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Post by Gas1977 on Aug 14, 2019 17:17:27 GMT
Surely rivalry is irrelevant as he signed Smith from Sheffield united when he has said his wife and son have STs at Sheffield Wednesday?
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 14, 2019 18:28:18 GMT
National press? Well prestigious site that.
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Post by rex on Aug 14, 2019 19:14:39 GMT
A clue is in the name 'Celtic'. They were founded by Irishmen in Glasgow to help the east end community in Glasgow which is where the majority of Irish who went to Scotland ended up after the famine. They describe themselves as 'a Scottish club with Irish roots' so I would say it's entirely natural for an Irishman to have a soft spot for them, it doesn't make anyone a bigot. Please point out where I said it did...?? I just said it was unhelpful and in bad taste. You didn't, others had inferred his comments were 'sectarian'. If you think that someone expressing a preference for a football team is in bad taste, and that quite literally, is all GC has done, then I think we will have to agree to differ.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 14, 2019 19:21:32 GMT
I see the willy wavers are on tonight
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 14, 2019 19:36:56 GMT
I see the willy wavers are on tonight Only tonight?
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Post by oldgas on Aug 14, 2019 20:47:46 GMT
It was a joke. Does no one have a sense of humour anymore??! Too many snow flakes about now. I disagree. We're trying as a society to move away from negative judgements based on religion, gender, sexuality etc. These comments are ill-judged and don't help. Not saying it's the most offensive comment in the world, but things have changed and jokes like this seem out of place to me. FFS. Words fail, they really do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 21:27:10 GMT
Shockingly bigoted comments from somebody in a senior position at an English football: "Asked whether he was in for McPake, the Irish manager responded in complete shock at the question. He replied: “From Rangers? Rangers? Are you actually telling me I am going to be signing a Rangers player? If he was from Celtic I might think about it. “I haven’t seen that, I haven’t read that, I will go home and have a look and see where that has come from. “It is the first I have heard of it." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bristol-rovers-boss-graham-coughlan-3208773 Really? Do you have no sense of humour? Tongue in cheek from GC. But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 14, 2019 21:33:27 GMT
Really? Do you have no sense of humour? Tongue in cheek from GC. But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances is very poor. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and telling their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t bring sinister sectarianism into it, it’s just yet more evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC. Did you ever consider GC may have said this with a smile on his face, a little laugh and offer the interviewer a cheeky wink when he said it? The last two pages of this thread have been cringeworthy, if not hideous to say the least. “Bigoted comments”, absolutely laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 21:50:48 GMT
But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances is very poor. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and telling their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t bring sinister sectarianism into it, it’s just yet more evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC. Did you ever consider GC may have said this with a smile on his face, a little laugh and offer the interviewer a cheeky wink when he said it? The last two pages of this thread have been cringeworthy, if not hideous to say the least. “Bigoted comments”, absolutely laughable. I find it an irrelevant comment to make in the first place, no matter how he said it. Comment on other team’s players from the perspective of Rovers manager, not your own personal perspective. There is the (remote) chance a McPake (or any other Rangers player) would hear that ‘joke’ and decide they don’t want to play for GC if offered the chance. If he says nothing then it’s not a problem- so it could *potentially* have real world ramifications.
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Post by piratesquarters on Aug 14, 2019 21:53:05 GMT
Really? Do you have no sense of humour? Tongue in cheek from GC. But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC. So you don't like him then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 21:59:12 GMT
But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC. So you don't like him then. I think he did a great job of keeping us up- I’ll be the first to admit that. However if Guardiola’a footballing philosophy is War and Peace I think GC’s is a Spot the Dog colouring book. His comments about Reilly were in poor taste too and this latest comment of his is just more facepalm-worthy media work, although I should stress I don’t necessarily blame him for that, you can see he doesn’t have a clue and has been thrust into the limelight without any coaching on how to handle it. I just hope the club offer him some advice on how to handle interviews and manage players better.
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Post by noblegas on Aug 15, 2019 5:36:51 GMT
I disagree. We're trying as a society to move away from negative judgements based on religion, gender, sexuality etc. These comments are ill-judged and don't help. Not saying it's the most offensive comment in the world, but things have changed and jokes like this seem out of place to me. FFS. Words fail, they really do. Go on then, I'll bite. Why do words fail you? What part of my post specifically do you take issue with?
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Post by rex on Aug 15, 2019 5:41:46 GMT
Really? Do you have no sense of humour? Tongue in cheek from GC. But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC.Dear God please save us from ANYONE who 'speaks through a PR guy' As for DC, I can't think of a manager who was any less 'PR speak'! 'That lot down the road' and 'Print that bastard' spring to mind! I am really struggling to get my head round that anyone could be even mildy miffed by GCs comment!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 15, 2019 5:55:13 GMT
I see the Willy wavers are again out in force, must be the weather
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Post by Gassy on Aug 15, 2019 6:30:09 GMT
Most of the time I'm on the side of the snowflakes here, especially when it comes to racist & sexist jokes. I think to move on in society we need to pull up on some of these jokes in order to raise awareness. Too often is it easy to hide behind the whole "here come the snow flakes" - like it gives you a reason to now say whatever you want.
However on this occasion, I really don't see anything wrong with GC's joke here. And to call his remark bigoted - f*ck me.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Aug 15, 2019 6:51:03 GMT
Really? Do you have no sense of humour? Tongue in cheek from GC. But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC. I like your analogy, but can I just make the point that our heavily franchised neighbours are a selling club so therefore a player becoming available for loan seems pretty remote.. Sorry I just couldn't resist...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 9:52:53 GMT
But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC.Dear God please save us from ANYONE who 'speaks through a PR guy' As for DC, I can't think of a manager who was any less 'PR speak'! 'That lot down the road' and 'Print that bastard' spring to mind! I am really struggling to get my head round that anyone could be even mildy miffed by GCs comment! It’s not being miffed- just a reaction of face-in-palm because it’s unnecessary. I get your point about DC but what I’m trying to say is his ‘uncultured media work’ was relatively benign and played up to the Rovers fans which expresses character rather than bland platitudes. Perhaps GC noted DC’s appeal and has tried to do the same however he’s ended up putting his foot in his mouth imo. It’s unlikely but not impossible that the likes of Steven Gerrard would not consider sending players to us now because the manager has made flippant comments about how he would never sign Rangers players because of his heritage, heritage that has nothing to do with the club he is paid to manage. Entirely needless imo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 9:54:02 GMT
But it’s not really funny. He’s in charge of Bristol Rovers not Celtic and so shouldn’t be giving Rovers fans the impression he *might* not sign Rangers players because of his personal allegiances. Nevermind that his club allegiances should be irrelevant while he is paid to be Rovers manager. It’s like me going to manage Portsmouth and joking to their fans I’m not going to bloody well sign Bristol City players- why do their fans care where my loyalties lie? If a good Bristol City player comes up for loan I’d be expected to sign him if I could and rightly so. All in all I wouldn’t say there was any sinister sectarianism there, it’s just yet more foot in mouth by GC and evidence that the man should speak through a PR guy because he absolutely sucks at cultivating a public image. He is the very opposite of the warm and engaging DC. I like your analogy, but can I just make the point that our heavily franchised neighbours are a selling club so therefore a player becoming available for loan seems pretty remote.. Sorry I just couldn't resist... I like what you did there
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Post by peterparker on Aug 15, 2019 9:56:17 GMT
Dear God please save us from ANYONE who 'speaks through a PR guy' As for DC, I can't think of a manager who was any less 'PR speak'! 'That lot down the road' and 'Print that bastard' spring to mind! I am really struggling to get my head round that anyone could be even mildy miffed by GCs comment! It’s not being miffed- just a reaction of face-in-palm because it’s unnecessary. I get your point about DC but what I’m trying to say is his ‘uncultured media work’ was relatively benign and played up to the Rovers fans which expresses character rather than bland platitudes. Perhaps GC noted DC’s appeal and has tried to do the same however he’s ended up putting his foot in his mouth imo. It’s unlikely but not impossible that the likes of Steven Gerrard would not consider sending players to us now because the manager has made flippant comments about how he would never sign Rangers players because of his heritage, heritage that has nothing to do with the club he is paid to manage. Entirely needless imo. or perhaps Steven Gerrard is a bit more grown up and can see it was clearly tongue in cheek.
I am sure the first thing GC would do is thank Gerrard if we got x player on loan
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 15, 2019 9:59:25 GMT
God forbid our manager dares to display any kind of personality.
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