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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 22, 2020 20:54:03 GMT
Newport playing well v a decent Man UTD side, very organised and hard to break down and decent fast direct passing with the ball. Fair to say they look a hell of a lot a better side than us. Luton*? 😉 |
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Post by socrates on Sept 22, 2020 20:56:03 GMT
Newport playing well v a decent Man UTD side, very organised and hard to break down and decent fast direct passing with the ball. Fair to say they look a hell of a lot a better side than us. Luton*? 😉 Yeah Luton |
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Post by socrates on Sept 22, 2020 20:56:21 GMT
It’s been a long hard day
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Post by blueblood1883 on Sept 22, 2020 21:57:09 GMT
As Faggoty says how do you measure success?. to me Rovers being well over 100 years old , as Gordon Bennett said ' paying our way', surviving against what at times have been tremendous odds, giving us some unforgettable memories, ( yes, and some not so memorable, but they only serve to enhance the good ones) we have unearthed some brilliant footballers and helped them on there way to greater success, while maintaining our place in the football pyramid, so i reckon that is success, of course if you measure success as being part of the greed and financial gluttony of the top table then we are some way behind and i for one are content to be so! You here yet again today those at the top on about a 1.5 billion rescue package! obscene in these troubled times IMHO, if a few players and officials like Gordon Taylor gave up a weeks wages problem solved, up the Rovers (but not to high eh! ) Really good post this.. Talking about obscene, it's worth noting that Macclesfield received a winding up order owing half a million pounds. So in effect a couple of weeks wages to the highest earners in the Premier league. After fifty years of watching I want us to be successful of course, but I'll take the owner clearing a huge debt and leaving me a team to support at this moment in time.. |
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 22, 2020 22:50:36 GMT
The main issue the club has and will continue to have is it will bleed dry without the ability to make its own money. Board, after board, after board have sat on their hands with regards to developments. I'm willing to let Wael have his 2-3 years as sole owner before I lay into him too much but the fact is we've lumped up 3 tents since buying the mem in 1997. That's pathetic. We'll never amount to anything more without the ability to make money away from matchdays. I thought we were doing well commercially? We’re doing better, a lot better but we’re still not anywhere the likes of Doncaster or Rotherham. |
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Post by markczgas on Sept 22, 2020 22:51:02 GMT
Only if they are your players. Keep getting loans in dont make you a buck if promotion isn't of importance.we are now thinking like small clubs in existing in this division We only have 2 loan players at the club - that has to be the lowest number for many a year ! |
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Post by markczgas on Sept 22, 2020 22:52:08 GMT
I find it hard to understand why clubs with a fraction of our support i.e. the likes of Peterborough etc etc do what they do and we do what we do - Fail ?? Nothing has changed since I attended my first game, way back in 1966 ..... oh to be little Bournemouth & Boscombe those were the days and Villa were our arch enemies 🙄 The new training ground is an important step in the right direction |
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Post by peterparker on Sept 23, 2020 7:48:31 GMT
Why are we worried about being succesful in the future right now.
Us and many other clubs, just need to carrying on existing first. Bigger shake-ups are to come before worrying about why we never replace X properly
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 23, 2020 8:20:44 GMT
Would normally agree but in these unprecedented times, spending 500k on a striker is stupid I'm hoping we keep going, as many clubs will go to the wall unfortunately.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 23, 2020 8:27:20 GMT
Yeah when I read/heard the possibility of football clubs potentially not having fans return until March 2021 i stopped all my thoughts about how good or bad we might be and who we should bring in and what we should do etc and thought we are damn lucky to be in this dire situation with Wael al-Qadi as our owner.
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 23, 2020 9:50:46 GMT
The biggest joke is that it is the Premier League clubs who are pleading for help from the Government. They think sod all of the other 70 teams in the League. The Premier League should be sharing the money out in there unprecedented times so ALL clubs see the Pandemic through. The Premier League can live through with no crowds at all based on the TV money.
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Post by landrover on Sept 23, 2020 9:58:45 GMT
Why are we worried about being succesful in the future right now. Us and many other clubs, just need to carrying on existing first. Bigger shake-ups are to come before worrying about why we never replace X properly Quite! It’s always jam tomorrow but not just yet. We plebs must learn the meaning of patience. The fact I’ve been waiting since the early 70’s is not their concern. Ive realised that there is nothing new out there, it’s all been tried and tested. The long term is b*llocks, I’m not interested. We had a team capable of achieving and succeeding until Coughlan went AWOL. If Wycombe could do it then I’m bloody well sure we could have. Posters quote Exeter as a good example of youth sustainability but where exactly are they? The fourth division! Crewe is another one. They yo-yo between the lower leagues constantly yet never make the breakthrough. Wael, Starnes and Garner go on about the academy and talk about it as if it’s the holy grail. We were so close last season yet have never seemed farther away than now. |
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Post by simonj on Sept 23, 2020 10:02:44 GMT
I often look at Luton (and Swindon for that matter). Luton went out of the league as well, and whilst their roller coaster is bigger than ours their top is always higher than ours. Its hard to understand how they manage it when their resources or fan base is no greater than ours. |
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Post by bluegas on Sept 23, 2020 10:38:06 GMT
The biggest joke is that it is the Premier League clubs who are pleading for help from the Government. They think sod all of the other 70 teams in the League. The Premier League should be sharing the money out in there unprecedented times so ALL clubs see the Pandemic through. The Premier League can live through with no crowds at all based on the TV money. And still paying £20/30/55 million and more for players! |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 23, 2020 11:00:54 GMT
The biggest joke is that it is the Premier League clubs who are pleading for help from the Government. They think sod all of the other 70 teams in the League. The Premier League should be sharing the money out in there unprecedented times so ALL clubs see the Pandemic through. The Premier League can live through with no crowds at all based on the TV money. And still paying £20/30/55 million and more for players! I wonder if its all relative... I have no idea, but the fees and wages are huuuuuuuuuuuge in the prem compared to lower tiers but the income is far superior... the crowds are bigger but for some clubs with limited capacity or a smaller fan base that income probably doesnt cover the wage demands.. all just thoughts... does anyone have any facts that can help me better understand as I'm sure this has been a topic discussed many times by many fans. Better still I should probably get back to work as I haven't made much input at all. Maybe its the same... maybe its not... Great work pal. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 23, 2020 11:07:41 GMT
The biggest joke is that it is the Premier League clubs who are pleading for help from the Government. They think sod all of the other 70 teams in the League. The Premier League should be sharing the money out in there unprecedented times so ALL clubs see the Pandemic through. The Premier League can live through with no crowds at all based on the TV money. Um, but that's exactly why the Premier League was created in early 90s. Alex Flynn wrote a good book about it at the time.. They only care for themselves, to exclude 70 teams with finances. It's all weighed in their favour...... And where do most of their players get pilfered from? Yep. That costs money too, from lower clubs to develop. Take Ollie Watkins as an example. |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 23, 2020 12:04:38 GMT
Replying to the thread title... If what i understand to be correct that we want to play possession based, high tempo, exciting and entertaining football and you traded me some more poor results while the club and its philosophy transitions to anything like the example Leeds show in this video, i'll take it.
Notice that they are behind for most of the match, but the shape and the style and their identity remains their sole purpose and each and every one of them have bought into it knowing they will be ok.
Look at the way the midfield drop to get the ball off the defense and if the pass isn't on the player returns to midfield and another midfielder drops... looks so fluid (yes i know its sped up a bit for dramatic effect). Also admire the bite and speed in the pressing when the ball is lost, turn over after turn over. Also watch the deepest defender get the ball and then drive forward with it into the opposition half.
If it takes time, and I'm sure it does to get the mindsets and belief in the system, just imagine the entertainment it could produce. I strongly believe this is the project, the longer term project for Bristol Rovers football club
Be interested in your thoughts (also interesting to note that Leeds (on paper) play 4-3-3 formation although its always so fluid with rotations and player role switches at high speeds)
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 24, 2020 12:38:03 GMT
Replying to the thread title... If what i understand to be correct that we want to play possession based, high tempo, exciting and entertaining football and you traded me some more poor results while the club and its philosophy transitions to anything like the example Leeds show in this video, i'll take it. Notice that they are behind for most of the match, but the shape and the style and their identity remains their sole purpose and each and every one of them have bought into it knowing they will be ok. Look at the way the midfield drop to get the ball off the defense and if the pass isn't on the player returns to midfield and another midfielder drops... looks so fluid (yes i know its sped up a bit for dramatic effect). Also admire the bite and speed in the pressing when the ball is lost, turn over after turn over. Also watch the deepest defender get the ball and then drive forward with it into the opposition half. If it takes time, and I'm sure it does to get the mindsets and belief in the system, just imagine the entertainment it could produce. I strongly believe this is the project, the longer term project for Bristol Rovers football club Be interested in your thoughts (also interesting to note that Leeds (on paper) play 4-3-3 formation although its always so fluid with rotations and player role switches at high speeds) Years ago Charlton used to play 4-3-3 |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 24, 2020 12:44:39 GMT
Replying to the thread title... If what i understand to be correct that we want to play possession based, high tempo, exciting and entertaining football and you traded me some more poor results while the club and its philosophy transitions to anything like the example Leeds show in this video, i'll take it. Notice that they are behind for most of the match, but the shape and the style and their identity remains their sole purpose and each and every one of them have bought into it knowing they will be ok. Look at the way the midfield drop to get the ball off the defense and if the pass isn't on the player returns to midfield and another midfielder drops... looks so fluid (yes i know its sped up a bit for dramatic effect). Also admire the bite and speed in the pressing when the ball is lost, turn over after turn over. Also watch the deepest defender get the ball and then drive forward with it into the opposition half. If it takes time, and I'm sure it does to get the mindsets and belief in the system, just imagine the entertainment it could produce. I strongly believe this is the project, the longer term project for Bristol Rovers football club Be interested in your thoughts (also interesting to note that Leeds (on paper) play 4-3-3 formation although its always so fluid with rotations and player role switches at high speeds) Years ago Charlton used to play 4-3-3 Successfully? |
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 24, 2020 12:45:40 GMT
Replying to the thread title... If what i understand to be correct that we want to play possession based, high tempo, exciting and entertaining football and you traded me some more poor results while the club and its philosophy transitions to anything like the example Leeds show in this video, i'll take it. Notice that they are behind for most of the match, but the shape and the style and their identity remains their sole purpose and each and every one of them have bought into it knowing they will be ok. Look at the way the midfield drop to get the ball off the defense and if the pass isn't on the player returns to midfield and another midfielder drops... looks so fluid (yes i know its sped up a bit for dramatic effect). Also admire the bite and speed in the pressing when the ball is lost, turn over after turn over. Also watch the deepest defender get the ball and then drive forward with it into the opposition half. If it takes time, and I'm sure it does to get the mindsets and belief in the system, just imagine the entertainment it could produce. I strongly believe this is the project, the longer term project for Bristol Rovers football club Be interested in your thoughts (also interesting to note that Leeds (on paper) play 4-3-3 formation although its always so fluid with rotations and player role switches at high speeds) Jeez, look how many players they get ahead of the ball. Most moves end with 5 or 6 in the penalty area! |
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