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Post by toddy1953 on Sept 3, 2019 12:11:18 GMT
And a weekend off from L1; so that they can get to know each others names. And just a thought, Bolton finished 20 points above Rovers best ever finish in L1NO - they finished 24 points behind us, Bury were only 19 points behind us tho 😁 1 Bristol Rovers 46 26 15 5 71 35 +36 93 Division Champions, promoted 2 Bristol City 46 27 10 9 76 40 +36 91 Promoted 3 Notts County 46 25 12 9 73 53 +20 87 Promoted through play-offs 4 Tranmere 46 23 11 12 86 49 +37 80 5 Bury 46 21 11 14 70 49 +21 74 6 Bolton 46 18 15 13 59 48 +11 69
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Post by peterparker on Sept 3, 2019 12:13:25 GMT
The lack of a points deduction for not fulfilling fixtures is really bugging me. Looking back I saw one club years ago was deducted two points for not fulfilling a fixture. Surely should be at least six points. If only two points for postponing a game is given to Bolton and they win the game when it is eventually replayed they would still be a point better off as they would surely have lost it if they had played it on the original date. I don't believe the EFL have dealt with the postponements yet, although aren't we sounding a bit desperate if the only way we can stay up is if Bolton have 20+ pts deducted, if that's the case we may as well accept relegation this season, as next season we'll have no chance of surviving if all 23 clubs start on zero points! why are we going down or something?
What is wrong with wanting Bolton properly punished
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Post by toddy1953 on Sept 3, 2019 12:14:13 GMT
The lack of a points deduction for not fulfilling fixtures is really bugging me. Looking back I saw one club years ago was deducted two points for not fulfilling a fixture. Surely should be at least six points. If only two points for postponing a game is given to Bolton and they win the game when it is eventually replayed they would still be a point better off as they would surely have lost it if they had played it on the original date. I don't believe the EFL have dealt with the postponements yet, although aren't we sounding a bit desperate if the only way we can stay up is if Bolton have 20+ pts deducted, if that's the case we may as well accept relegation this season, as next season we'll have no chance of surviving if all 23 clubs start on zero points! Agree, I think there will be further punishment. But for me it’s the advantage the other clubs who have played them have had over the rest - with 3 easy points & good GD. Although Coventry must be kicking themselves.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 3, 2019 12:16:54 GMT
I don't believe the EFL have dealt with the postponements yet, although aren't we sounding a bit desperate if the only way we can stay up is if Bolton have 20+ pts deducted, if that's the case we may as well accept relegation this season, as next season we'll have no chance of surviving if all 23 clubs start on zero points! Agree, I think there will be further punishment. But for me it’s the advantage the other clubs who have played them have had over the rest - with 3 easy points & good GD. Although Coventry must be kicking themselves. That's an issue with the transfer window. Bolton have kept themselves between the lines. It's the Football League at fault, not Bolton.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 3, 2019 12:18:02 GMT
I've emailed the EFL to find out when the investigation will be for not fulfilling the fixture.
I also asked what the case was/will be for last seasons as well
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Post by Marshy on Sept 3, 2019 12:20:34 GMT
I don't believe the EFL have dealt with the postponements yet, although aren't we sounding a bit desperate if the only way we can stay up is if Bolton have 20+ pts deducted, if that's the case we may as well accept relegation this season, as next season we'll have no chance of surviving if all 23 clubs start on zero points! Agree, I think there will be further punishment. But for me it’s the advantage the other clubs who have played them have had over the rest - with 3 easy points & good GD. Although Coventry must be kicking themselves. Especially for getting rid of JCH, numpties!
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Post by hollyhillgas on Sept 3, 2019 13:24:29 GMT
And a weekend off from L1; so that they can get to know each others names. And just a thought, Bolton finished 20 points above Rovers best ever finish in L1NO - they finished 24 points behind us, Bury were only 19 points behind us tho 😁 1 Bristol Rovers 46 26 15 5 71 35 +36 93 Division Champions, promoted 2 Bristol City 46 27 10 9 76 40 +36 91 Promoted 3 Notts County 46 25 12 9 73 53 +20 87 Promoted through play-offs 4 Tranmere 46 23 11 12 86 49 +37 80 5 Bury 46 21 11 14 70 49 +21 74 6 Bolton 46 18 15 13 59 48 +11 69
That was division 3 sorry Div2
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 13:28:31 GMT
What I don't understand is why he would be interested in Bolton, he was born in London area and has spent many years living in Corsham, Rovers are his nearest league club. He’s a Brummie... Anyway I don’t know what his link is to Bolton either. Mason's long term business partner, a lady called Sharon Brittan, asked him if he would be interested in investing. She is going to be the Chairwoman, and he is not expected to have any role at the club - apart from investing his money. There is a another guy who set up the consortium with her in January, with the aim of buying the club, and he is a life long Bolton fan. Mason has a Ferarri valued at £33m - now, if we could just persuade him to sell that and buy us a new ground.
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Post by gasstrictband on Sept 3, 2019 13:48:18 GMT
Mason, putting money into Bolton Wanderers, described as, a momentry lapse of reason.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 13:51:33 GMT
He’s a Brummie... Anyway I don’t know what his link is to Bolton either. Mason's long term business partner, a lady called Sharon Brittan, asked him if he would be interested in investing. She is going to be the Chairwoman, and he is not expected to have any role at the club - apart from investing his money. There is a another guy who set up the consortium with her in January, with the aim of buying the club, and he is a life long Bolton fan. Mason has a Ferarri valued at £33m - now, if we could just persuade him to sell that and buy us a new ground. Maybe Werton could ask him, he appears to be his pal. Funnily enough Werton Backwards is notrew or "not true" if you like. Make of that what you will.
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 3, 2019 13:53:59 GMT
I've emailed the EFL to find out when the investigation will be for not fulfilling the fixture. I also asked what the case was/will be for last seasons as well Answers on a postcard probably!
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 3, 2019 14:20:45 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Sept 3, 2019 14:41:36 GMT
I've emailed the EFL to find out when the investigation will be for not fulfilling the fixture. I also asked what the case was/will be for last seasons as well Answers on a postcard probably! Tbf they’re quite good at replying, usually take me 2-3 days though. However I’ve had some deep discussions (arguments?) on a few occasions with them over email - poor buggers are probably thinking ffs this tw*t is back again 😂 They’re hilarious conversations though, they’d made fantastic politicians over there. 1 discussion was on the Paint Trophy U21 debacle. The other was about us being away first and last game each season. It’s impressive how they manage to answer your question, without answering your question whilst pushing their agenda ignoring the fact you put to them 😂
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Post by aghast on Sept 3, 2019 14:42:06 GMT
There will be only three questions on the EFL agenda. 1) Have we been offered a bung? 2) How much is it? 3) Where do we sign?
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Post by axegas on Sept 3, 2019 14:53:53 GMT
There will be only three questions on the EFL agenda. 1) Have we been offered a bung? 2) How much is it? 3) Where do we sign? Greater Manchester police are looking into allegations of fraud within the club so adding bribery to that wouldn’t surprise me. Given the fact that Bury were expected to be relegated anyway, reinstatement to the division below doesn’t seem like a harsh enough punishment. I do feel sorry for the fans but if you run the club like a basket case, you should expect to be treated like one.
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Post by gasheadbou on Sept 3, 2019 16:33:15 GMT
I don't believe the EFL have dealt with the postponements yet, although aren't we sounding a bit desperate if the only way we can stay up is if Bolton have 20+ pts deducted, if that's the case we may as well accept relegation this season, as next season we'll have no chance of surviving if all 23 clubs start on zero points! why are we going down or something?
What is wrong with wanting Bolton properly punished
What is bugging me is Tranmere (and a couple of other teams) had an easy game against their u23s and won 5-0. What happens if we now lost, drew or only won 1-0 and were to go down instead of them on goal difference (or miss out on the play offs)!? I'm sure there will be one team at the end of this season feeling very hard done by as a result of all this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 16:44:55 GMT
Agree, I think there will be further punishment. But for me it’s the advantage the other clubs who have played them have had over the rest - with 3 easy points & good GD. Although Coventry must be kicking themselves. That's an issue with the transfer window. Bolton have kept themselves between the lines. It's the Football League at fault, not Bolton. Except of course the postponement against Doncaster which was called off seemingly without EFL consent. That in itself isn't acceptable.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 3, 2019 17:00:39 GMT
The lack of a points deduction for not fulfilling fixtures is really bugging me. Looking back I saw one club years ago was deducted two points for not fulfilling a fixture. Surely should be at least six points. If only two points for postponing a game is given to Bolton and they win the game when it is eventually replayed they would still be a point better off as they would surely have lost it if they had played it on the original date. I don't believe the EFL have dealt with the postponements yet, although aren't we sounding a bit desperate if the only way we can stay up is if Bolton have 20+ pts deducted, if that's the case we may as well accept relegation this season, as next season we'll have no chance of surviving if all 23 clubs start on zero points! Can’t speak for others but I’m not sure that that is the main problem with what some people have been saying. It’s been said, but more jokingly I would have said. For me, I’m not desperate for them to be penalised but I am keen to see justice being done and I’m pretty sure that after what happened at the end of last season and throughout the summer and the complete farcical nature of this league throughout August Bolton should be penalised more than they have been. That would be justice for all the other teams in this division if that comes over as being desperate they so be it. And I bet Bolton fans will start accusing other teams, the EFL and everyone else if they are further penalised which leads to them being relegated. UTG!
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Post by rosssgb on Sept 3, 2019 17:15:07 GMT
Was just about to post this, genuinely football is f**ked and corrupt even more so than I already thought. Basically the EFL will be looking to make a quick buck, from a club that owes hundreds of companies and individuals money. Absolutely sickening. As for Bolton taking out another huge loan, they could very well get promoted to the Championship next season - possibly even a playoff push this season with the squad they’ve managed to assemble! (can’t see the EFL giving them anymore punishments even though they’ve been picking and choosing when to play for the last two seasons). IMO as harsh as it is a few clubs needed to go bust to make the others realise that decisions such as paying Jermaine Beckford 10k p/w in League 2 on crowds of 3,000 is simply not sustainable. But no, now we have Bolton signing Championship quality players literally days after they were about to liquidate, players such as Bridcutt and Murphy I’d imagine are on at least 5k p/w wouldn’t be surprised if it’s closer to 10. All while they still probably owe ex-players and contractors money! Can you imagine if Lim and the class of 92 walked away from Salford and left them with Adam Rooney on 4k p/w, Richie Towell (who Rotherham in the Championship couldn’t match them wages wise for!) and others, it’s absolute crazytown and no wonder clubs are going bust and running at a loss. www.teamtalk.com/news/peterborough-chairman-involved-in-furious-pay-row-with-new-salford-city-signing
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Post by William Wilson on Sept 3, 2019 18:07:13 GMT
why are we going down or something?
What is wrong with wanting Bolton properly punished
What is bugging me is Tranmere (and a couple of other teams) had an easy game against their u23s and won 5-0. What happens if we now lost, drew or only won 1-0 and were to go down instead of them on goal difference (or miss out on the play offs)!? I'm sure there will be one team at the end of this season feeling very hard done by as a result of all this. Wouldn`t be at all surprised to see m`learned friends being consulted, come the season`s end. Farcical situation.
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