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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 16:14:32 GMT
I was right. You have given it the least amount of serious thought possible. Absolutely- I’ve just looked at what other clubs get away with. Putting someone on gardening leave because you're sacking them is totally different to someone on compassionate leave FOR UNDER TWO WEEKS!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 16:20:01 GMT
Absolutely- I’ve just looked at what other clubs get away with. Putting someone on gardening leave because you're sacking them is totally different to someone on compassionate leave FOR UNDER TWO WEEKS! Go on then, I’ll bite. What laws would a club be breaking by appointing an interim manager til summer and insisting on a period of 5 months compassionate leave?
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 16:46:41 GMT
Putting someone on gardening leave because you're sacking them is totally different to someone on compassionate leave FOR UNDER TWO WEEKS! Go on then, I’ll bite. What laws would a club be breaking by appointing an interim manager til summer and insisting on a period of 5 months compassionate leave? s.98 Employment Rights Act 1996 - Unfair Dismissal. S.95 defines Dismissal as occurring where subsection (1) (b) "the employee (that's Ben) terminates the contract ... in circumstances in which he is entitled ... by reason of the employer's conduct". I'm pretty sure you'd agree if your employer replaced you because you'd had a couple of weeks compassionate leave that their conduct was unreasonable. Right to compassionate leave: s.57A Employment Rights Act 96. There is no minimum period of employment to obtain that right. Next question.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 16:56:34 GMT
Go on then, I’ll bite. What laws would a club be breaking by appointing an interim manager til summer and insisting on a period of 5 months compassionate leave? s.98 Employment Rights Act 1996 - Unfair Dismissal. S.95 defines Dismissal as occurring where subsection (1) (b) "the employee (that's Ben) terminates the contract ... in circumstances in which he is entitled ... by reason of the employer's conduct". I'm pretty sure you'd agree if your employer replaced you because you'd had a couple of weeks compassionate leave that their conduct was unreasonable. Right to compassionate leave: s.57A Employment Rights Act 96. There is no minimum period of employment to obtain that right. Next question. Bloody hell, I should have sued the ass off my former employer then when I was off on compassionate leave to care for my cancer ridden father and they got a temp in to cover the work load. I was obviously being mugged off!
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 17:02:52 GMT
s.98 Employment Rights Act 1996 - Unfair Dismissal. S.95 defines Dismissal as occurring where subsection (1) (b) "the employee (that's Ben) terminates the contract ... in circumstances in which he is entitled ... by reason of the employer's conduct". I'm pretty sure you'd agree if your employer replaced you because you'd had a couple of weeks compassionate leave that their conduct was unreasonable. Right to compassionate leave: s.57A Employment Rights Act 96. There is no minimum period of employment to obtain that right. Next question. Bloody hell, I should have sued the ass off my former employer then when I was off on compassionate leave to care for my cancer ridden father and they got a temp in to cover the work load. I was obviously being mugged off! But when you wanted to return to work your previous employer presumably didn't say "No, sorry you can't come back until this prescribed date as we've decided your compassionate leave is for a minimum term" in the way you're suggesting we do to BG did they?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 17:17:28 GMT
Bloody hell, I should have sued the ass off my former employer then when I was off on compassionate leave to care for my cancer ridden father and they got a temp in to cover the work load. I was obviously being mugged off! But when you wanted to return to work your previous employer presumably didn't say "No, sorry you can't come back until this prescribed date as we've decided your compassionate leave is for a minimum term" in the way you're suggesting we do to BG did they? No, but as far as I understand it as well having the right to grant or deny compassionate leave the employer also has the right to set a duration so it would have been possible for them to tell I wasn’t to return until x date. I stand to be corrected on that though.
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 21, 2020 17:25:39 GMT
But when you wanted to return to work your previous employer presumably didn't say "No, sorry you can't come back until this prescribed date as we've decided your compassionate leave is for a minimum term" in the way you're suggesting we do to BG did they? No, but as far as I understand it as well having the right to grant or deny compassionate leave the employer also has the right to set a duration so it would have been possible for them to tell I wasn’t to return until x date. I stand to be corrected on that though. ..give up gas365 - he's got an answer for any reasonable comment or suggested course of action you make. There is no point continuing as he has his view, we're all wrong or stupid or both, and won't be swayed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 17:31:09 GMT
No, but as far as I understand it as well having the right to grant or deny compassionate leave the employer also has the right to set a duration so it would have been possible for them to tell I wasn’t to return until x date. I stand to be corrected on that though. ..give up gas365 - he's got an answer for any reasonable comment or suggested course of action you make. There is no point continuing as he has his view, we're all wrong or stupid or both, and won't be swayed. Haha, quite! Where’s that meme about arguing on the Internet....
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 17:33:15 GMT
But when you wanted to return to work your previous employer presumably didn't say "No, sorry you can't come back until this prescribed date as we've decided your compassionate leave is for a minimum term" in the way you're suggesting we do to BG did they? No, but as far as I understand it as well having the right to grant or deny compassionate leave the employer also has the right to set a duration so it would have been possible for them to tell I wasn’t to return until x date. I stand to be corrected on that though. Sure, that's open to the club but, at the risk of repeating myself, I suggest less than two weeks in is not yet the time to be having that discussion. Edit: sorry just re-read this. I'm pretty sure setting a duration relates to a maximum rather than minimum.
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 17:34:52 GMT
No, but as far as I understand it as well having the right to grant or deny compassionate leave the employer also has the right to set a duration so it would have been possible for them to tell I wasn’t to return until x date. I stand to be corrected on that though. ..give up gas365 - he's got an answer for any reasonable comment or suggested course of action you make. There is no point continuing as he has his view, we're all wrong or stupid or both, and won't be swayed. I asked you to comment on a potential situation, you gave a politician's answer because you obviously hadn't thought it through.
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Post by Big Jock on Jan 21, 2020 18:01:20 GMT
I'm watchin Th Wonderful Country with Robert Mitchum an Julie London on Film 4.
Its not bad tbh.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 21, 2020 18:04:08 GMT
I'm watchin Th Wonderful Country with Robert Mitchum an Julie London on Film 4.
Its not bad tbh.
Any tits in it? Or are they exclusively on this thread?
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 21, 2020 18:22:02 GMT
Well done Kampuchea. I never managed to persuade my sons to do that. I took them to the nearest local club. AFC Bournemouth and the youngest has kept with them. I did that in the league 2 days when they were staring at non league. I did it to avoid them becoming armchair Man U fans. My youngest has lived the dream over the past 5 years but is worried atm! Now I’m a st holder here as well as I love my live football and going with my son but I do feel a bit guilty over them not being true gasheads, although they were with me at the Mansfield and Grimsby games esp as I was introduced to Rovers by my grandad who watched our first ever league game in 1921 so when Im not here the link will be broken. It takes me about 5 hours for the round trip so I only catch 8/9 homes a season with a handful of away games so to do what you do deserves great respect. Good for you, great supporters. I hope you can keep the lad going but I understand it must be hard. Let’s hope you get some good news for all our sakes. Always UTG! How do you manage to get your season tickets to be a worthwhile investment, Wareham, if you have both? I assume Bournemouth is normally sold out most weeks, unlike us, sadly. So I can see why you might need one for them. Not a st holder at Rovers aghast. I see the misunderstanding, I’m a st at Bournemouth as well as my son, not as well as Rovers. Shame is that Rovers and AFCB are usually home on same Saturdays but I usually manage the games I do because the PL dont like 3.00 on a Saturday preferring Sundays! I should have been clearer. Part of my guilt I’m afraid aghast. When kids were young I couldn’t just disappear on a Saturday to go to Twerton or Eastville or the Mem. Can do now they’ve grown up and as I said see about 8/9 homes a season. Mind you I did most homes in Conference for some reason. Great stuff from Kampuchea though. UTG!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 21, 2020 18:25:58 GMT
I'm watchin Th Wonderful Country with Robert Mitchum an Julie London on Film 4.
Its not bad tbh.
Any tits in it? Or are they exclusively on this thread?
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Post by Marshy on Jan 21, 2020 18:33:00 GMT
Any tits in it? Or are they exclusively on this thread? Was she in the pointer sisters?
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Post by aghast on Jan 21, 2020 21:17:16 GMT
Same as I’ve said- he’s got til the summer off, it’s not rocket science is it? Results have not just nose dived they’ve fallen off a bloody cliff. As long as we don’t make him redundant or make it so he has no job to come back to then what.’s the issue? It’s a results business and like any other business that has a falling share price the custodians are looked to to take remedial action. Our mob are waiting to see what move a man on compassionate leave takes when they should be grasping the bull by the horns and making the decision to give him 5 months off- for everyone’s benefit. It's so obvious you've given this the least amount of serious thought possible. It literally doesn't stand up to a second's scrutiny. Ignoring for a second that there are probably Employment law implications to forcing someone into months of gardening leave because they've taken a couple of weeks compassionate leave, let's say we get Warnock in or give it to Maher full time. Results turn around and we get promoted automatically. Then what? Thanks for that Neil, but Ben's coming back to work now. Bye? You would accept that? You wouldn't be describing it as embarrassing? So as I see it, you're saying we shouldn't appoint a fixed-term interim manager in case he gets us promoted? If the stand-in is rubbish, then we can dump him with no remorse and revert to BG. But if he's really good, we have a dilemma? Is that really a serious objection or some nit-picking hypothetical nonsense? You might as well apply it to Maher in case we have a dramatic turnaround in form. And if that's a dangerous possibility, we'd better dump Maher and just let the players pick themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 21:20:53 GMT
Was she in the pointer sisters? No the Carpenters! Ffs can’t you see the framework behind her!
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 21, 2020 21:27:03 GMT
Was she in the pointer sisters? No the Carpenters! Ffs can’t you see the framework behind her! Was looking at the framework in front of her tbh.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 21, 2020 22:23:50 GMT
Waddock, Bolger, Sinclair.... Pipe. And don’t forget Colin Dobson, a mainstay if our 73/73 promotion team. Very good but underrated player, but not by me. UTG!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 21, 2020 23:01:03 GMT
Was she in the pointer sisters? They are the Pointer sisters
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