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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 15, 2020 21:41:19 GMT
Apart from ocassionally saying hello to JC and KM I hardly know them Try again Well enough to know the contents of an email to Jim Chappell within 24 hours after I sent it which only the recipient and 1 other person knew about but did not see the contents of. More lies. Stop being a Knobhead
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 15, 2020 21:42:47 GMT
Not everyone connected with this are not to to come out smelling of roses. But, when all this Coronavirus business is over, could the football club ask to buy the 8% share holding of the supporters club? Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the supporters club in its current quise? They won't sell! They'd have to force it some how.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 5:45:51 GMT
Wrong again 81 Typical diversionary tactic to go off subject which,may I remind you ,is financial mismanagement in the EFL You can’t punctuate a sentence, so I don’t stand much hope of you understanding about company accounts or financial mismanagement. This mismanagement that was so bad the EFL literally told you stop being stupid and dismissed it and that it wouldn’t be getting involved. I see the point you are making, but the fact that the FA approves the running up of 24 millions worth of debt and sees nothing wrong with it is indicative of how they are the poorest custodians the game could hope for and how the EFL as a whole has got into the mess that it has with debt. If Wael is a responsible owner then well...bugger me.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 16, 2020 7:36:53 GMT
You can’t punctuate a sentence, so I don’t stand much hope of you understanding about company accounts or financial mismanagement. This mismanagement that was so bad the EFL literally told you stop being stupid and dismissed it and that it wouldn’t be getting involved. I see the point you are making, but the fact that the FA approves the running up of 24 millions worth of debt and sees nothing wrong with it is indicative of how they are the poorest custodians the game could hope for and how the EFL as a whole has got into the mess that it has with debt. If Wael is a responsible owner then well...bugger me. Thanks for the offer, but I think I’ll pass on your last 2 words! 😱
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 8:04:40 GMT
You can’t punctuate a sentence, so I don’t stand much hope of you understanding about company accounts or financial mismanagement. This mismanagement that was so bad the EFL literally told you stop being stupid and dismissed it and that it wouldn’t be getting involved. I see the point you are making, but the fact that the FA approves the running up of 24 millions worth of debt and sees nothing wrong with it is indicative of how they are the poorest custodians the game could hope for and how the EFL as a whole has got into the mess that it has with debt. If Wael is a responsible owner then well.. .bugger me.Bolders will PM you I expect.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 16, 2020 8:23:10 GMT
This place is going to end up getting shut down like the previous forum. If some carry on posting like this it's only a matter of time before the legal letters begin. It will be a shame for the rest of us.
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Post by SleepyGas on Apr 16, 2020 9:27:44 GMT
This place is going to end up getting shut down like the previous forum. If some carry on posting like this it's only a matter of time before the legal letters begin. It will be a shame for the rest of us. The previous forum was "official" and hosted by the club. It was their prerogative to shut it down if they felt the tone was a bad reflection on the club or its staff. They didn't even need to give a reason.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 16, 2020 9:58:37 GMT
This place is going to end up getting shut down like the previous forum. If some carry on posting like this it's only a matter of time before the legal letters begin. It will be a shame for the rest of us. The previous forum was "official" and hosted by the club. It was their prerogative to shut it down if they felt the tone was a bad reflection on the club or its staff. They didn't even need to give a reason. Yes I remember. All it takes is one legal letter to the right person and gaschat will be no more sadly.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 16, 2020 10:45:38 GMT
gastower reads that 'newspaper'? Surprised. Not. So because that paper has a different political viewpoint to you it means anything they write about football, sport or any other topic is rubbish? Rather a closed-mind approach for someone with an open-minded, left leaning viewpoint. For the record, I think some of their political articles are confused and muddled. In the same way I enjoy reading articles other than political in The Guardian. Just sayin.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 16, 2020 10:49:00 GMT
Bottom line is our owners are damned if they spend money or damned if they don't. The most recent meeting of chairman proposed changes to decrease wages and I know we supported this. I also saw the list of budgets in L1 and L2 we are not top of it and the variation is not huge across all the clubs. Based on those playing budgets, most clubs could be losing 3-4 Million a year, as most have playing budgets higher than that. At least most of our debt is not owed to 3rd parties - it will take all the clubs to work together and the support of the EFL to sort this out. Our local rivals have an owner throwing untold sums them, while that is allowed to happen why are we surprised that Wael has to live beyond his means to keep us at least in touching distance. Would we prefer us to be back in non-league and all of Bristol heading off to the dark side ? Bottom line is the money we could have spent on a training ground and stadium has largely ended up in the pockets of players and agents, how do we avoid that ? I guess trying to create and sell our own talent is one way, but since Bosman it is arguable whether that makes sense. Rovers stayed afloat for years by selling talent, when the talent can walk for free unless you pay it huge wages how is that going to work ? I would argue the Bosman rule played a big part in football becoming unsustainable. You're right. And Bosman will never her undone.
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Post by axegas on Apr 16, 2020 11:32:47 GMT
The previous forum was "official" and hosted by the club. It was their prerogative to shut it down if they felt the tone was a bad reflection on the club or its staff. They didn't even need to give a reason. Yes I remember. All it takes is one legal letter to the right person and gaschat will be no more sadly. As it says in the disclaimer at the bottom of the home page, individuals are responsible for what they decide to write on here, not the platform. Anything that we think could be classed as libel, will get moderated anyway.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 16, 2020 12:26:47 GMT
Yes I remember. All it takes is one legal letter to the right person and gaschat will be no more sadly. As it says in the disclaimer at the bottom of the home page, individuals are responsible for what they decide to write on here, not the platform. Anything that we think could be classed as libel, will get moderated anyway. About 2 years ago I had a meeting with Tom Gorringe about this site. It was just to touch base with him and nothing nefarious. He was happy with how the site is run and that it allows all fans to have a say and that its agenda free. He still has my details and I'm sure I would get a phone call and an opportunity to correct, modify or delete anything should that be necessary. I have no idea if anyone else would extend that courtesy but given that we have always tried to allow everyone a fair crack, that the Mods do their best to remove the worst stuff that's posted in a timely manner I would hope that they would also give us time to sort the forum before having us shut down. The disclaimer was added a long time ago because its almost impossible to keep up behind every post 24/7 so inevitably something may slip through the net.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 13:12:24 GMT
As it says in the disclaimer at the bottom of the home page, individuals are responsible for what they decide to write on here, not the platform. Anything that we think could be classed as libel, will get moderated anyway. About 2 years ago I had a meeting with Tom Gorringe about this site. It was just to touch base with him and nothing nefarious. He was happy with how the site is run and that it allows all fans to have a say and that its agenda free. He still has my details and I'm sure I would get a phone call and an opportunity to correct, modify or delete anything should that be necessary. I have no idea if anyone else would extend that courtesy but given that we have always tried to allow everyone a fair crack, that the Mods do their best to remove the worst stuff that's posted in a timely manner I would hope that they would also give us time to sort the forum before having us shut down. The disclaimer was added a long time ago because its almost impossible to keep up behind every post 24/7 so inevitably something may slip through the net. Where is the line drawn anyway? As long as there is no serious abuse or character assassination going on isn’t it fair and proper to be allowed to criticise someone’s ownership especially when the debt reaches the level it has? Nice guy he may very well be but as nice as he is I don’t know how anyone can possibly defend the level of debt we have accrued. It’s eye watering stuff.
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Post by philbemmygas on Apr 16, 2020 13:21:06 GMT
Slightly off-track. I have been struggling to renew my season ticket on-line.
I left a message on the answerphone on Tuesday afternoon; this morning at 09:05 while I was out walking the dog I got a call from Clare. I had the forethought to take my wallet with me; within a couple of minutes I had renewed.
There are elements of this Club that can't ne knocked - UTG
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Post by spiess1 on Apr 16, 2020 13:33:13 GMT
gastower reads that 'newspaper'? Surprised. Not. So because that paper has a different political viewpoint to you it means anything they write about football, sport or any other topic is rubbish? Rather a closed-mind approach for someone with an open-minded, left leaning viewpoint. For the record, I think some of their political articles are confused and muddled. In the same way I enjoy reading articles other than political in The Guardian. Just sayin. oldgas reads that 'newspaper'? Surprised. Not.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Apr 16, 2020 13:37:22 GMT
Slowly suffocating themselves.
Instead of slowly doing it, why can't they just hurry up and get it done!?
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Post by althepirate on Apr 16, 2020 13:41:51 GMT
Slightly off-track. I have been struggling to renew my season ticket on-line. I left a message on the answerphone on Tuesday afternoon; this morning at 09:05 while I was out walking the dog I got a call from Clare. I had the forethought to take my wallet with me; within a couple of minutes I had renewed. There are elements of this Club that can't ne knocked - UTG Even Clare has got her knockers 😲
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 16, 2020 16:52:04 GMT
About 2 years ago I had a meeting with Tom Gorringe about this site. It was just to touch base with him and nothing nefarious. He was happy with how the site is run and that it allows all fans to have a say and that its agenda free. He still has my details and I'm sure I would get a phone call and an opportunity to correct, modify or delete anything should that be necessary. I have no idea if anyone else would extend that courtesy but given that we have always tried to allow everyone a fair crack, that the Mods do their best to remove the worst stuff that's posted in a timely manner I would hope that they would also give us time to sort the forum before having us shut down. The disclaimer was added a long time ago because its almost impossible to keep up behind every post 24/7 so inevitably something may slip through the net. Where is the line drawn anyway? As long as there is no serious abuse or character assassination going on isn’t it fair and proper to be allowed to criticise someone’s ownership especially when the debt reaches the level it has? Nice guy he may very well be but as nice as he is I don’t know how anyone can possibly defend the level of debt we have accrued. It’s eye watering stuff. It's not about not being able to have a say, but some posters are rightly worried that some on both sides have been treading close to libellous
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Post by fanatical on Apr 16, 2020 17:37:49 GMT
Bottom line is our owners are damned if they spend money or damned if they don't. The most recent meeting of chairman proposed changes to decrease wages and I know we supported this. I also saw the list of budgets in L1 and L2 we are not top of it and the variation is not huge across all the clubs. Based on those playing budgets, most clubs could be losing 3-4 Million a year, as most have playing budgets higher than that. At least most of our debt is not owed to 3rd parties - it will take all the clubs to work together and the support of the EFL to sort this out. Our local rivals have an owner throwing untold sums them, while that is allowed to happen why are we surprised that Wael has to live beyond his means to keep us at least in touching distance. Would we prefer us to be back in non-league and all of Bristol heading off to the dark side ? Bottom line is the money we could have spent on a training ground and stadium has largely ended up in the pockets of players and agents, how do we avoid that ? I guess trying to create and sell our own talent is one way, but since Bosman it is arguable whether that makes sense. Rovers stayed afloat for years by selling talent, when the talent can walk for free unless you pay it huge wages how is that going to work ? I would argue the Bosman rule played a big part in football becoming unsustainable. Unfortunately, this thread goes to prove what an excellent job the Dunford family and their cohorts did in bringing 'Rovers back from a really dark place. The approach now by the current 'Board' is in direct conflict to the practical efforts by the then protectors of our Club. That Board under Denis in particular and later Geoffrey showed how to run a business on a minimum income/expenditure, which whoever owns/runs the business in the near (and probably long) future I suggest will have to revert to. They were lucky? or wise? of course in taking full advantage of the transfer market in promising young players because of the wonderful youth programme under Roy Dolling. As an ex financier I fully approved the Dunford Board approach then, although the gambler in me might have taken a more adventurous approach which generally ends either in ecstasy or ruin (rarely is there a medium result). If the current owner/s have unlimited funds then, he/they could act in whatever way legally they want to, but my experience is that funds rarely exceed ambition and so caution is the watchword. The main problem as I see it is the massive (in Rovers terms) debt which has to be somehow serviced whilst the income has, in recent years, never exceeded the outgoings. How they square that circle will take a really wise head. When the previous Board sold to the A|l-Qadi family, there was an alternative offer, which was never really considered, and despite the doubters, there is an opportunity available now, but it takes two to tango as they say, and it is Dwayne Sports leading on the dance floor who have a decision to make - for all our sake let us hope they make the right one.
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Post by swissgas on Apr 16, 2020 18:01:15 GMT
The Companies House website is showing that the BRFC 1883 Ltd issued share capital was increased on April 6th.
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