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Post by tbonegas on Sept 18, 2019 13:56:58 GMT
Thanks for the report Steve. I know it is your frustration coming through, but I feel there is no point in continuing in the vein of your opening comments now. This is the squad we have, until the next transfer window at least, and even then our focus will be just on keeping the one or two players that we have, that make a difference (JCH). No value in persisiting in lamenting the lack of the two or three players that could have transformed the squad into something more competitive. We tried, within our budget, and we have what we have. Exactly stevie boys constant moaning is getting on my flecking t I t s |
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Sept 18, 2019 14:03:39 GMT
There are a number of fans on this very forum who clearly state they'd be happy with a mid-table finish. There is a problem right there. Fans should not be happy with that. Lets be realistic we have to look at a top half finish this season as a massive step in the correct position and a foundation to push on and go further. There's nothing to suggest from previous seasons or our summer recruitment that we should be expecting to be challenging at the right end of the table. Ultimately until the majority of supporters see some serious improvement or investment then a mid table finish will be seen as a good result unless your a day dreamer! |
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Post by Hudson1883 on Sept 18, 2019 14:05:03 GMT
Dramatic doesn't even begin to cover it.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 18, 2019 14:06:05 GMT
For goodness sake ,cheer up , are you private 'we are all doomed' Frazer in disguise!we are on an upwards curve at last, the future is bright ,the future is blue and white
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Post by Jomo on Sept 18, 2019 14:10:47 GMT
Spot on. 'A club that's had it's heart ripped out' is a pathetic and embarrassing statement. It was only a matter of weeks ago a fellow League One club were removed from the Football League FFS. Wake up and get some perspective. We've got a steady, not spectacular budget for this division and we're trying to operate more within our means. We've brought in some decent players over the last 12 months and looking more settled on the pitch now. Our budget will be competitive for this division which is a great level to be at. This sense of entitlement amongst some is just ridiculous. Problem is, it is hardly a great selling point to get fans back we have a steady if not unspectacular budget and we grind out results. When the crowds did rise significantly it was on the back of back to back promotions and the fact we seemingly had ambitious owners to take us to a new level. Mind the gap and all that nonsense. Now that has evaporated we are left with the die hards who followed the club during non league, Twerton etc. We are pretty much back where we started I feel. If we were to secure a new stadium then that would give us a much needed boost, but that seems years off, if ever. I'm sure fans of the likes of Birmingham in the Championship, and Everton etc in the Prem have similar feelings of apathy. It's just the way it is. If we were top of L2 people would be going more regularly and the club would be bouncing. Yet we're midtable fodder in the division above and suddenly everything is really flat. I can understand it as it's human nature always wanting the next best thing. Once you get it, you want something more. I agree though with falsenumber9 that perspective is required. We can't go splashing cash we don't have in trying to be promotion candidates every season and in every division. It's doing that that did for Bury in the end. |
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 18, 2019 14:12:30 GMT
There are a number of fans on this very forum who clearly state they'd be happy with a mid-table finish. There is a problem right there. Fans should not be happy with that. Nobby
After last seasons struggles, a bit of consolidation in the mid to upper mid-table isn't that bad an aspiration.
We are not a bad side; there is clearly a few confidence issues coming into play when we come under pressure. However I can't see us being in trouble this season if we continue picking up points. - UTG
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 14:45:59 GMT
One of our problems is that we have a continental goalkeeper who parry’s and punches instead of catching That probably explains why we’ve never put in an offer for the likes of Buffon and Neuer. |
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Post by tomylil on Sept 18, 2019 14:54:00 GMT
I've noticed people on the match thread saying 3,500 even.
Not sure when we last averaged 10,000 - never mind 10,000 against Gillingham on a Tuesday Must be 30 bloody years. Gates are disappointing though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 14:58:39 GMT
I've noticed people on the match thread saying 3,500 even.
Not sure when we last averaged 10,000 - never mind 10,000 against Gillingham on a Tuesday Must be 30 bloody years. Gates are disappointing though. Probably closer to 50 years! In 1989 we were at Twerton and probably averaging closer to 5000. |
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Post by tomylil on Sept 18, 2019 15:07:11 GMT
Must be 30 bloody years. Gates are disappointing though. Probably closer to 50 years! In 1989 we were at Twerton and probably averaging closer to 5000. Looks like 1976 having just checked a website but not sure if its accurate. Bloody hell ! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 15:41:54 GMT
One of our problems is that we have a continental goalkeeper who parry’s and punches instead of catching Well he did none of that last night. Yes he got down quickly to parry a low hit cross/shot that was turned in for their goal. I for one would have been surprised if any keeper could have held onto that, let along parried to a place of safety. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 15:46:42 GMT
Not good reading for me. Error! |
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Post by keygas on Sept 18, 2019 16:24:12 GMT
I've noticed people on the match thread saying 3,500 even.
Not sure when we last averaged 10,000 - never mind 10,000 against Gillingham on a Tuesday Must be 30 bloody years. Gates are disappointing though. We played & lost 2-1 to Gillingham on Tuesday 27th November last season.The attendance that night was 6983 , so the missing 3500 seems to be a bit of an exaggeration. To me making ifollow available for everyone on a home night game seems crazy as I am sure it must have an effect on the gate as the option of paying £10 instead of getting home from work and battling through the Bristol traffic to attend the match pretty appealing. Even the clubs official webpage yesterday which I would have thought would have been trying to encourage people to attend & spend money on tickets, programmes ,food & drink etc was plugging Ifollow , which to me is counter productive. |
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Post by EastVanGas on Sept 18, 2019 16:31:01 GMT
Must be 30 bloody years. Gates are disappointing though. We played & lost 2-1 to Gillingham on Tuesday 27th November last season.The attendance that night was 6983 , so the missing 3500 seems to be a bit of an exaggeration. To me making ifollow available for everyone on a home night game seems crazy as I am sure it must have an effect on the gate as the option of paying £10 instead of getting home from work and battling through the Bristol traffic to attend the match pretty appealing. Even the clubs official webpage yesterday which I would have thought would have trying to encourage people to attend & spend money on tickets, programmes ,food & drink etc was plugging Ifollow , which to me is counter productive. The iFollow point is really interesting, and it would be interesting to see the numbers for how many we are selling for these mid week games. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 16:31:10 GMT
Thanks for the report Steve. I know it is your frustration coming through, but I feel there is no point in continuing in the vein of your opening comments now. This is the squad we have, until the next transfer window at least, and even then our focus will be just on keeping the one or two players that we have, that make a difference (JCH). No value in persisiting in lamenting the lack of the two or three players that could have transformed the squad into something more competitive. We tried, within our budget, and we have what we have. Exactly stevie boys constant moaning is getting on my flecking t I t s  |
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 18, 2019 16:54:51 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 18, 2019 17:49:06 GMT
Thanks Steve. Always good to read your report. And fair play to you for setting out your thoughts about the air around the club at the moment. People will disagree which is ok, this is a forum with lots of opinions and you’ve put yourself forward to be disagreed with. Although I dont agree with all you’ve said, at my last home match, Accrington, the air around the place wasn’t too far away from what you’ve described. But I don’t blame GC for this, I think he’s doing a good job on the field with what he’s got, a hard working team with little creativity who will grind out enough wins (I hope) to survive in this league.
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 18, 2019 18:00:15 GMT
I think the thread title is a touch exaggerated. We are a club in a bit of a transition on the field post DC and GC shaping his squad and with a few things behind the scenes off it. We are players light in a couple of areas and what looks like a now serious injury to one of the gem finds of the season so GC is very much working with what he has. Sercombe is also a bit match rusty as is Little a couple of games should see him back to what we know he can do and will give Cogs an option for a different formation too. I agree with most of your report. I just thought an interesting stay was that if we had closed out both the last home games for wins we would have been 4th. We really aren’t that far away. This division is mental and it could be as close as it was last year at both ends of the table. Fair enough 1981. But we didn’t and I think that was a part of Steve’s post (not that he needs me to speak for him). I absolutely agree that we aren’t far away in this division and there are some very fine lines between winning and not winning. And this season the top looks as close as the bottom did last year. And we are transitioning into a goodish team which is hard to beat almost despite the sense of frustration around the club. I didn’t go last night but I certainly got that impression at the Accrington match and tbh once the equaliser went in we didn’t really look likely to force a win and that was the impression I got from reading reports and following it last night. Well done GC and the team for getting results which I hope will keep us in this division despite all the off the field frustrations. UTG! |
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 18, 2019 18:43:42 GMT
I think the thread title is a touch exaggerated. We are a club in a bit of a transition on the field post DC and GC shaping his squad and with a few things behind the scenes off it. We are players light in a couple of areas and what looks like a now serious injury to one of the gem finds of the season so GC is very much working with what he has. Sercombe is also a bit match rusty as is Little a couple of games should see him back to what we know he can do and will give Cogs an option for a different formation too. I agree with most of your report. I just thought an interesting stay was that if we had closed out both the last home games for wins we would have been 4th. We really aren’t that far away. This division is mental and it could be as close as it was last year at both ends of the table. Fair enough 1981. But we didn’t and I think that was a part of Steve’s post (not that he needs me to speak for him). I absolutely agree that we aren’t far away in this division and there are some very fine lines between winning and not winning. And this season the top looks as close as the bottom did last year. And we are transitioning into a goodish team which is hard to beat almost despite the sense of frustration around the club. I didn’t go last night but I certainly got that impression at the Accrington match and tbh once the equaliser went in we didn’t really look likely to force a win and that was the impression I got from reading reports and following it last night. Well done GC and the team for getting results which I hope will keep us in this division despite all the off the field frustrations. UTG! You can tell Little and Sercs aren’t match fit. The injury to Hare changed the game, they were petrified of him. He put 4 crosses in the box in 2 mins each found a Rovers player and 1 flashed across the 6 yard box that nobody knocked in. My point is, there is so much doom and gloom about, but the football is ok, it’s not free flowing total football, but many teams in this league aren’t and we are better than last year and a consolidation year well inside the top half will do whilst Cogs builds his team. |
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 18, 2019 18:51:05 GMT
Fair enough 1981. But we didn’t and I think that was a part of Steve’s post (not that he needs me to speak for him). I absolutely agree that we aren’t far away in this division and there are some very fine lines between winning and not winning. And this season the top looks as close as the bottom did last year. And we are transitioning into a goodish team which is hard to beat almost despite the sense of frustration around the club. I didn’t go last night but I certainly got that impression at the Accrington match and tbh once the equaliser went in we didn’t really look likely to force a win and that was the impression I got from reading reports and following it last night. Well done GC and the team for getting results which I hope will keep us in this division despite all the off the field frustrations. UTG! You can tell Little and Sercs aren’t match fit. The injury to Hare changed the game, they were petrified of him. He put 4 crosses in the box in 2 mins each found a Rovers player and 1 flashed across the 6 yard box that nobody knocked in. My point is, there is so much doom and gloom about, but the football is ok, it’s not free flowing total football, but many teams in this league aren’t and we are better than last year and a consolidation year well inside the top half will do whilst Cogs builds his team. Thanks. Wasn’t there last night and I certainly agree with the last paragraph. UTG! |
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