lose all those players when the talk is that we aren't going to sign very many. That will get us relegated or a repeat of the Paul Buckle season. Add to this most players are CONTRACTED for next season anyway. Most of the players who have been regulars under GC are good enough to be at the very least part of the squad and you don't want to totally break up the squad team spirit which has been built since DC left. Bonham - worth signing but not silly money Smith - leave Slocombe - leave Kelly - keep THD - keep Craig - keep Lockyer - mind made up for us Menayese - leave Clarke - keep Kilgour - keep Partington - leave Leadbitter - leave Sinclair - leave Upson - keep Ogogo - keep Lines - leave Clarke - keep Sercombe - keep Matthews - leave Rodman - keep Bennett - leave Mensah - leave Reilly - leave Jakubiak - keep Clarke Harris - keep Nichols - leave Payne - leave Exactly as I would call it other than I would give Gavin Reilly another chance. He knows how to score. Given his comments on Insta about 1st season south of the border being over I sense he's got another year on his contract so unless we're prepared to buy up his contract he'll be here next season. I can't see Nichols going anywhere fast as what team will want to sign a non goal scoring striker? Not sure how we can just "keep" Jakubiak when he's still under contract at Watford and I assume they'll want a fee for him.
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Post by oldmarket65 on May 6, 2019 10:33:27 GMT
quartered- ridiculous you can't lose all those players when the talk is that we aren't going to sign very many. That will get us relegated or a repeat of the Paul Buckle season. Add to this most players are CONTRACTED for next season anyway. Most of the players who have been regulars under GC are good enough to be at the very least part of the squad and you don't want to totally break up the squad team spirit which has been built since DC left. Bonham - worth signing but not silly money Smith - leave Slocombe - leave Kelly - keep THD - keep Craig - keep Lockyer - mind made up for us Menayese - leave Clarke - keep Kilgour - keep Partington - leave Leadbitter - leave Sinclair - leave Upson - keep Ogogo - keep Lines - leave Clarke - keep Sercombe - keep Matthews - leave Rodman - keep Bennett - leave Mensah - leave Reilly - leave Jakubiak - keep Clarke Harris - keep Nichols - leave Payne - leave Exactly as I would call it other than I would give Gavin Reilly another chance. He knows how to score. It's impossible to know until we have players contract confirmation. However: would Reilly come down from Scotland only for 10 months ? What about our record signing Nichols - only 2 years ?. And Payne ? I almost agree with the above list except keeping Jakubiak. Personally : I would offer record awarding contracts for Lockyer and a healthy one for Sercombe . I would say to Locks here's our contract with security ( G.C have said he wants him ) and see if a championship club increases our offer. If our offer is good then another team must offer at least 30% more with a big signing on fee. Will that happen ??
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 10:34:27 GMT
about the board backing him, wael has just put on a instagram something about saving the club from financial ruin. Don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. Just took a gander - he's just replying to someone who said 'actions speak louder than words you need to invest' - Wael then is saying how he 'saved' the club when he took over I guess Then he gets replies like this:- poby_tom
Get the F##k out of our club take the sh** manager with youSome of our fans have no class and no idea about running a football club in this day and age.
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Post by singupgas on May 6, 2019 10:35:43 GMT
I disagree. GC has been waiting in the wings for a long time and BRFC has given him his first chance to show what he can do. He appears to be just as ambitious and passionate as DC, a tad less dour, says it like it is and was perceptive enough to know who was going to help him in the trenches both new and existing players. Not all managers are capable of turning a sinking ship around once the rot has set in so that is a big tick with regards to his man management skills and ability to change mindsets even if there was some collateral damage. He did what he thought was needed to keep us up and he got the desired result. I know that sometimes it is about luck, the bounce of the ball, a gust of wind etc, but you can’t deny that he made us harder to beat and engineered some unexpected away wins. The pressure to win at home obviously took its toll but starting next season with a clean slate that could easily change and so a fortress Mem coupled with half decent away form could see us challenging right up there with the best. It will take some decent recruitment but TW has had more time to get his feet under the table and GC has been in League 1 long enough to know what standard of player is required and undoubtedly has his own contacts. I do believe the board will back him within the constraints they have set but that doesn’t seem to bother GC as he has said several times recently that things are positive on and off the pitch. I think there is more to GC than some people give him credit for and having had a pretty good start as a manager he will know that a successful full season will do his career a world of good as much as for BRFC. I don’t see any reason why we couldn’t do a Burton and if the off field issues start to resolve themselves in a positive way then a new chapter in our history could be really exciting. about the board backing him, wael has just put on a instagram something about saving the club from financial ruin. Don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. The caption the picture "Deep passion...always believe..united we stand...Goodnight Irene..UTG forever..." Interesting gathering people, I recognise a few of the faces some I doubt even watch Rovers too often. The comments are always interesting, some taking things too far with their language, but have to agree we are limping along... when will their be good news about a Training Ground or dare I say it Stadium developments. If there is to be little investment in the squad then i struggle to see how the club could pay for either of the above.
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Post by Gassy on May 6, 2019 11:09:55 GMT
Just took a gander - he's just replying to someone who said 'actions speak louder than words you need to invest' - Wael then is saying how he 'saved' the club when he took over I guess Then he gets replies like this:- poby_tom
Get the F##k out of our club take the sh** manager with youSome of our fans have no class and no idea about running a football club in this day and age. Seriously? That's an outrage. I'm not Wael's biggest fan, but that is a disgrace to him & GC
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Post by roosty56 on May 6, 2019 11:17:06 GMT
Alll is needed is a tall physical CB to replace TL , a goalkeeper to replace JB cos if he is ambitious he won’t want to stay, Pacy widemen who can actually cross a decent ball ,midfield player to replace CL again can’t see him staying, And finally a forward who can compliment JCH of course if he stays , who leaves that I will leave up to GC or the clubs financial situation
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 14:45:34 GMT
We need to add at least 5 good league 1 players and more if contract offers not all accepted. Priorities for me are:
Goalkeeper (hope it's Bonham) A Right Back/wing back A dominant but mobile central defender A creative midfielder A wide midfielder/winger to give us options A striker who can knock in 10-15 goals
How much we can spend will defend if we can offload Payne and Bennett who must be tying up at least £300k possibly more in wages.
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Post by axegas on May 6, 2019 14:49:30 GMT
I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Bennett. Coughlan didn't sound too keen to sell him to Swindon and he's been in good form whilst over there. If we play a balanced system with fullbacks and wingers next year, then it may be worth keeping him around and giving him another chance.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 14:55:25 GMT
quartered- ridiculous you can't lose all those players when the talk is that we aren't going to sign very many. That will get us relegated or a repeat of the Paul Buckle season. Add to this most players are CONTRACTED for next season anyway. Most of the players who have been regulars under GC are good enough to be at the very least part of the squad and you don't want to totally break up the squad team spirit which has been built since DC left. Bonham - worth signing but not silly money Smith - leave Slocombe - leave Kelly - keep THD - keep Craig - keep Lockyer - mind made up for us Menayese - leave Clarke - keep Kilgour - keep Partington - leave Leadbitter - leave Sinclair - leave Upson - keep Ogogo - keep Lines - leave Clarke - keep Sercombe - keep Matthews - leave Rodman - keep Bennett - leave Mensah - leave Reilly - leave Jakubiak - keep Clarke Harris - keep Nichols - leave Payne - leave Pretty much agree with your list. Newspapers said Bonham out of contract in June so might be a free agent. Think Partington might get a 1 year extension as cover for new Right Back and not sure how Menayese has done at Aldershot but he's still only 21 so might get another year to prove himself.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 16:26:03 GMT
All we need is goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers...
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Post by ineedgas on May 6, 2019 16:50:25 GMT
All we need is goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers... Don't think defence is the problem conceding 50 goals was that 5th worst in league one
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Post by Hudson1883 on May 6, 2019 16:52:25 GMT
You know it’s time to give up on a thread when the OP contains the words Sercombe Keep & Craig Leave.
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Post by blueridge on May 6, 2019 17:23:10 GMT
All we need is goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers... Don't think defence is the problem conceding 50 goals was that 5th worst best in league one Corrected for you. <iframe width="23.0599999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_93981974" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.06px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.0599999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_96376795" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1094px; top: -5px; width: 23.06px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.0599999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_66388674" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px; width: 23.06px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.0599999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21951553" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1094px; top: 181px; width: 23.06px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
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Post by Gas1977 on May 6, 2019 17:47:13 GMT
I’d think the meetings definitely happened today as Jakubiak has just said good luck for the future, his contract is up in the summer so clearly he won’t be returning. Retained list should come soon but it may take some time typing the released players...
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Post by Topper Gas on May 6, 2019 18:10:32 GMT
I’d think the meetings definitely happened today as Jakubiak has just said good luck for the future, his contract is up in the summer so clearly he won’t be returning. Retained list should come soon but it may take some time typing the released players... Jak signed a new contract with Watford last summer, I can't see them offering him just a year then promptly sending him to us for the full length of his new contract? I can't see why Jak would meet GC today to be told about his future when he's a Watford player.
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