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Post by yattongas on Sept 22, 2020 13:42:14 GMT
Speculate to accumulate. See stadium etc . We can’t get the players because we can’t get the crowds ( sh**e stadiums) , so we don’t get the results that get you the crowds that pay for better players that get you results . And on we go......
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Post by Westy on Sept 22, 2020 13:44:42 GMT
I have nothing against the policy of bringing in younger players to eventually sell but our problem over the fifty odd years that I have supported the gas is exactly the same thing every time. When we do sell a player we don't replace that player with a FAIR proportion of the money we get. You can't expect to be successful if you sell your best player which is usually your goalscorer and replace him with players with no goalscoring record at the level you are playing. Peterborough may not go up again this year but at least when they sell a striker for mega bucks they then replace him with two players far cheaper than the fee they get but proven at the level .Andy Tillson as our record signing still in this day and age is nothing short of ridiculous.Everybody harps on about finding the n ext Barry hayles and things like this but the truth is for every Barry Hayles there are five Blissetts, James, Taits, etc etc. It doesn't matter what type of football we play we aren't going to win anything if we don't have a player who has a clue where the net is! We should have been signing say a Piggott or a Healey but as usual we are going about things the ultra cheap way and that will cost us our level of football. What do you actually expect when the club is burning cash to the tune of £100s of 1000s every season? You cannot divorce yourself from financial reality in order to realise some schoolboy fantasy. It's not just this year though is it? We always replace our star strikers with two 19 year old defenders on loan.
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Post by station on Sept 22, 2020 13:51:36 GMT
I find it hard to understand why clubs with a fraction of our support i.e. the likes of Peterborough etc etc do what they do and we do what we do - Fail ?? Nothing has changed since I attended my first game, way back in 1966 ..... oh to be little Bournemouth & Boscombe those were the days and Villa were our arch enemies 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 13:56:52 GMT
What do you actually expect when the club is burning cash to the tune of £100s of 1000s every season? You cannot divorce yourself from financial reality in order to realise some schoolboy fantasy. It's not just this year though is it? We always replace our star strikers with two 19 year old defenders on loan. And it's just about every year we have negative cash flow
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 13:57:49 GMT
Speculate to accumulate. See stadium etc . We can’t get the players because we can’t get the crowds ( sh**e stadiums) , so we don’t get the results that get you the crowds that pay for better players that get you results . And on we go...... Easy clichés when it's not your money.
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 22, 2020 14:18:21 GMT
I do agree with having to be careful with money but if you sell JCH and then bring in a good striker at say a quarter of his price then you stand a chance of selling on again. I would add if you get to the Championship your players automatically increase in value when selling.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 22, 2020 14:26:35 GMT
I find it very interesting the replies here but in view of these sensible replies cannot understand why BG is getting so much grief when he has had to sell the only player who really scored goals for us and replace him with strikers with no goalscoring record whatsoever at this level. He can bring in all the players he like but if you cannot put the ball in the net enough times you will be relegated. Looking at our squad and allocating goals I cannot honestly see where 30 goals are going to come from let alone the n umber for a reasonable season! Because BG had that player (JCH) plus a shed load of other players he got to bring in last season and the results were sh**. Not that hard to understand really Steve.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 22, 2020 14:28:44 GMT
Speculate to accumulate. See stadium etc . We can’t get the players because we can’t get the crowds ( sh**e stadiums) , so we don’t get the results that get you the crowds that pay for better players that get you results . And on we go...... As you always say on the stadium thread "It ain't happening lads".
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 22, 2020 14:44:26 GMT
The main issue the club has and will continue to have is it will bleed dry without the ability to make its own money. Board, after board, after board have sat on their hands with regards to developments. I'm willing to let Wael have his 2-3 years as sole owner before I lay into him too much but the fact is we've lumped up 3 tents since buying the mem in 1997. That's pathetic. We'll never amount to anything more without the ability to make money away from matchdays.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 22, 2020 14:51:22 GMT
and when the club is administration due to money mismanagement you will moan about that as well Think of all the heartache and pain this would save us all! I sometimes think this would be a good thing as it would terminate my life sentence......
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 22, 2020 14:59:55 GMT
I've no issue with selling Harrison nor JCH but why can't we invest a decent proportion of the sale on a decent replacement, Coventry signed Matt Godden for £500K last season and now this season he's scoring goals for them in the Championship, chances are Hanlon/Auyunga will be scoring goals for us in L2 next season, as those two most be the most inexperienced strikers we've ever signed.
I don't really understand Wael's logic in spending £25m+ clearing our debts/the training ground but seemingly zero on player recruitment, does he really tune in every match and watch the rubbish BG's side has produced since his appointment like the rest of us?
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Post by EastVanGas on Sept 22, 2020 15:04:28 GMT
Only if they are your players. Keep getting loans in dont make you a buck if promotion isn't of importance.we are now thinking like small clubs in existing in this division We've got less loans this year than previous seasons.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 22, 2020 16:40:28 GMT
whilst we play at the mem we will never be truly competitive...Still waiting for a MS update on the stadium situation though aren't we
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Sept 22, 2020 18:34:45 GMT
We are where we should be, an established League One club pushing for a top 6 finish. We are a big club in this division when you consider how well supported we are. We could become a Championship club, but in order to stay there we need a new ground.
Hopefully our players will click soon and bring what they are doing on the training ground into a match and we can start to build some momentum.
One successful season and is all it will take to catch the Ted’s and they have spunked millions and have gone nowhere.
Keep the faith. UTG!
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 22, 2020 19:23:35 GMT
We are where we should be, an established League One club pushing for a top 6 finish. We are a big club in this division when you consider how well supported we are. We could become a Championship club, but in order to stay there we need a new ground. Hopefully our players will click soon and bring what they are doing on the training ground into a match and we can start to build some momentum. One successful season and is all it will take to catch the Ted’s and they have spunked millions and have gone nowhere. Keep the faith. UTG! Fantasy land. We are not a big club in this division. Look at the averaage attendance. A dying fanbase. City are one good season away from the premier league. Us? 20 games away from oblivion. When crowds come back we would have lost another 2k at least
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Post by gregsy on Sept 22, 2020 19:35:39 GMT
Let's be honest, successful isn't something thats ever really been attributed to lower league footie, however its always found a way of achieving success in it own particular, rather non descript, yet romantic form....
I've become worried in recent years as to where the increasing costs of running lower league clubs becomes problematic, whilst the competitions we play in seem to become evermore irrelevant in the mainstream and where will it all lead....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 20:37:36 GMT
Only if they are your players. Keep getting loans in dont make you a buck if promotion isn't of importance.we are now thinking like small clubs in existing in this division All clubs use the loan system. Right from the very top to the bottom of professional football.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 20:39:25 GMT
I find it hard to understand why clubs with a fraction of our support i.e. the likes of Peterborough etc etc do what they do and we do what we do - Fail ?? Nothing has changed since I attended my first game, way back in 1966 ..... oh to be little Bournemouth & Boscombe those were the days and Villa were our arch enemies 🙄 Villa were getting 30,000 crowds then so they were just stopping by and visiting little rovers.
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Post by socrates on Sept 22, 2020 20:43:49 GMT
Newport playing well v a decent Man UTD side, very organised and hard to break down and decent fast direct passing with the ball. Fair to say they look a hell of a lot a better side than us.
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Post by yaz on Sept 22, 2020 20:47:00 GMT
The main issue the club has and will continue to have is it will bleed dry without the ability to make its own money. Board, after board, after board have sat on their hands with regards to developments. I'm willing to let Wael have his 2-3 years as sole owner before I lay into him too much but the fact is we've lumped up 3 tents since buying the mem in 1997. That's pathetic. We'll never amount to anything more without the ability to make money away from matchdays. I thought we were doing well commercially?
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