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Post by TAGas on Nov 4, 2020 10:44:16 GMT
The guy is out of his depth.
I feel that once the kick off whistle blows he doesn't know what to do or how to change the game to improve us or stop the opposition from playing their game.
The post match interviews don't help when he states that we performed better than them. How!? They could have probably beaten us by 4 or more.
If he thinks is possession then passing it around the back 3 doesn't count..
I still want to believe in BG and hope it turns around but from all the games I watched. Passing is too slow, we give the ball away too much, we dont have enough shots on target and the defense makes mistakes that leads to a goal.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 4, 2020 10:49:56 GMT
Let's give him another 10 games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 10:57:06 GMT
3-3-4 is a perfectly reasonable start to a season. especially when we have played 5 of the top six and only 2 of the bottom 7 I prefer to put it this way. We are still to play 8 teams above us and only 5 below us. That does not auger well putting it that way.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Nov 4, 2020 11:04:27 GMT
For me as it is I think how he performs is irrelevant. As long as we don't get relegated I'll be happy to drift through this season and get it done without any dramas or worries. Have a proper go next season when the fans are back. Why should we just write this season off again, didn't we do that last season once GC quit? After a small blip we've now reverted to never making any chances nor looking like scoring, all we get now is the 3 CB's passing the ball along the back line, it's the most boring football we've watched since John Ward took us down, I sense BG will be doing similar if we can't beat Swindon. I agree with that but football seems like a thing of fiction while no one can go and see it.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 4, 2020 11:07:27 GMT
I said we needed 4-5 wins from the first 10 games to say its improvement enough to keep faith with him that he has the minerals to makes us promotion challengers. The results have been nothing more than bang average with the only unexpected win coming from behind against Lincoln. We have been decimated by every bigger club with players that IMO, are no better or worse than ours on paper, but have been out thought tactically by the opposition manager. We seem to have a rigid substitution method, preferring to stick to what we do, as opposed to change personelle, shape and formation to change the game (Ipswich, Doncaster, Hull and P'boro all being examples). We dont create nearly enough chances from open play in 2 games of football to win one game (last 2 games have only produced 5 shots on target) Our strikers are playing as individuals rather than a partnership, Hanlon is doing his own thing (mainly because the service to him is shocking) whilst Daly is running around in the hope of nicking something. This is mainly because they are being set up 25-30 yards apart from each other. There is no chemistry with the front 2 and the attacking midfield line. We seem to be able to pass it lovely across the back and into the middle but get to the final 1/3 and run out of ideas so go backwards to the centre circle and beyond. We dont press it quick enough to pass it through the opposition to create anything, and we create little by way of crosses from the left as Tutonda, prefers to come inside rather than overlap to the byline. The only cross from the left last night was a Daly cutback. Whether thats down to poor movement or fitness to accelerate into those areas I dont know. Our possession stats are so high, because once our opposition are 2-0 up, they are happy to sit back, soak up the pressure, as they know that we are clueless in the final 3rd with no cutting edge, and if they park the bus its job done. (Hull, Ipswich, Donny, P'boro all employed those tactics. This isn't being harsh, I've watched all 10 games this year, and everyone of them has been the same. In fact, its so frustrating to watch that after the first goal last night, I knew we would lose. Because the evidence of the previous 300 minutes of football told me we didn't have minerals to compete. Its hard to know whether to stick or twist. I guess by Xmas we will really know the answer. This is bang on, IMO.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 4, 2020 11:10:41 GMT
Agree with you Alan. what's the matter with people these days - f*ck them off to North Korea then they'll have something to whinge about ! See, this is the problem. If you could just tell us all what our opinion is supposed to be, rather than leave us unsupervised to make our own minds up, then it would save us all a lot of hassle . . .
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 4, 2020 11:17:23 GMT
End of season positions since we were promoted to league 1:
10,13,15,14
We are currently 15th
I am ok with this right now as the club has completely overhauled the squad, some key staff, added analysts and nutritionists and changed its philosophy including developing/playing a lot of younger players this season (avg. age last night 24.7) in the hope that they can turn a profit to help sustain BRFC long term and gradually improve us as a club. Understanding this to be the long term plan and with 'the Quarters' opening and continually improving its facilities I can see progression on and off the pitch. For me the disappointments are silly individual errors and not turning 1 point into 3 against burton and rochdale but that is valuable lessons learned for the team and management.
I see the positives last night and the important lessons. I would love to see us start peppering the goal a bit more in the final third as apposed to try ing to find that perfect key pass. I think if Ayunga was fit he has a shoot on sight policy that I think will pay off for us and I am looking forward to his return.
I think over the season we can push for the top 10 but if we only manage lower mid table then I would like to think that we have added 1 season of league one experience to a number of players that at the start of the season hadn't played a game here or in 'mens football' and still managed mid table (that's a positive too). Excited by the rest of the season and the next one for sure.
UTG
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Post by justin blue on Nov 4, 2020 11:27:15 GMT
Here we go again one loss and the knives are out. Peterborough were too good for us night they will probably be too good for most sides in this league. Last night just shows where we are atm. We are improving but there’s a long way to go. BG seems to be sticking with his game for every game regardless, We know we are a work in progress and we weren’t good enough last night, but hopefully we can learn from it. UTG
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 4, 2020 11:33:52 GMT
After the Doncaster game I had had enough and thought Garner should go. However since then I think we have seen improvement and it does give a bit of hope that things may work out. However I still have big doubts about him. He really doesn’t have the presence and manner of a manager. He’s doesn’t seem to be judging the tactics in game too well either. As was pointed out in other posts, we have bought in quality players that should be producing. We’re still early days with this team so would expect to see improvement to come but we’re clearly nowhere near the top teams in this league.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 4, 2020 11:38:58 GMT
Do I have faith in BG, no; although I have no aspiration for this season, other than to staying in division 1, expect us to get knocked out of the FA cup in the early rounds, and hopefully finish between 12th & 5th bottom in the league, surely BG can achieve that target. Wael seems to like BG so I guess he is staying for the long haul, only time will tell.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 4, 2020 11:41:58 GMT
My main concern so far is with performances, not results.
IMO we’ve been well beaten & deserved nothing from all the games we’ve lost so far, but been fairly unconvincing in most of the matches we have taken points from (bar Lincoln).
- Sunderland 1-1 = scored early pen & defended for 90+ mins (fair enough). - Northampton 2-0 = nothing in the game until we got a pen & they had a man sent off. - Burton 1-1 = two poor sides, scored due to Burton clanger at the back. - Shrewsbury 1-0 = Shrews missed 2 sitters + had 1 cleared off the line. - Rochdale 1-1 = scored out of nothing, created nothing else, Rochdale missed best chance of the game.
Delighted we got those wins & a great point at Sunderland, of course, but the performances in those games haven’t filled me with much confidence.
I’d say that things can only get better from an attacking sense!
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 4, 2020 12:42:12 GMT
Things are gradually improving think the midfield needs tweaking as the strikers are too isolated, the crossing and dead ball situations were dire last night you cannot blame Ben for that.
He is still learning his trade and when jonah returns it will give us another option, as we are light up top.
The general mood of society is sombre and we need to keep things in perspective, it has been a massive overhaul of players.
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Post by Westy on Nov 4, 2020 12:59:01 GMT
For the love of God Another one of these??? He's still got 9 games out of the 10 we gave him, remember 😉🙃
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 4, 2020 13:02:55 GMT
I said we needed 4-5 wins from the first 10 games to say its improvement enough to keep faith with him that he has the minerals to makes us promotion challengers. The results have been nothing more than bang average with the only unexpected win coming from behind against Lincoln. We have been decimated by every bigger club with players that IMO, are no better or worse than ours on paper, but have been out thought tactically by the opposition manager. We seem to have a rigid substitution method, preferring to stick to what we do, as opposed to change personelle, shape and formation to change the game (Ipswich, Doncaster, Hull and P'boro all being examples). We dont create nearly enough chances from open play in 2 games of football to win one game (last 2 games have only produced 5 shots on target) Our strikers are playing as individuals rather than a partnership, Hanlon is doing his own thing (mainly because the service to him is shocking) whilst Daly is running around in the hope of nicking something. This is mainly because they are being set up 25-30 yards apart from each other. There is no chemistry with the front 2 and the attacking midfield line. We seem to be able to pass it lovely across the back and into the middle but get to the final 1/3 and run out of ideas so go backwards to the centre circle and beyond. We dont press it quick enough to pass it through the opposition to create anything, and we create little by way of crosses from the left as Tutonda, prefers to come inside rather than overlap to the byline. The only cross from the left last night was a Daly cutback. Whether thats down to poor movement or fitness to accelerate into those areas I dont know. Our possession stats are so high, because once our opposition are 2-0 up, they are happy to sit back, soak up the pressure, as they know that we are clueless in the final 3rd with no cutting edge, and if they park the bus its job done. (Hull, Ipswich, Donny, P'boro all employed those tactics. This isn't being harsh, I've watched all 10 games this year, and everyone of them has been the same. In fact, its so frustrating to watch that after the first goal last night, I knew we would lose. Because the evidence of the previous 300 minutes of football told me we didn't have minerals to compete. Its hard to know whether to stick or twist. I guess by Xmas we will really know the answer. Thanks 1981, yes that is almost identical to my thinking. I’m certainly not a “sack BG” poster but you’ve said exactly the points in my matchday thread. Football is a results business and my opinion doesn’t matter. If he gets wins he will stay, if he doesn’t he will go. I suppose if he gets enough wins to keep us in midtable the opinions will vary, all’s well if we win, knives out if we lose. The only point I’d add is I think the players are ok and individually better than last season, JCH excepted, but against the top clubs the gap is big and we struggle to compete over 90 minutes. He needs to sort out all those areas esp the midfield and lack of chances being created. Poor Hanlan will be completely knackered by Christmas. His problem is showing that performances are improving and proving that he is the man to create something from a fairly talented group of players. Do it he’ll be ok, fail and he’ll be gone. He’s a fortunate coach to have what appears to be a supportive owner. Any other owner and he’d have gone already. UTG!
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Post by markczgas on Nov 4, 2020 15:18:27 GMT
This place is unbelievable! We criticise the Teds for whinging but my god we ain’t too bad are we! A ridiculous thread. A couple of league wins on the trot and the bus will be back out again, GasChat eh? 😂 Any chance you could highlight the couple of fixtures we're going to win on the trot? The Swindon game is looking a big fixture to me as lose that, assuming we don't beat Fleetwood and we're back in the relegation battle, even though BG must have been given a top 10 playing budget. if this and if that ...................................., assuming this and assuming that .......................... Just hold your bloody horse a bit and see how it pans out. Mid table we are not wallowing deep in the relegation positions.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 4, 2020 15:20:07 GMT
Let's give him another 10 games. most definitely - or better still, the whole season. Finally we've some hungry (mainly young) players playing for the shirt who can also PLAY FOOTBALL !
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Post by Marshy on Nov 4, 2020 15:22:46 GMT
Any chance you could highlight the couple of fixtures we're going to win on the trot? The Swindon game is looking a big fixture to me as lose that, assuming we don't beat Fleetwood and we're back in the relegation battle, even though BG must have been given a top 10 playing budget. if this and if that ...................................., assuming this and assuming that .......................... Just hold your bloody horse a bit and see how it pans out. Mid table we are not wallowing deep in the relegation positions. Standard, it’s Topper init.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 4, 2020 15:24:01 GMT
My main concern so far is with performances, not results. IMO we’ve been well beaten & deserved nothing from all the games we’ve lost so far, but been fairly unconvincing in most of the matches we have taken points from (bar Lincoln). - Sunderland 1-1 = scored early pen & defended for 90+ mins (fair enough). - Northampton 2-0 = nothing in the game until we got a pen & they had a man sent off. - Burton 1-1 = two poor sides, scored due to Burton clanger at the back. - Shrewsbury 1-0 = Shrews missed 2 sitters + had 1 cleared off the line. - Rochdale 1-1 = scored out of nothing, created nothing else, Rochdale missed best chance of the game. Delighted we got those wins & a great point at Sunderland, of course, but the performances in those games haven’t filled me with much confidence. I’d say that things can only get better from an attacking sense! Your opinion mate ! Northampton, Burton and Rochdale - we were the better team. The fact that we didn't win them all has been well-documented - we should create more and finish better when on top. It'll come as the season progresses.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 4, 2020 15:35:01 GMT
This thread has a feel of Biden v Trump. But the thing is who's BG ? Biden or Trump
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 4, 2020 16:01:51 GMT
My main concern so far is with performances, not results. IMO we’ve been well beaten & deserved nothing from all the games we’ve lost so far, but been fairly unconvincing in most of the matches we have taken points from (bar Lincoln). - Sunderland 1-1 = scored early pen & defended for 90+ mins (fair enough). - Northampton 2-0 = nothing in the game until we got a pen & they had a man sent off. - Burton 1-1 = two poor sides, scored due to Burton clanger at the back. - Shrewsbury 1-0 = Shrews missed 2 sitters + had 1 cleared off the line. - Rochdale 1-1 = scored out of nothing, created nothing else, Rochdale missed best chance of the game. Delighted we got those wins & a great point at Sunderland, of course, but the performances in those games haven’t filled me with much confidence. I’d say that things can only get better from an attacking sense! Your opinion mate ! Northampton, Burton and Rochdale - we were the better team. The fact that we didn't win them all has been well-documented - we should create more and finish better when on top. It'll come as the season progresses. IMO = in my opinion. 🙂
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