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Post by blueridge on Dec 15, 2019 18:51:50 GMT
After the disappointment of the GC announcement last night and the way this has been handled - I feel the whole situation stinks. This has been going on a while and frankly GC I held you in high regard, but now I want to see the back of you ASAP. I thank you for turning the playing side of the club around and will be forever grateful but I really feel you've 'watered on your chips' in the way you and Mansfield have handled this. So good luck at Mansfield but I hope we, as club, do not have the misfortune of meeting you are your new club any time soon. Last night I felt that Tony Craig would be a good appointment as an interim Manager to maintain continuity, but thinking about it I would like to see Nathan Jones given the job. I thought his team last season were by far the best team to visit the Mem particularly with his attacking wing backs - I think they were the highest scoring team in the league - linking his style of football with what we already have would be great. He managed a team on limited resources and achieved much - perhaps the step up to Stoke just didn't fit but I feel an appointment here would be ideal for both parties. He's also not a Northener - Welsh I believe. Also does he have a connection with Tom Gorringe from their days at Brighton? The problem with change mid-season is that you are stuck between planning for the short term or the long term. During close season Jones would make a great appointment, if massively unrealistic. But even if he would come here and work for the wages and the budget and the facilities, are we willing to potentially throw away our tilt at promotion while he tries to get a quality tune out of players who have been coached in how to win via the arts of the ugly side of the game? I hate the idea of what I am about to say as when GC got us to the summer I championed long term thinking at the club by sending GC on his way with a handsome bonus and trying to install a DOF who provide continuity between managers and implement a footballing philosophy. But no, we doubled down on GC and here we are a few minutes later back up sh** creek as we were a year ago. But it really does seem our best approach is to try and maintain continuity. GC doesn't seem to have a discernible strategy apart from getting 100% out of the players so with that in mind Tony Craig seems the best option to try and basically do a GC impression until the end of the season. We probably need him playing too though which represents a major hurdle to be overcome. Good post 365 - although I don't think Nathan Jones is unrealistic.
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 15, 2019 19:51:59 GMT
Forgotten about Nathan jones, so my list would be with Paul Tisdale and Michael Flynn. Still fuming over the timing.
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Post by cj on Dec 15, 2019 23:07:02 GMT
It will probably be our current number 2. Joe Dunne.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 23:09:07 GMT
It will probably be our current number 2. Joe Dunne. according to bristol lives exclusive he'd take Dunne with him
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 23:10:43 GMT
Colin Murray bigging up ollie for the role and telling wael to give him a call - I'd have him back!
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 15, 2019 23:12:04 GMT
It will probably be our current number 2. Joe Dunne. Dunne is going with him - flat mates 😄Utg
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Post by wilkimania on Dec 15, 2019 23:21:45 GMT
Is it Nathan Jones that is meant to have the massive ego?
I was talking to somebody earlier about managers that have been linked to us over the years and it got me thinking about what happened to some of them. For example, what happened to Jim Magilton? I remember him being linked to us after Trolls went and then seemed to fall off the footballing world. Was in Australia last I knew but that was years ago.
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Post by gasincider on Dec 15, 2019 23:21:59 GMT
Colin Murray bigging up ollie for the role and telling wael to give him a call - I'd have him back! If you think about our financial issues, it must surely be the cheap, but not necessarily the worst option. Widdrington is a good mate of Wael, so could be him. Trouble is, he's not very popular in the club. Id guess it will be internal, so the other option would be Hargreaves who is respected by the players, with perhaps Mansell as his number 2, learning the ropes. Sorry if this has been posted already, but couldn't be bothered to read through all the previous posts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 23:48:39 GMT
Colin Murray bigging up ollie for the role and telling wael to give him a call - I'd have him back! If you think about our financial issues, it must surely be the cheap, but not necessarily the worst option. Widdrington is a good mate of Wael, so could be him. Trouble is, he's not very popular in the club. Id guess it will be internal, so the other option would be Hargreaves who is respected by the players, with perhaps Mansell as his number 2, learning the ropes. Sorry if this has been posted already, but couldn't be bothered to read through all the previous posts. it may work with Hargreaves especially with some of the youngsters coming through but it's very uninspiring and shows a massive lack of ambition. But we evolve I guess..... sick
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2019 0:08:09 GMT
Ian Culverhouse worth considering. Was number two alongside Paul Lambert as they took Norwich City from League One to the Premier League in successive seasons. Culverhouse did all the preparation and coaching during that time. Assistant to John Still at Dagenham and were in 2nd place in the Conference when he left to manage Kings Lynn Town. At King's Lynn he led them to 2nd spot in the Southern League Premier Division with 100 points, but missed out on promotion following a defeat in the play-off final. At the end of the 2018/19 season, Culverhouse led Kings Lynn to promotion. Finishing 2nd in the Southern League, they got through the play-offs to face the winner of the Northern Premier League play-offs. This was Warrington whom the Linnets defeated 3-2 securing a place in the National League North for 19/20. This season Culverhouse and Kings Lynn sit top of the National League North table with 44 points from 20 games and also beat higher level Dover Athletic in the FA Trophy. www.pinkun.com/local-football/king-s-lynn-town/ian-culverhouse-and-lincoln-city-1-6262309Paul Lambert said about him in the past: “My assistant boss Ian Culverhouse has a real eye for a player. If he reckons we should go for someone I will back his judgement 100 per cent.” “With the quality of the coaching, Ian has been equally as important as anybody who has ever played under me,” beamed Lambert. “I’m grateful to have such a good assistant. “When Ian suggests something in a game, I’ll say ‘go with it’. I trust him 100 per cent and if it goes wrong, I’ll take the blame.” As a youth team manager/coach at Wycombe, Culverhouse was responsible for helping to coach and develop the likes of Jordan Ibe, Matty Phillips, Matt Ingram, Josh Scowen, Khadeem Harris and Matty Cash. As Wycombe First Team Assistant Manager they finished 7th in the League Two play off positions during the 07/08 season.
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Post by oldgas on Dec 16, 2019 6:36:38 GMT
Does he live close by......🤔 No, Carlilse. The jobs his if he wants it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 16, 2019 7:13:33 GMT
Forgotten about Nathan jones, so my list would be with Paul Tisdale and Michael Flynn. Still fuming over the timing. All ambitious managers who'll probably want out after a few months working for our owners?
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Post by landrover on Dec 16, 2019 7:42:03 GMT
Forgotten about Nathan jones, so my list would be with Paul Tisdale and Michael Flynn. Still fuming over the timing. All ambitious managers who'll probably want out after a few months working for our owners? Too true. I would guess most managers want a club that ‘has a chance’. The fact that Coughlan spoke out when he did is revealing. Mansfield obviously represent that chance. Given how much they have spent on players and a new training ground, Coughlan must think it’s too good to turn down. Whereas we might well have peaked on Saturday. In fact I would think the Ipswich result was the last thing he wanted. Which is why his emotions got the better of him. He knew he was betraying the fans and wanted it out in the open. The family thing is a useful smokescreen. It’s all about ambition.
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Post by yetigas on Dec 16, 2019 8:07:54 GMT
All ambitious managers who'll probably want out after a few months working for our owners? Too true. I would guess most managers want a club that ‘has a chance’. The fact that Coughlan spoke out when he did is revealing. Mansfield obviously represent that chance. Given how much they have spent on players and a new training ground, Coughlan must think it’s too good to turn down. Whereas we might well have peaked on Saturday. In fact I would think the Ipswich result was the last thing he wanted. Which is why his emotions got the better of him. He knew he was betraying the fans and wanted it out in the open. The family thing is a useful smokescreen. It’s all about ambition. If its about ambition, he's taking one hell of a risk. Some managers seem to 'click' in some clubs and not others. GC has found a good chemistry in BRFC and is doing well - doesn't mean he can repeat it wherever he goes, whatever the training facilities may be. DC clicked with us for 4 years - I think because of his motivation after relegation, and the momentum that followed. I am doubtful he will repeat that anywhere else.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 16, 2019 8:11:32 GMT
Colin Murray bigging up ollie for the role and telling wael to give him a call - I'd have him back! Pundits will be bigging him up because he’s great value. I’m not sure myself. I don’t think we could afford him and his record in recent years isn’t great. Whatever happens, this is a massive opportunity for someone to come in and take us up. This league is average this year and we are in a great position. It makes the timing of this all the more strange.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 16, 2019 8:26:36 GMT
For what it's worth somebody like Paul Tisdale would do a good job
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Post by Gassy on Dec 16, 2019 8:33:28 GMT
Well it seems the board want someone with L1 experience, so that rules Hargreaves out.
Not sure on Tisdale, did terrible at MK this season - he's been past his best days at Exeter for a while now?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Dec 16, 2019 8:35:50 GMT
All ambitious managers who'll probably want out after a few months working for our owners? Too true. I would guess most managers want a club that ‘has a chance’. The fact that Coughlan spoke out when he did is revealing. Mansfield obviously represent that chance. Given how much they have spent on players and a new training ground, Coughlan must think it’s too good to turn down. Whereas we might well have peaked on Saturday. In fact I would think the Ipswich result was the last thing he wanted. Which is why his emotions got the better of him. He knew he was betraying the fans and wanted it out in the open. The family thing is a useful smokescreen. It’s all about ambition. All about ambition so he goes from top of league 1 to a much smaller club near bottom of league 2 Sure thing bud.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 8:36:45 GMT
Steve Cotterill. Great manager at this level.
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Post by landrover on Dec 16, 2019 9:13:02 GMT
Too true. I would guess most managers want a club that ‘has a chance’. The fact that Coughlan spoke out when he did is revealing. Mansfield obviously represent that chance. Given how much they have spent on players and a new training ground, Coughlan must think it’s too good to turn down. Whereas we might well have peaked on Saturday. In fact I would think the Ipswich result was the last thing he wanted. Which is why his emotions got the better of him. He knew he was betraying the fans and wanted it out in the open. The family thing is a useful smokescreen. It’s all about ambition. All about ambition so he goes from top of league 1 to a much smaller club near bottom of league 2 Sure thing bud. let me simplify it. Mansfield are underachieving, We are overachieving. The direction of travel, in all likelihood, is in opposite directions.
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