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Post by Big Jock on Jul 3, 2019 19:01:54 GMT
Nice touch that after th National Anthems, Swedish captain getting a wee tap at each players ass.
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Post by gregsy on Jul 3, 2019 19:26:42 GMT
I was right on the edge of my seat for a moment there, but then I slipped off the chair unconscious....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 19:36:45 GMT
I like watching the Swedes in the crowd. All that long blonde hair, flawless skin, bright blue eyes, fulsome lips.........and that's just the blokes !
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Post by gregsy on Jul 3, 2019 19:47:11 GMT
Both teams have got to have a go second half.... Its a showcase event and it is possibly the most uneventful game of the entire tournament....
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Post by bluegas on Jul 3, 2019 20:24:32 GMT
When Jonathan Pearce is reduced to rabbiting on about the fans' bands, the game is obviously a bit lacking. Can see the US turning over either of these two. Maybe the real final was last night.
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 3, 2019 20:32:50 GMT
Couple of good saves, apart from that its been Keystone Cops stuff.
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Post by Rod1883 on Jul 3, 2019 20:50:08 GMT
When Jonathan Pearce is reduced to rabbiting on about the fans' bands, the game is obviously a bit lacking. Can see the US turning over either of these two. Maybe the real final was last night. Based on the (lack of any) quality on show tonight, yes the final was last night. It's a shame we were in that half of the draw. I think either England or France would have beaten both teams playing tonight. Cue us getting stuffed in the (meaningless) 3rd/4th playoff game
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 20:56:04 GMT
When Jonathan Pearce is reduced to rabbiting on about the fans' bands, the game is obviously a bit lacking. Can see the US turning over either of these two. Maybe the real final was last night. Is he perving over sue smith tonight? Dam ted paedo.
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Post by bluegas on Jul 3, 2019 20:59:32 GMT
When Jonathan Pearce is reduced to rabbiting on about the fans' bands, the game is obviously a bit lacking. Can see the US turning over either of these two. Maybe the real final was last night. Based on the (lack of any) quality on show tonight, yes the final was last night. It's a shame we were in that half of the draw. I think either England or France would have beaten both teams playing tonight. Ce us getting stuffed in the (meaningless) 3rd/4th playoff game If we were to win the 3rd/4th playoff, maybe we should challenge the losing finalists to a playoff for the true second best team in the world.
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 3, 2019 21:00:26 GMT
Ahh fucck it, might as well have another an watch xtra time
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 21:08:56 GMT
Got to be said, but neither of these teams look as though they could score in a brothel !
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 3, 2019 21:46:20 GMT
Got to be said, but neither of these teams look as though they could score in a brothel ! i would love to meet some of those Swedish girls in a Brothel.........
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 21:57:26 GMT
Got to be said, but neither of these teams look as though they could score in a brothel ! i would love to meet some of those Swedish girls in a Brothel......... Is that where you're working now?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 3, 2019 22:06:00 GMT
i would love to meet some of those Swedish girls in a Brothel......... Is that where you're working now? Only in my 30 second dreams.......
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Post by oldgas on Jul 4, 2019 5:10:38 GMT
i would love to meet some of those Swedish girls in a Brothel......... Is that where you're working now? Yeah, he's one of the Eunuchs!
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Post by Gassy on Jul 4, 2019 6:53:06 GMT
Some fairer points in this post. My problem (again) was with your point about them not doing themselves favours for promoting the women game. They don't actually need to prove anything to anyone. As 2 posts at the top of this page says, its about the entertainment & enjoyment of football. We all know the women's game isn't as good as the mens, that's why a comparison is also stupid & pointless. If people want to slate the skill level or the game play, no problem But again, don't then bring up the men's game right after - that's what annoys me. You moan about standard of corners, yet I gave you a WC & Euros example of even worse - but you've failed to really comment on that. We have to expect them to be of a high quality, but in their own game. Did you watch the Norway game? I didn't see people moaning about a bad corner then. It's because we came across a much better team & the part that's annoying is that last night it will have been a lot of peoples first women game & they'll now just assume this for all women's football. I work from home (or hardly at all today lol) and I listen to 5Live pretty much all day - what record have BBC said surpassed in comparisons to mens? I agree, that is dangerous, but I haven't heard it. If BBC were to make the comparison with 3rd, I would also slate it as you can't have it both ways. But it's one thing to say "it's been a good year for English football, 3rd for women and 4th for men" and another to say "the women got further than the men, therefore they're better & we should compare". I hope the phraseology was explained by my previous post - it's not a good advert if basic skills are lacking in what should be a showpiece occasion, and by contrast yeah you did bring up some relevant examples from the men's game but I'm specifically referring to the semis and final of a world cup as the world cup is basically the crown jewel of the football calendar. I would be just as pointed if I saw Hazard shank a corner in the same manner against France in Russia, I certainly have no desire to run down women's football whilst trying to make a sacred cow out of men's football, far from it in fact. I simply expect the same from both sides of the fence - that they should be able to do the basics at that level. And again if it was one shanked corner then it probably wouldn't be worth mentioning, I'm talking about at least 4 incidents from 4 different players that I can point to last night, in a world cup semi-final, that demonstrated appalling levels of ability. Taken as a whole that does not reflect well on the standard of football if such teams can get 2 games away from being the best team in the world. I thought I was being kind in fact as I left out the penalty as that was pretty woeful! With regards to comparisons off the top of my head stuff like international appearance records - okay, slightly trivial example but even then the demands and participation levels are different so to say someone is 'football's leading cap holder' or whatever is still disingenuous. Also I noticed that the media painstakingly referred to "The first quadruple *in the men's game*" when referring to Man City's attempt to win every trophy this season, again it shouldn't need to be defined that way, it should be implicit. Each footballing code has it's own set of records and it wouldn't be fair to start saying "The first quadruple champions in world football!" etc. But that is just symptomatic of the attempts to try and make women's football more exciting I guess - I understand they do it to inspire girls but I doubt we will see commentators tell us if a man smashes a woman's record (and I wouldn't want them to). On another note and re:comparisons - I notice that there have been calls for the England team to be honoured for reaching the semi-finals like the men's England team were last year. Again, a total mis-match in terms of comparisons as competition is so much fiercer in men's football if only due to participation numbers. Quite aside from all that you should get nowt for being a semi-finalist, it means nothing in men's or women's football. Wales men's football team got sod all for being the first British team since England in '96 to reach a major international footballing semi-finals (quite right too) so I don't see why they are throwing honours at England's men's team and now want to throw honours at the women's team for glorious failure. Probably says everything about the sporting culture in Britain when there is a clamour for failure to be recognised. Thanks for the thoughtful post fella! I do understand where you're coming from, I think perhaps you have too high expectations at the moment in women football? Yeah the celebration of where we finish is an interesting one. But living abroad and my girlfriend being Croatian (yes - last year's semi final was absolute bollocks), finishing 3rd/4th seems to be just an English thing. Croatia, as an example, finished 3rd in their first World Cup as an independent country from Yugoslavia, for them it was the greatest honour of all time. When England played Belgium in the 3 Vs 4, they were all supporting England and genuinely couldn't understand why I wasn't bothered. And tbh, I don't even know why we're not bothered. In theory we should be, bronze medal - top 3 in the world and getting the chance to end the tournament on a high. I don't think Germany would be so relaxed about it as we would. I asked a Brazilian friend and he also said he'd definitely be bothered about finishing 3rd or 4th. If they do have one, in theory it makes sense though - their greatest ever finish in a World Cup & it gives girls the chance to thank them for inspiring the next generation. I guess they're now the forefront of 'girl power' and the women game and I do think that's worth celebrating in some way or form. But only if we finish 3rd though
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Post by tomylil on Jul 4, 2019 8:45:01 GMT
I don't know what the arguments are about on here. Of course the women's game isn't up to the standard of the men's. So what? If that criterion mattered so much, there'd be no-one at the Mem. They'd all be watching Man City or, even worse, at Trashton. I think the standard is pretty good in general. The games are entertaining, and the attitude of the players is like a breath of fresh air compared to the cynical male superstars we have to suffer nowadays. The reason people have an issue with the womens game is that it is not being allowed to develop and stand on its own two feet. BBC constantly harp on about the womens team and game as somehow worth being mentioned in the same sentence as the mens version when they are totally different . Sky BT BBC all sticking women ex players in as pundits when they have absolutely no experience of the games they are talking about boils my water its PC gone mad.I recall Alex Scott at a FA cup match saying "there's no better feeling than lifting the cup" How the f**k would she know ? I'm all for women playing football and any sport but the artificial hyping up is stupid, and costs a fortune as none of the players from the teams funded by the club are going to represent the first team or generate transfer income. Anyone who thinks its great go watch it and support it rather than issue platitudes from the comfort of your sofa. Despite the Banned word BBC majoring on the game the fact is the very top teams in England will be playing in front of less than 2,000 per home game across the next season. Tells you that most women football fans don't care for the product on offer either so a reality check is needed.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 4, 2019 9:04:51 GMT
I don't know what the arguments are about on here. Of course the women's game isn't up to the standard of the men's. So what? If that criterion mattered so much, there'd be no-one at the Mem. They'd all be watching Man City or, even worse, at Trashton. I think the standard is pretty good in general. The games are entertaining, and the attitude of the players is like a breath of fresh air compared to the cynical male superstars we have to suffer nowadays. The reason people have an issue with the womens game is that it is not being allowed to develop and stand on its own two feet. BBC constantly harp on about the womens team and game as somehow worth being mentioned in the same sentence as the mens version when they are totally different . Sky BT BBC all sticking women ex players in as pundits when they have absolutely no experience of the games they are talking about boils my water its PC gone mad.I recall Alex Scott at a FA cup match saying "there's no better feeling than lifting the cup" How the f**k would she know ? I'm all for women playing football and any sport but the artificial hyping up is stupid, and costs a fortune as none of the players from the teams funded by the club are going to represent the first team or generate transfer income. Anyone who thinks its great go watch it and support it rather than issue platitudes from the comfort of your sofa. Despite the Banned word BBC majoring on the game the fact is the very top teams in England will be playing in front of less than 2,000 per home game across the next season. Tells you that most women football fans don't care for the product on offer either so a reality check is needed. Literally every point you've made is wrong, it's quite hilarious. Most women in England are very interested in the World Cup, the fact that 11.7million people watched the England semi final says a lot. Alex Scott was a very good player in women football. She also scored the winner at the UEFA women cup final. She knows a lot more about football than anyone on this forum, never mind people such as Jeff Stelling, Jake Humphrey, Adrian Chiles, Mark Pougtach, Dan Walker, Mark Chapman & Colin Murray - just off the top of my head. But I guess you wouldn't complain if any of the met said it. They all come out with quotes like this, don't see you saying "how the f**k would he know"? Your comment " any sport but the artificial hyping up is stupid, and costs a fortune as none of the players from the teams funded by the club are going to represent the first team or generate transfer income" - why don't you write to Wael to close Bristol Rovers down then? Have you seen the accounts? Funny you haven't said that for any of the mens teams, in which I'd hazard a guess that 75% of English teams won't make money.
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Post by tomylil on Jul 4, 2019 10:03:03 GMT
The reason people have an issue with the womens game is that it is not being allowed to develop and stand on its own two feet. BBC constantly harp on about the womens team and game as somehow worth being mentioned in the same sentence as the mens version when they are totally different . Sky BT BBC all sticking women ex players in as pundits when they have absolutely no experience of the games they are talking about boils my water its PC gone mad.I recall Alex Scott at a FA cup match saying "there's no better feeling than lifting the cup" How the f**k would she know ? I'm all for women playing football and any sport but the artificial hyping up is stupid, and costs a fortune as none of the players from the teams funded by the club are going to represent the first team or generate transfer income. Anyone who thinks its great go watch it and support it rather than issue platitudes from the comfort of your sofa. Despite the Banned word BBC majoring on the game the fact is the very top teams in England will be playing in front of less than 2,000 per home game across the next season. Tells you that most women football fans don't care for the product on offer either so a reality check is needed. Literally every point you've made is wrong, it's quite hilarious. Most women in England are very interested in the World Cup, the fact that 11.7million people watched the England semi final says a lot. Alex Scott was a very good player in women football. She also scored the winner at the UEFA women cup final. She knows a lot more about football than anyone on this forum, never mind people such as Jeff Stelling, Jake Humphrey, Adrian Chiles, Mark Pougtach, Dan Walker, Mark Chapman & Colin Murray - just off the top of my head. But I guess you wouldn't complain if any of the met said it. They all come out with quotes like this, don't see you saying "how the f**k would he know"? Your comment " any sport but the artificial hyping up is stupid, and costs a fortune as none of the players from the teams funded by the club are going to represent the first team or generate transfer income" - why don't you write to Wael to close Bristol Rovers down then? Have you seen the accounts? Funny you haven't said that for any of the mens teams, in which I'd hazard a guess that 75% of English teams won't make money. Disagee with everything you say. 60,000 people watched Athletico Madrid women in a one off match and they are back to gates of 600. Alex Scott was a good WOMAN footballer and has no experience of the male game. the men you mention are not pundits they are presenters whose views on the game are irrelevant and I personally have no issue with someone like Gabby Logan in that role who is far superior to the likes of Stelling and Chiles but no better than Murray Chapman or Pougatch. Scott et als presence is simply pandering to the pc brigade as they have no relevant experience or insight into the games they are placed to comment upon. It is ludicrous, and the fact that they know more about football than a bunch of hasbeens on a forum is irrelevant. Taking your comment about the cost of teams, if Rovers were getting a few hundred watching them I daresay I wouldn't have to contact Wael, he'd shut us down himself.The fact is, the glory of a promotion or cup run and the associated exposure is what drives rich people to water money against the wall on lesser football clubs . Such a dream simply doesn't exist for any womens team associated with a professional football club, and neither does the possibility of unearthing or developing a player worth serious money which we have managed down the years.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 4, 2019 10:04:29 GMT
Is that where you're working now? Yeah, he's one of the Eunuchs! Well i do have a DSO !
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