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Post by stevek192 on Mar 2, 2020 10:29:04 GMT
It is an absolute joke that with just one win in 17 and that was against ten players for half the game that the same players appear week in week out. Why bring players in Mr garner if you aren't going to play them? Ollie Clarke and Leahy are IMO total liabilities and are like playing with nine men.2 wingers are both a waste of space because our midfield are not capable of bringing them into the game so all they get as regards service is the boot ups from our defenders and goalkeeper! Personally assuming JCH is injured on Saturday I would go to attack Southend and press up on their defence
Blackman
O Hare or Little Kilgour Harries THD
Bennett Barrett Upson Mitchell-Lawson or Ginnelli
Rodman Daly
subs- Any of whats left!
Without any of the slow ones left in the back four we can afford to press from the front and push up
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 2, 2020 10:38:13 GMT
Clark and Leahy were playing in our 'promotion' squad up to December.
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Post by pirate on Mar 2, 2020 10:47:43 GMT
I wouldn't have Barrett in the side until he gets fully fit and I'm not sure he is capable of playing in a 2 anyway. Bennett shouldn't be considered. Why play Rodman as a central striker and not in the position he's generally played in over the past few years? I.e. on the wing. No more square pegs in round holes please. It's just Hare by the way and not O Hare.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 2, 2020 10:48:21 GMT
If we had replaced them in January with a decent striker and a creative midfielder we could still have been a "promotion squad". We didn't need seven youngsters - Pitman on loan and a decent central midfielder would have seen us OK. There is no point now going back to THAT team but have to try and score some goals and move forward.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 2, 2020 10:50:46 GMT
Like the idea but I'd rather have Reilly upfront than Rodman.
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Post by pirate on Mar 2, 2020 10:51:55 GMT
Reilly isn't good enough.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 2, 2020 10:57:51 GMT
pirate, Playing rodman because he is the only player we have who can win the ball in the air and Abrahams looks too lightweight. As regards anyone not being able to play in a two, its just nonsence as if you press up on your opponents you wont end up playing in any particular formation. Its all about mobility and ability. I would rather see BG trying something different and losing than using the same "tools" (and I use that politely) every week and losing. Bennett was included in the squad because seemingly his attitude has changed in training and therefore he deserves a chance the same as anybody else. If we are paying him £4000 a week then he may as well earn it. He couldn't do any worse than the tripe that those players dished up on Saturday.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 2, 2020 10:57:57 GMT
Barrett looks overweight and unfit - we’d get torn to shreds playing 442 with him and Upson in the middle.
I’d just go back to 352 until the end of the season. It’s a system this squad knows well, can play in effectively (or could, under Coughlan...), and suits the defenders we have better IMO.
___________Blackman _____Rollin___Craig__Kilgour Rodman__Clarke___Upson__THD ___________Sercombe ________Abraham__Daly
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 11:09:01 GMT
Hardly anyone is playing 4-4-2 these days because controlling the midfield is where a game is normally won and lost. Going with two in centre midfield (especially with one that is not suited to a box to box role) would be a disaster IMO.
I’m baffled with how we are playing. A few weeks ago we were making loads of chances and missing. Now we are back to creating nothing.
If the formation is going to be changed I think the squad is far more suited to a 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 whichever way you look at it. We have good wingbacks, a new ball playing centre half and the system would allow us to have three in centre midfield and therefore not getting outnumbered by the opposition. It will also allow 2 strikers or 1 up top with 1 just behind.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 2, 2020 11:09:54 GMT
My brain hurts with all these different formations in the modern game...👎
This is why BG has been sh** for us.Over thinking formations,styles and tactics after getting these magical "coaching badges" for a simple freaking game where its 11 men against 11 men. The same happened with DC. All wanting to be a modern day coach! WTF...
Play 4-4-2 and go out to win the Dam game,doesnt matter who you are playing against.Playing 1 up front in a game anywhere,partially at home against a side like Sherwsbury is criminal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 11:11:42 GMT
Barrett looks overweight and unfit - we’d get torn to shreds playing 442 with him and Upson in the middle. I’d just go back to 352 until the end of the season. It’s a system this squad knows well, can play in effectively (or could, under Coughlan...), and suits the defenders we have better IMO. ___________Blackman _____Rollin___Craig__Kilgour Rodman__Clarke___Upson__THD ___________Sercombe ________Abraham__Daly Abraham looked awful in his cameo on Saturday. I think he would struggle to get a start if he was loaned to a Western League side. I agree with the formation change and long overdue reinstatement if THD to the side. I think Hare will be starting very soon too.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 2, 2020 11:17:24 GMT
Reilly isn't good enough. I thought we were playing the non-performers though? But saying that, I had completely forgot about Abraham, so I'd put him there instead.
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 2, 2020 11:20:08 GMT
Blackman Hare Rollin Kilgour THD
Ginnelly Sercs Hargreaves JML
Daly JCH
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Post by lpgas on Mar 2, 2020 11:25:29 GMT
Go back to wing backs. It works with these players. Then get a new manager in
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Post by toddy1953 on Mar 2, 2020 11:34:20 GMT
I wouldn’t risk Hare for another month in the first team.
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Post by pirate on Mar 2, 2020 11:35:50 GMT
pirate, Playing rodman because he is the only player we have who can win the ball in the air and Abrahams looks too lightweight. As regards anyone not being able to play in a two, its just nonsence as if you press up on your opponents you wont end up playing in any particular formation. Its all about mobility and ability. I would rather see BG trying something different and losing than using the same "tools" (and I use that politely) every week and losing. Bennett was included in the squad because seemingly his attitude has changed in training and therefore he deserves a chance the same as anybody else. If we are paying him £4000 a week then he may as well earn it. He couldn't do any worse than the tripe that those players dished up on Saturday. Barrett doesn't seem to have much "mobility" at the moment due to his larger frame and there is nothing at all to suggest Bennett's attitude has changed. He's had his chances and been as ineffective as always.
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Post by pirate on Mar 2, 2020 11:38:13 GMT
Reilly isn't good enough. I thought we were playing the non-performers though? But saying that, I had completely forgot about Abraham, so I'd put him there instead. Abraham has looked out of his depth in his brief appearances so far and his record at U23 level (where he is a sub more often than not) doesn't suggest he is the answer.
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Post by hartcliffegas on Mar 2, 2020 11:43:17 GMT
Daly & JCH up front
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 2, 2020 11:47:13 GMT
Barrett looks overweight and unfit - we’d get torn to shreds playing 442 with him and Upson in the middle. I’d just go back to 352 until the end of the season. It’s a system this squad knows well, can play in effectively (or could, under Coughlan...), and suits the defenders we have better IMO. ___________Blackman _____Rollin___Craig__Kilgour Rodman__Clarke___Upson__THD ___________Sercombe ________Abraham__Daly Abraham looked awful in his cameo on Saturday. I think he would struggle to get a start if he was loaned to a Western League side. I agree with the formation change and long overdue reinstatement if THD to the side. I think Hare will be starting very soon too. You may be right about Timmy, but in fairness he’s a young lad who was feeding off scraps and coming into a game where the whole team had played woefully for 60+ minutes. Very difficult for the lad to make an impact in an appearance like that.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 2, 2020 11:48:42 GMT
I thought we were playing the non-performers though? But saying that, I had completely forgot about Abraham, so I'd put him there instead. Abraham has looked out of his depth in his brief appearances so far and his record at U23 level (where he is a sub more often than not) doesn't suggest he is the answer. I've missed Shrewsbury & Sunderland so can't comment too much, but I think the bloke deserves a chance to start a game. After all, we don't really have anyone left if JCH will be out on Saturday. On top of that, has anyone looked good enough under Garner?
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