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Post by warehamgas on Jul 2, 2020 22:03:41 GMT
stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=37240#p831795Just found this link on the Mansfield forum. Indicating that the EFL are thinking about 29th August or the 12th September for a restart. I hadn’t seen this and I can’t see football starting in the lower leagues without spectators, the sponsorship wouldn’t sustain clubs without the paying fans. Sounds a bit more hopeful. UTG!
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Post by aghast on Jul 2, 2020 22:09:53 GMT
At the moment we might have much more positivity surrounding us as a football club but meader may be right about fans not being allowed to attend football until after Christmas. Our positivity is not necessarily reflected in the wider football world. The government seems to be full of inconsistencies about sport in general. Football allowed, cricket not, hard to see the science in that decision. So meander might be right, I hope not but there are circumstances where I could see it happening. If we have any local second spikes that could lead to more lockdowns. Unfortunately we don’t know what’s going to happen and until there’s some certainty I can’t see the EFL starting up the league yet and definitely not with any paying fans yet. It’s not a popular view but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. UTG! If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here.
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Post by graceyboy on Jul 2, 2020 22:28:10 GMT
At the moment we might have much more positivity surrounding us as a football club but meader may be right about fans not being allowed to attend football until after Christmas. Our positivity is not necessarily reflected in the wider football world. The government seems to be full of inconsistencies about sport in general. Football allowed, cricket not, hard to see the science in that decision. So meander might be right, I hope not but there are circumstances where I could see it happening. If we have any local second spikes that could lead to more lockdowns. Unfortunately we don’t know what’s going to happen and until there’s some certainty I can’t see the EFL starting up the league yet and definitely not with any paying fans yet. It’s not a popular view but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. UTG! If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. At the risk of totally alienating all gas heads... Am I the only one that thinks that this vile disease has set a precident now for the whole world to go into lockdown every time any slight attack of the sniffles strikes? I seriously think the world needs a massive dose of 'man the f*ck up' it wasn't too long ago that whenever something like 7/7 struck, killing lots of people, londoners were out on the streets next day, dealing with 'business as usual' and having this attitude of 'not letting the terrorists win.' where is that fighting spirit now of not letting this disease win and stop us from living life as normal? It's not rocket science, social distance, wash hands, glove up and wear face masks and you'll be safe!!! Jeez, so many doom and gloom merchants. I'd rather 'live' a shorter life than exist as a caged animal for the next 30 years.
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Post by graceyboy on Jul 2, 2020 22:31:21 GMT
This is seriously the most depressing thread I've ever had the misfortune of reading.. Im sure I've got some rope in the garage..
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Post by peterparker on Jul 3, 2020 5:58:30 GMT
If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. At the risk of totally alienating all gas heads... Am I the only one that thinks that this vile disease has set a precident now for the whole world to go into lockdown every time any slight attack of the sniffles strikes? I seriously think the world needs a massive dose of 'man the f*ck up' it wasn't too long ago that whenever something like 7/7 struck, killing lots of people, londoners were out on the streets next day, dealing with 'business as usual' and having this attitude of 'not letting the terrorists win.' where is that fighting spirit now of not letting this disease win and stop us from living life as normal? It's not rocket science, social distance, wash hands, glove up and wear face masks and you'll be safe!!! Jeez, so many doom and gloom merchants. I'd rather 'live' a shorter life than exist as a caged animal for the next 30 years. No we can't do it everytime, but in this case it was down to how easily spread Covid is and the fact their are no vaccinations about. Plenty of info about how many people could have died or been saved depending on the lock down measures/timing We need to adjust ourselves and use common sense but as has clearly been seen a lot of people don't have it.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 3, 2020 6:15:25 GMT
If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. At the risk of totally alienating all gas heads... Am I the only one that thinks that this vile disease has set a precident now for the whole world to go into lockdown every time any slight attack of the sniffles strikes? I seriously think the world needs a massive dose of 'man the f*ck up' it wasn't too long ago that whenever something like 7/7 struck, killing lots of people, londoners were out on the streets next day, dealing with 'business as usual' and having this attitude of 'not letting the terrorists win.' where is that fighting spirit now of not letting this disease win and stop us from living life as normal? It's not rocket science, social distance, wash hands, glove up and wear face masks and you'll be safe!!! Jeez, so many doom and gloom merchants. I'd rather 'live' a shorter life than exist as a caged animal for the next 30 years. How can a virus be reasoned with? People are advised to do what will keep them and the majority of people safe and manage the load on the NHS. It has and never will be about not letting the virus "win" as it's not an evil organisation deliberately out to get people. Frankly comparing the virus to a terrorist act is completely idiotic.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 3, 2020 6:27:16 GMT
Down to just under 2 new cases per 100K in Bristol etc, we've probably more chance of being in a car accident/hit crossing the road going to the Mem than catching CV19 at the ground.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Jul 3, 2020 7:11:40 GMT
At the moment we might have much more positivity surrounding us as a football club but meader may be right about fans not being allowed to attend football until after Christmas. Our positivity is not necessarily reflected in the wider football world. The government seems to be full of inconsistencies about sport in general. Football allowed, cricket not, hard to see the science in that decision. So meander might be right, I hope not but there are circumstances where I could see it happening. If we have any local second spikes that could lead to more lockdowns. Unfortunately we don’t know what’s going to happen and until there’s some certainty I can’t see the EFL starting up the league yet and definitely not with any paying fans yet. It’s not a popular view but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. UTG! I don't have a problem with that part of the posting but the remainder is negativity for the sake of it. Right now we are in a good place relative to a lot of our peers and, whilst no need to gloat, don't make a case that isn't there ie we are financially in a relatively good place and wigan was financial skullduggery not covid.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jul 3, 2020 7:27:43 GMT
If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. At the risk of totally alienating all gas heads... Am I the only one that thinks that this vile disease has set a precident now for the whole world to go into lockdown every time any slight attack of the sniffles strikes? I seriously think the world needs a massive dose of 'man the f*ck up' it wasn't too long ago that whenever something like 7/7 struck, killing lots of people, londoners were out on the streets next day, dealing with 'business as usual' and having this attitude of 'not letting the terrorists win.' where is that fighting spirit now of not letting this disease win and stop us from living life as normal? It's not rocket science, social distance, wash hands, glove up and wear face masks and you'll be safe!!! Jeez, so many doom and gloom merchants. I'd rather 'live' a shorter life than exist as a caged animal for the next 30 years. Feel free to head to the pubs this weekend and ‘man it up’ to the max but I’ll be at home with my wife and kids staying safe the best we can until we feel it’s okay to go back to normal. The leisure industry isn’t opening because the virus has gone, there’s just an empty bed for you in intensive care.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 3, 2020 7:40:03 GMT
We are at the crossroads with this corona virus. Some things are being allowed to reopen but with social distancing in place. Yet, there is still no plans in place for the return of spectator sport. Therefore, I am predicting that we shall see no spectator sport for the rest of 2020. so, what would this mean? it would mean that we will properly see many football clubs folding. Unfortunately, that would include our beloved Bristol Rovers. The longer clubs have no income, the time becomes shorter whereby those in charge will have to make the difficult decision of winding up their football club. We have already seen Wigan Athletic going into administration. Unfortunately, they will not be the last. With no income coming to pay the players and grounds people, clubs have a very difficult decision to make. Therefore it’s time for us all to be realistic. It may be quite possible that we may have seen out last ever Bristol Rovers game. We just cannot survive the longer spectators are kept out of stadiums. I just hope that I’m wrong. But the future doesn’t look good the longer we have corona virus dictating how our world behaves. Pubs carry a higher risk or transmission than outdoor spectating, and they are opening Saturday. If the current rate of drop in cases continues, we'll be down to a handful of cases in September. There will be no reason to ban spectators at that stage.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 3, 2020 7:41:07 GMT
At the moment we might have much more positivity surrounding us as a football club but meader may be right about fans not being allowed to attend football until after Christmas. Our positivity is not necessarily reflected in the wider football world. The government seems to be full of inconsistencies about sport in general. Football allowed, cricket not, hard to see the science in that decision. So meander might be right, I hope not but there are circumstances where I could see it happening. If we have any local second spikes that could lead to more lockdowns. Unfortunately we don’t know what’s going to happen and until there’s some certainty I can’t see the EFL starting up the league yet and definitely not with any paying fans yet. It’s not a popular view but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. UTG! If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. Maybe now, but in September / October when there might be a half dozen cases in the whole country?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 3, 2020 7:49:44 GMT
At the risk of totally alienating all gas heads... Am I the only one that thinks that this vile disease has set a precident now for the whole world to go into lockdown every time any slight attack of the sniffles strikes? I seriously think the world needs a massive dose of 'man the f*ck up' it wasn't too long ago that whenever something like 7/7 struck, killing lots of people, londoners were out on the streets next day, dealing with 'business as usual' and having this attitude of 'not letting the terrorists win.' where is that fighting spirit now of not letting this disease win and stop us from living life as normal? It's not rocket science, social distance, wash hands, glove up and wear face masks and you'll be safe!!! Jeez, so many doom and gloom merchants. I'd rather 'live' a shorter life than exist as a caged animal for the next 30 years. Feel free to head to the pubs this weekend and ‘man it up’ to the max but I’ll be at home with my wife and kids staying safe the best we can until we feel it’s okay to go back to normal. The leisure industry isn’t opening because the virus has gone, there’s just an empty bed for you in intensive care. More false info, it's down to 2 new cases per day 100K in Bristol/S Glos so 10 per 500K, as I said in my earlier post you are more likely to get injured in an accident than catching CV19 around Bristol this weekend. You just need to be sensible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 7:50:12 GMT
At the moment we might have much more positivity surrounding us as a football club but meader may be right about fans not being allowed to attend football until after Christmas. Our positivity is not necessarily reflected in the wider football world. The government seems to be full of inconsistencies about sport in general. Football allowed, cricket not, hard to see the science in that decision. So meander might be right, I hope not but there are circumstances where I could see it happening. If we have any local second spikes that could lead to more lockdowns. Unfortunately we don’t know what’s going to happen and until there’s some certainty I can’t see the EFL starting up the league yet and definitely not with any paying fans yet. It’s not a popular view but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. UTG! If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. The percentage of those with Covid-19 requiring hospital treatment is very low. Hospitals are becoming far better at managing the disease and so a much smaller percentage of those hospitalised are now dying. Everyone knows the groups at most risk and they should take a much more cautious approach than everyone else. At some point we have to get to some form of normality and just accept this disease may be around us in some form for quite a long time. For the sake of our economy and children’s futures we have resume normal life as best we can and that includes sport, leisure and hospitality.
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Post by francegas on Jul 3, 2020 8:10:54 GMT
I don't see a problem in allowing fans back to the stadiums on a reduced and phased basis. 1.Every club knows the capacity of their stadium. 2. Every club knows how many season tickets they have sold. 3.So why not ban away fans. This stops 1000s of people travelling across the country each week thus reducing the risk of the transfer of the virus. 4. It wouldn't take an Einstein to then calculate the revised capacity of the stadium with Social distancing. 5. The club then sells tickets to non season ticket holders to the revised capacity. (Less the number of season ticket holders). 6 Terracing is then marked where people stand and seats are cordoned off to allow social distancing. Yes some season ticket holders may have to change seats but that's a small price to pay to watch live football. Granted this would only really work in the lower leagues (depending on season tickets sold and ground capacity).
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 3, 2020 8:19:23 GMT
If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. Maybe now, but in September / October when there might be a half dozen cases in the whole country? Not so much September or October, the concern is increasing cases over the winter months which also coincides with other illnesses.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 3, 2020 8:20:03 GMT
Feel free to head to the pubs this weekend and ‘man it up’ to the max but I’ll be at home with my wife and kids staying safe the best we can until we feel it’s okay to go back to normal. The leisure industry isn’t opening because the virus has gone, there’s just an empty bed for you in intensive care. More false info, it's down to 2 new cases per day 100K in Bristol/S Glos so 10 per 500K, as I said in my earlier post you are more likely to get injured in an accident than catching CV19 around Bristol this weekend. You just need [other people] to be sensible. Fixed, free of charge.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 3, 2020 8:52:10 GMT
If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. At the risk of totally alienating all gas heads... Am I the only one that thinks that this vile disease has set a precident now for the whole world to go into lockdown every time any slight attack of the sniffles strikes? I seriously think the world needs a massive dose of 'man the f*ck up' it wasn't too long ago that whenever something like 7/7 struck, killing lots of people, londoners were out on the streets next day, dealing with 'business as usual' and having this attitude of 'not letting the terrorists win.' where is that fighting spirit now of not letting this disease win and stop us from living life as normal? It's not rocket science, social distance, wash hands, glove up and wear face masks and you'll be safe!!! Jeez, so many doom and gloom merchants. I'd rather 'live' a shorter life than exist as a caged animal for the next 30 years. Really? “ Man the f*ck up.” That’s a great policy, I’ll tell the 43,000 who died. UTG
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Post by adrian301 on Jul 3, 2020 9:31:24 GMT
I can't see an end to this. There is a split between covid anxious fans, and back to normal fans. Attendances will not be enough if the rules say only those who will bow to taking the vaccine or wear a face covering are allowed in. Pubs are going to face the same drop in revenue, and lots will probably close.
Watching football on TV with empty stadiums just aint the same, and has a sterile empty atmosphere. So i won't be paying for that.
Choices have to be made, by clubs, fans and government.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 3, 2020 9:34:50 GMT
Attendances will not be enough if the rules say only those who will bow to taking the vaccine or wear a face covering are allowed in. Are you suggesting wearing a mask is an act of subservience, or is this a different use of 'bow'?
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Post by aghast on Jul 3, 2020 9:39:36 GMT
If we opened stadiums we would see Leicester being repeated all over the country within a matter of weeks, and lockdown being imposed again, with more businesses going bankrupt and more premature elderly deaths. I'm sorry for all football clubs struggling, but there are more important issues at stake here. Maybe now, but in September / October when there might be a half dozen cases in the whole country? Yes I can see that might make sense. The disease level will hopefully be so low by then that the chance of catching it in an outdoor stadium will be minimal But it's too soon at the moment imo. You just have to look at Texas and Florida to see what might happen if we opened grounds now. I wouldn't be comfortable about meeting old or vulnerable people if I'd just spent the last three hours mixing with 8,000 other people at a football match.
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