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Post by philbemmygas on Jun 6, 2019 11:08:29 GMT
Worked so hard signing any deal, so they could look like heroes lol. If it was that good of a deal, we would have signed it. Every time I have asked him a question, I have always had a response within hours. So he hasn't really gone missing. He's probally fed up of being abused every time he posts something though lol. Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. I am afraid abuse doesn't come with the job; that is just blatant ignorance on the part of those doing it. Constructive criticism is acceptable, but abuse not in my opinion
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 6, 2019 11:20:18 GMT
Worked so hard signing any deal, so they could look like heroes lol. If it was that good of a deal, we would have signed it. Every time I have asked him a question, I have always had a response within hours. So he hasn't really gone missing. He's probally fed up of being abused every time he posts something though lol. Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. The UWE didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree a deal, the particulars of which I am sure will come out over time. But there seems to be an agenda at play within our club. Why else would we have a chairman, sat on effective gardening leave and also some privileged posters close to the presidents club being drip fed nuggets of information to suit their own agendas, which play directly against the owners at times. I would say its those people that equally need to come clean instead of hiding behind their "source". Especially as they think they are all the more qualified to run the club based on them being such minority shareholders their own shares amount to about the value of a few season tickets and also think themselves to be special advisors to what might be coming next. I know I haven't been the boards biggest fan, probably in the past one of their biggest critics on here, but I see an attempt at a power play here for no other gain other than whats at stake for themselves, at the expense of our club/the ALQ family. Thats cancer that needs to be cut out.
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Post by glengas on Jun 6, 2019 11:24:18 GMT
Wael Al-Qadi owes the staff, players, shareholders and supporters an explanation as to why Bristol Rovers seems to have come off the rails. Hugely in debt and no sign of the stadium which Nick Higgs and Ed Ware had worked so hard to bring about, a derelict training ground, and it seems, the momentum in promotion which had existed just evaporated. Will Wael Al-Qadi turn up next week to the AGM and give us some answers to the many questions which do need a response? Or will he be missing as per recently on the internet where he was once so prolific? Worked so hard signing any deal, so they could look like heroes lol. If it was that good of a deal, we would have signed it. Every time I have asked him a question, I have always had a response within hours. So he hasn't really gone missing. He's probally fed up of being abused every time he posts something though lol. Daniel, no disrespect but have you ever asked him a difficult question? No doubt he has received some abuse on line and that is bang out of order, but that is very different to turning up to an AGM and answering questions.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 6, 2019 11:45:34 GMT
Worked so hard signing any deal, so they could look like heroes lol. If it was that good of a deal, we would have signed it. Every time I have asked him a question, I have always had a response within hours. So he hasn't really gone missing. He's probally fed up of being abused every time he posts something though lol. Daniel, no disrespect but have you ever asked him a difficult question? No doubt he has received some abuse on line and that is bang out of order, but that is very different to turning up to an AGM and answering questions. But where has Wael stated that he isn't turning up to the AGM?
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 6, 2019 11:49:21 GMT
Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. I am afraid abuse doesn't come with the job; that is just blatant ignorance on the part of those doing it. Constructive criticism is acceptable, but abuse not in my opinion Totally agree. Don't tell Wael he's sh**e at his job, tell him to stop being sh**e at his job.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2019 11:55:35 GMT
Worked so hard signing any deal, so they could look like heroes lol. If it was that good of a deal, we would have signed it. Every time I have asked him a question, I have always had a response within hours. So he hasn't really gone missing. He's probally fed up of being abused every time he posts something though lol. Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. He does take the abuse. He does not have to respond to it though and if he did decide to leave we would be knackered lol. If it was a good deal for us, we would have signed it, it does not take a lot of working out lol. If it was a good deal, finance wouldn't have been a problem. Even if that wanted to sell the club, if it was a good deal, the club would have been worth a lot more. Giving away naming rights, loads of the stadium was for Uwe, so wouldn't have been brining in money. Ie jogging track, lecture halls, student bars, car park for them on non match days. All of that was said at the initial meetings and press conferences. So it does not take a lot, to see why it was a bad deal!! How we were ever going to bring in extra revenue, when we were giving away all that lol.
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 6, 2019 11:58:20 GMT
Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. He does take the abuse. He does not have to respond to it though and if he did decide to leave we would be knackered lol. If it was a good deal for us, we would have signed it, it does not take a lot of working out lol. If it was a good deal, finance wouldn't have been a problem. Even if that wanted to sell the club, if it was a good deal, the club would have been worth a lot more. Giving away naming rights, loads of the stadium was for Uwe, so wouldn't have been brining in money. Ie jogging track, lecture halls, student bars, car park for them on non match days. All of that was said at the initial meetings and press conferences. So it does not take a lot, to see why it was a bad deal!! How we were ever going to bring in extra revenue, when we were giving away all that lol. Just a shame they weren't civil about it and burnt their bridges...
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2019 12:00:32 GMT
Worked so hard signing any deal, so they could look like heroes lol. If it was that good of a deal, we would have signed it. Every time I have asked him a question, I have always had a response within hours. So he hasn't really gone missing. He's probally fed up of being abused every time he posts something though lol. Daniel, no disrespect but have you ever asked him a difficult question? No doubt he has received some abuse on line and that is bang out of order, but that is very different to turning up to an AGM and answering questions. He has asked some questions that I didn't think that he would. No doubt, if he was asked if he would be attending the AGM, he would answer. But it's easier for loads to moan about him on here. To moan that he might not turn up lol. Loads of people have moaned about stuff on here, when they could have just asked him and got an answer anyway lol.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2019 12:03:34 GMT
He does take the abuse. He does not have to respond to it though and if he did decide to leave we would be knackered lol. If it was a good deal for us, we would have signed it, it does not take a lot of working out lol. If it was a good deal, finance wouldn't have been a problem. Even if that wanted to sell the club, if it was a good deal, the club would have been worth a lot more. Giving away naming rights, loads of the stadium was for Uwe, so wouldn't have been brining in money. Ie jogging track, lecture halls, student bars, car park for them on non match days. All of that was said at the initial meetings and press conferences. So it does not take a lot, to see why it was a bad deal!! How we were ever going to bring in extra revenue, when we were giving away all that lol. Just a shame they weren't civil about it and burnt their bridges... We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue.
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 6, 2019 12:06:48 GMT
Just a shame they weren't civil about it and burnt their bridges... We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue. Of course you do, you also need a site and money to build it. How very problematic.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 6, 2019 12:13:32 GMT
Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. The UWE didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree a deal, the particulars of which I am sure will come out over time. But there seems to be an agenda at play within our club. Why else would we have a chairman, sat on effective gardening leave and also some privileged posters close to the presidents club being drip fed nuggets of information to suit their own agendas, which play directly against the owners at times. I would say its those people that equally need to come clean instead of hiding behind their "source". Especially as they think they are all the more qualified to run the club based on them being such minority shareholders their own shares amount to about the value of a few season tickets and also think themselves to be special advisors to what might be coming next. I know I haven't been the boards biggest fan, probably in the past one of their biggest critics on here, but I see an attempt at a power play here for no other gain other than whats at stake for themselves, at the expense of our club/the ALQ family. Thats cancer that needs to be cut out. One of the best posts on here in a very long time.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 6, 2019 12:22:22 GMT
Just a shame they weren't civil about it and burnt their bridges... We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue. Daniel how long have you been supporting Rovers? During that time apart from at the Mem itself how many times have we land a suitable site for a stadium and obtained full pp? Unless we move out to somewhere like Avonmouth I'd suggest it's almost impossible to find another site within a reasonable distance of the Mem where we're likely to get pp w/o a massive fight/delay.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 6, 2019 12:25:28 GMT
Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? We've simply no idea when a deal couldn't be agreed as Wael just hides behind NDA's, what is for certain is the UWE was a damn sight closer to us getting a decent stadium than anything Wael's produced. if Wael can't take abuse he should really sell up as, unfortunately, that goes with the job, as those being carried down Glos Rd during the good time. The UWE didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree a deal, the particulars of which I am sure will come out over time. But there seems to be an agenda at play within our club. Why else would we have a chairman, sat on effective gardening leave and also some privileged posters close to the presidents club being drip fed nuggets of information to suit their own agendas, which play directly against the owners at times. I would say its those people that equally need to come clean instead of hiding behind their "source". Especially as they think they are all the more qualified to run the club based on them being such minority shareholders their own shares amount to about the value of a few season tickets and also think themselves to be special advisors to what might be coming next. I know I haven't been the boards biggest fan, probably in the past one of their biggest critics on here, but I see an attempt at a power play here for no other gain other than whats at stake for themselves, at the expense of our club/the ALQ family. Thats cancer that needs to be cut out. That is also my concern given Knowall's connections, then again as debts spiral out of control perhaps they do have the club's long term interest at heart?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 6, 2019 12:27:14 GMT
He does take the abuse. He does not have to respond to it though and if he did decide to leave we would be knackered lol. If it was a good deal for us, we would have signed it, it does not take a lot of working out lol. If it was a good deal, finance wouldn't have been a problem. Even if that wanted to sell the club, if it was a good deal, the club would have been worth a lot more. Giving away naming rights, loads of the stadium was for Uwe, so wouldn't have been brining in money. Ie jogging track, lecture halls, student bars, car park for them on non match days. All of that was said at the initial meetings and press conferences. So it does not take a lot, to see why it was a bad deal!! How we were ever going to bring in extra revenue, when we were giving away all that lol. Just a shame they weren't civil about it and burnt their bridges... Who us or UWE?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2019 12:32:04 GMT
We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue. Of course you do, you also need a site and money to build it. How very problematic. Which takes years to look into. I'm sure they would rather carry on paying millions a year in losses though. Love how loads on here highlight all the bad points of the accounts etc, when it suits them. But ignore other parts. We were told the increase in other costs to over £3 million, was due to looking into Uwe and other negotiations etc. So if we have stopped looking into new sites, that figure should have come down. But no it stayed the same. That would suggest, we are still looking into potential sites. We were told the budget cut about 18 months ago by fans in the know and that they would not spend another penny. But guess what, it actually went up. I'm still only 50/50 on the board. But most of the rumours, have been proved to be rubbish. I said all along, we will find out more, when the accounts are published. As you can't hide cut backs etc. Even if they want out. They will stand a lot better chance of selling the club, if we have a potential stadium site. So I don't buy the rubbish spouted, that they have just stopped looking. I never expected any new site, to be announced for atleast another year anyway. C**y had the site, but it still took them over 2 years to plan there's, then it was announced. Uwe was worked on for years, before or was announced. Same at every club. Don't see why or fans seem to think, if anything is happening, they would know about it.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2019 12:35:23 GMT
We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue. Daniel how long have you been supporting Rovers? During that time apart from at the Mem itself how many times have we land a suitable site for a stadium and obtained full pp? Unless we move out to somewhere like Avonmouth I'd suggest it's almost impossible to find another site within a reasonable distance of the Mem where we're likely to get pp w/o a massive fight/delay. Didn't say it would be easy, that's why it takes time. Plus we would have to see if we can get planning etc for the mem, or what ever we decide to do. It is a hard task, that could take years. But better than signing a bad stadium deal.
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Post by Jomo on Jun 6, 2019 12:35:32 GMT
Just a shame they weren't civil about it and burnt their bridges... We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue. Seems like you "lol" quite a lot when you're typing out your posts 😉
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 6, 2019 12:37:03 GMT
The UWE didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree a deal, the particulars of which I am sure will come out over time. But there seems to be an agenda at play within our club. Why else would we have a chairman, sat on effective gardening leave and also some privileged posters close to the presidents club being drip fed nuggets of information to suit their own agendas, which play directly against the owners at times. I would say its those people that equally need to come clean instead of hiding behind their "source". Especially as they think they are all the more qualified to run the club based on them being such minority shareholders their own shares amount to about the value of a few season tickets and also think themselves to be special advisors to what might be coming next. I know I haven't been the boards biggest fan, probably in the past one of their biggest critics on here, but I see an attempt at a power play here for no other gain other than whats at stake for themselves, at the expense of our club/the ALQ family. Thats cancer that needs to be cut out. That is also my concern given Knowall's connections, then again as debts spiral out of control perhaps they do have the club's long term interest at heart? And once you work/find that out, and I'm not posting it, you'll probably work out where the leak is coming from. The last part of your post I'm sure has merit to it, I have no doubt the PC do care, we all care about our club, we are all investors in it. But it also depends on the actions of the ALQ family. For example whether the ALQ's will write some of the debt as lost investment (some owners do that), whether it gets paid via a takeover (know-all alludes to),or if Hani refuses to underwrite the debt, or if we are actually and truly in the do do. The only person(s) who positively know the answer to those questions are the owners themselves, otherwise its pure speculation, even if it is based on some (mis)information given by a chairman with an agenda at play.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2019 12:49:08 GMT
We were in talks for ages lol. Maybe we knew we were not going to agree. Better to find somewhere where we can build a stadium that will bring in money for us. Through sponsorship, through facilities for us or the general public, not for Uwe. You need more than just match day revenue. Seems like you "lol" quite a lot when you're typing out your posts 😉 Got to laugh, or I will cry! I know we need a stadium, we need other revenue streams. Just trying to help people see, it might still happen one day.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jun 6, 2019 12:51:09 GMT
That is also my concern given Knowall's connections, then again as debts spiral out of control perhaps they do have the club's long term interest at heart? And once you work/find that out, and I'm not posting it, you'll probably work out where the leak is coming from. The last part of your post I'm sure has merit to it, I have no doubt the PC do care, we all care about our club, we are all investors in it. But it also depends on the actions of the ALQ family. For example whether the ALQ's will write some of the debt as lost investment (some owners do that), whether it gets paid via a takeover (know-all alludes to),or if Hani refuses to underwrite the debt, or if we are actually and truly in the do do. The only person(s) who positively know the answer to those questions are the owners themselves, otherwise its pure speculation, even if it is based on some (mis)information given by a chairman with an agenda at play. Whoops - cat out of the bag time?
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