gasbath
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Post by gasbath on Aug 6, 2019 14:33:08 GMT
Some area of the club is not coming out of this looking very good. Wael says it’s a top half budget, the manager says we can’t compete with Blackpool. I can’t imagine Blackpool’s budget is top 7, if so that doesn’t leave much room for manoeuvre for Wael’s claim. From my POV it’s not a top half budget, if it is then bugger me it’s been badly squandered. How can we have a top half budget and yet still lack a half decent creative player? As far as signings go I think it all depends on whether Bennett is deemed surplus to requirements and if he is whether anyone else will take him on loan and pay a sizeable chunk of his wages. Wael never mentioned the play off's or top 6 so I'm guessing by top half budget he probably does mean somewhere between 8th to 12th.
I think we need to keep Bennett and add another. Bennett is the only creative player we have and would already have an assist to his name if Clarke had finished our best chance at Blackpool.
We need Bennett and another creative midfielder.
We also need to get some pace into our midfield because it's far too pedestrian.
I agree with the Bennett scenario I have always maintained he was a good player to me I would push him up with JCH he certainly with his quick feet would get a few shots off and less face it his goal ratio is no worse apart from JCH than anyone we have here currently. He draws players too him when in dangerous positions so would free up JCH more as is going to be a marked man this season Then I would drop Sercombe & put Nichols in that attacking point of diamond midfield role
as for signings we might get the lad from UCD over the line but unless we let Bennett go I cant see we will have the wage capacity to bring in anyone but a loan/youngster
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 6, 2019 14:53:13 GMT
One things for certain no one could ever get excited about a race between Ollie Clarke, Upson, Ogogo, Sercombe and Craig!! No pace whatsoever between them.
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Post by tbonegas on Aug 6, 2019 15:02:32 GMT
One things for certain no one could ever get excited about a race between Ollie Clarke, Upson, Ogogo, Sercombe and Craig!! No pace whatsoever between them. And yer mate Craig is even slower.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 6, 2019 15:28:56 GMT
Some area of the club is not coming out of this looking very good. Wael says it’s a top half budget, the manager says we can’t compete with Blackpool. I can’t imagine Blackpool’s budget is top 7, if so that doesn’t leave much room for manoeuvre for Wael’s claim. From my POV it’s not a top half budget, if it is then bugger me it’s been badly squandered. How can we have a top half budget and yet still lack a half decent creative player? As far as signings go I think it all depends on whether Bennett is deemed surplus to requirements and if he is whether anyone else will take him on loan and pay a sizeable chunk of his wages. First of all, pay off Payne's contract. Then sign players. Including signing on fee, removal expenses and temporary accommodation. That is for the "Free Signings"
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Post by blueblood1883 on Aug 6, 2019 16:48:44 GMT
I know Ched Evans name was touted on here.. Signed for Fleetwood today...
Says undisclosed six figure fee and a 2 year deal...
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Post by pirate on Aug 6, 2019 16:58:04 GMT
I know Ched Evans name was touted on here.. Signed for Fleetwood today... Says undisclosed six figure fee and a 2 year deal... The reality is we can't compete with 'big' clubs like Fleetwood for players.
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Post by pirate on Aug 6, 2019 16:59:53 GMT
Matt Godden [Peterborough - Coventry] Undisclosed
Caolan Lavery [Sheffield United - Walsall] Undisclosed
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 6, 2019 17:06:11 GMT
I know Ched Evans name was touted on here.. Signed for Fleetwood today... Says undisclosed six figure fee and a 2 year deal... He was never going to sign here. Fleetwood and Blackpool dark horses in our league. Can see them both in playoffs.
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Post by pirate on Aug 6, 2019 17:09:44 GMT
I know Ched Evans name was touted on here.. Signed for Fleetwood today... Says undisclosed six figure fee and a 2 year deal... He was never going to sign here. Fleetwood and Blackpool dark horses in our league. Can see them both in playoffs. Fleetwood have done the best business in League One during this window IMHO.
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Post by eastgas on Aug 6, 2019 17:11:33 GMT
Matt Godden [Peterborough - Coventry] Undisclosed Caolan Lavery [Sheffield United - Walsall] Undisclosed Godden would of been a very good signing for BRFC, I think we may have to see more forwards leave before we bring any in unfortunately
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 17:11:48 GMT
I'd have liked us to try and sign Jack Payne or Danny Mayor. Don't know enough to highlight others of similar style but feel our lack of creativity will be our downfall again this season. Can't see any other strikers coming in as we have a decent number (Quality v Quantity!).
The Scales deal seems to have gone. Shame as sounded quite an exciting prospect. I wonder if we will ever find out the truth if it fails to happen?
At best we may get a last minute loanee and GC will report being happy with what he's got.
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Post by eastgas on Aug 6, 2019 17:18:25 GMT
Some area of the club is not coming out of this looking very good. Wael says it’s a top half budget, the manager says we can’t compete with Blackpool. I can’t imagine Blackpool’s budget is top 7, if so that doesn’t leave much room for manoeuvre for Wael’s claim. From my POV it’s not a top half budget, if it is then bugger me it’s been badly squandered. How can we have a top half budget and yet still lack a half decent creative player? As far as signings go I think it all depends on whether Bennett is deemed surplus to requirements and if he is whether anyone else will take him on loan and pay a sizeable chunk of his wages. I agree with our budget situation however with GC saying we can’t compete with Blackpool for players they have raised a fair sum of money from player sales this summer. Also when he says we can’t compete maybe they are paying over the odds on wages which he has stated he will not do. It’s only a possibility as I have no idea on the contract given to nuttall is, but they may be paying an extortionate amount in wages to him on a level that we aren’t prepared to go to rather than we just can’t afford it
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Post by Colyton Gas on Aug 6, 2019 17:18:29 GMT
English Football League
Harry Arter [Bournemouth - Fulham] Loan
Ched Evans [Sheffield United - Fleetwood] Undisclosed
Alvaro Gimenez [Almeria - Birmingham] £1.4m
Matt Godden [Peterborough - Coventry] Undisclosed
Paul Jones [Fleetwood - Sheffield Wednesday]
Caolan Lavery [Sheffield United - Walsall] Undisclosed
Sam Surridge [Bournemouth - Swansea] Loan
Wayne Rooney [DC United - Derby] Undisclosed*
* Deal to go through on 1 January 2020
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Post by Gas1977 on Aug 6, 2019 17:27:33 GMT
I know Ched Evans name was touted on here.. Signed for Fleetwood today... Says undisclosed six figure fee and a 2 year deal... The reality is we can't compete with 'big' clubs like Fleetwood for players. im making up figures here: I’d estimate that we get x2.5 their attendance on matchdays, so how can do they fit into this protocol Wael was talking about. It’s been made publicised that an owner can invest up to 15 mill in 1 year (In the champ) so surely we can but Wael simply doesn’t. I reckon he is making excuses again. Fleet wood took 125 fans to Peterborough??? So how on earth can they spend significantly more than us? Anyone know?
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Post by poorblue on Aug 6, 2019 17:30:04 GMT
Some area of the club is not coming out of this looking very good. Wael says it’s a top half budget, the manager says we can’t compete with Blackpool. I can’t imagine Blackpool’s budget is top 7, if so that doesn’t leave much room for manoeuvre for Wael’s claim. From my POV it’s not a top half budget, if it is then bugger me it’s been badly squandered. How can we have a top half budget and yet still lack a half decent creative player? As far as signings go I think it all depends on whether Bennett is deemed surplus to requirements and if he is whether anyone else will take him on loan and pay a sizeable chunk of his wages. I stand to be corrected but I recall Wael stating the playing budget this season was the Maximum allowed under fair pay regulations. I believe that is 90% of income??? If the fans want more then try more fans coming to games, spend more in the bars and buy more pies. You might then get your dreams come true live in hope
Therefore he is not putting the club into a threat of fines by the FA. (horror this means Wael is not putting his own money in as other owners do if not against the regs certainly morally wrong.) I don't recall GC saying he has spent all the budget yet. If I recall most managers would hold back an emergency spend for the January sales window
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 6, 2019 17:31:35 GMT
Saw Matt Goden a few times last year, wasnt all that impressed with him.
Surprised Caolan Lavery has gone to Walsall. Good signing for them.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 6, 2019 17:34:08 GMT
The reality is we can't compete with 'big' clubs like Fleetwood for players. im making up figures here: I’d estimate that we get x2.5 their attendance on matchdays, so how can do they fit into this protocol Wael was talking about. It’s been made publicised that an owner can invest up to 15 mill in 1 year (In the champ) so surely we can but Wael simply doesn’t. I reckon he is making excuses again. Fleet wood took 125 fans to Peterborough??? So how on earth can they spend significantly more than us? Anyone know? Spending £200k in this league now is peanuts. To sign a well rated player is £500k plus. Sunderland spent £4m on Will Grigg in January. We have spent 6 figures on players in the last couple of years. Not gotten us very far, its a gamble like anything else.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2019 17:44:14 GMT
The reality is we can't compete with 'big' clubs like Fleetwood for players. im making up figures here: I’d estimate that we get x2.5 their attendance on matchdays, so how can do they fit into this protocol Wael was talking about. It’s been made publicised that an owner can invest up to 15 mill in 1 year (In the champ) so surely we can but Wael simply doesn’t. I reckon he is making excuses again. Fleet wood took 125 fans to Peterborough??? So how on earth can they spend significantly more than us? Anyone know? The Fleetwood owner is happy to use the club as a play thing, even his utility business is based at the ground, he's the NW equivalent of FGR's Dale Vince, problem is what happens if he ever gets bored like Max Griggs (Dr Martins) did at Rushden & Diamonds or his firm goes bust as a few utility co's seem to have done lately? I'd sooner we try and build a viable long term club which isn't totally dependent on sugar daddy, although at present we still seem dependent on the ALQ's supporting the annual losses.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 6, 2019 17:49:38 GMT
He was never going to sign here. Fleetwood and Blackpool dark horses in our league. Can see them both in playoffs. Fleetwood have done the best business in League One during this window IMHO. Certainly some good business done there, just a shame about their manager.
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Post by gregsy on Aug 6, 2019 18:41:37 GMT
I see that shankland dude who was mentioned here last year and scored 50 odd goals for Ayr last season banged in 4 on his debut for dundee united....
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