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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 12, 2021 11:26:47 GMT
Very well prepared for that question! Obviously new it was coming.
Be interesting to do this analysis across 8 games or so. When we have Hanlan, Daly, Nico, Macca, Grant etc in the team in key positions I think he is being slightly disingenuous here.
'There’s players with a lot of technical ability, but when you compare it to some teams in League One what they do lack in certain parts of the pitch is experience. Is that fair?'
TW “No. We took to the field at Accrington Stanley with 950 plus starts in League One. They had 450.”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 11:26:54 GMT
Didn’t like the criticism of the experience did he? In my eyes it’s very fair criticism. “So it’s all the manager’s fault Tommy? Two of them?” “Yes”. “Thanks for clearing that up”. Fair play to the reporter, proper backed him into a corner with those questions.
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Post by axegas on Feb 12, 2021 11:28:17 GMT
“Ultimately the guy who picks, manages and directs the team is responsible. The players are responsible when they cross the white line for their actions, but the buck stops at the manager’s door.”
Really didn’t like this line in particular, it feels like he’s trying to drop Tisdale in it as much as he can whilst distancing himself at the same time. Doesn’t sit right with me at all.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Feb 12, 2021 11:30:10 GMT
Well he firmly puts blame at tisdale door ! No arguments ! His tone was very forceful on that bloody hell ! Going to be interesting next few weeks that’s for sure
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 12, 2021 11:31:09 GMT
Something has just occurred to me. TW just said he the manager search is ongoing but he is only focussed on the Swindon game.
WTF is the DofF not fully focussed on the manager search?! Maher should be caretaker. He did it before and got a credible 0-0 draw against Pompey I think it was.
If TW is 100% focussed on the game who is doing the manager search? Wael and Penfold?!!
Shambles!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 11:31:32 GMT
Yes I agree that the idea was to look up but again, looking at his history and CV it wouldn’t smack of a bad candidate? I guess bearing in mind we’d be unlikely to pay out huge compensation to buy a manager from another club and the manager would actually have to want to come to us; who would have been your looking upwards choice? I’m struggling to think of anyone realistic ...... I agree with your previous post for the reasons you gave that on the face of it you can see the logic, there is a flip side to that argument though in that what isn’t well known about Tisdale’s reputation is that of late he doesn’t have a reputation for exciting football or developing youth. Exeter and MK dons fans predicted Tisdale’s behaviour at Rovers very accurately because Tisdale is a myth. He makes nonsensical substitutions, formations and line ups and is a busted flush these days. The fact we hired him smacks of a lack of due diligence. Rumour on the other forum is that he was interviewed when we hired Garner and he impressed the board. If true, it again shows the lack of imagination, Tisdale was not the stand out candidate compared to Garner yet they circled back round for him without researching why he might have failed at MK Dons or what he actually did in games rather than what he said he did during an interview. Id like to see a proper process followed this turn round but we don’t have the time so it’s probably going to be a rushed appointment, most likely one that lacks experience and the cycle will start again. I agree that this time round we can’t afford to get it wrong and so we need to do a thorough process to get that right person. With that in mind I’d be inclined to have a temporary position till the end of the season and between now and then we go through the process of getting the right manager for them to start in June/July ahead of the summer window and pre season training. Maybe Hargreaves and Mansell duo? Risky I know but I think Mansell will unite the players and fans and Hargreaves is hugely knowledgeable and experienced and has seen these situations before so would add that nouse we need?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 12, 2021 11:32:17 GMT
“Ultimately the guy who picks, manages and directs the team is responsible. The players are responsible when they cross the white line for their actions, but the buck stops at the manager’s door.” Really didn’t like this line in particular, it feels like he’s trying to drop Tisdale in it as much as he can whilst distancing himself at the same time. Doesn’t sit right with me at all. Getting extremely defensive. If another fails then the constant will be Widdrington. It’s clear as muck. He’s under pressure as much as the new manager is. One, perhaps two could be bad luck, three and you have to look beyond the manager and start asking questions up top.
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Post by TAGas on Feb 12, 2021 11:32:19 GMT
Apparently our backroom staff is one of the best in League One! Who'd have thought.....
I think Gas heads watching that TW presser won't have learned much, just said what we all knew anyway.
The other gist I got was I feel he only plans to stay in charge of 1 game again.
"Bucks Door"
"It's as simple as that"
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Feb 12, 2021 11:32:43 GMT
Very different tone from last time he was in charge. His arse is twitching like a rabbit’s nose uncomfortable start to the interview but strong finish. Good point about the Accrington Stanley game. gonner be a bit firey in the dressing room and get into the players which you sense BG & PT were not. Good luck TW against Swindon. big big game!
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Post by peterparker on Feb 12, 2021 11:34:22 GMT
Something has just occurred to me. TW just said he the manager search is ongoing but he is only focussed on the Swindon game. WTF is the DofF not fully focussed on the manager search?! Maher should be caretaker. He did it before and got a credible 0-0 draw against Pompey I think it was. If TW is 100% focussed on the game who is doing the manager search? Wael and Penfold?!! Shambles! you don't know what the manager search is, and who is to sat Tommy won't have any involvement. Right now he has to manage the players on Saturday, the players he is blamed for signing apart from the half decent ones which are apparently signed by somebody else TW is not free of blame on anything, but I think we all need to take a breath somewhere
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Feb 12, 2021 11:36:32 GMT
From those statements then, Tisdales only mistake was taking the managers job. Sounds to me like he wanted an experienced striker and feels the board didn't back him or do enough to get one. Starnes and Widdrington are still patting themselves on the back for assembling this amazing team and it's all the managers fault..... In reality this squad isn't fast enough, strong enough experienced enough, unbalanced, not clinical enough, I could go on, we are miles off being competitive enough. Its an absolute travisty we find ourselves in this position, we had the chance to be a competitive league one team. When we get relegated, these players will get beasted in league 2 and I fear another relagation battle. The board needs to accept they were wrong and we need another strategy going forward.
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Post by kruger on Feb 12, 2021 11:37:50 GMT
Well alot of it was Tisdales fault, yeah TW too but look at some or should I say alot of the substitutes he made. We need to stop trying to blame everyone now and start backing the club instead.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 12, 2021 11:38:07 GMT
Something has just occurred to me. TW just said he the manager search is ongoing but he is only focussed on the Swindon game. WTF is the DofF not fully focussed on the manager search?! Maher should be caretaker. He did it before and got a credible 0-0 draw against Pompey I think it was. If TW is 100% focussed on the game who is doing the manager search? Wael and Penfold?!! Shambles! you don't know what the manager search is, and who is to sat Tommy won't have any involvement. Right now he has to manage the players on Saturday, the players he is blamed for signing apart from the half decent ones which are apparently signed by somebody else TW is not free of blame on anything, but I think we all need to take a breath somewhere He just said he is only focusing on Saturdays game
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Post by yattongas on Feb 12, 2021 11:38:41 GMT
I’m in the school of thought that these players are more than good enough to avoid relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 11:38:42 GMT
Apparently our backroom staff is one of the best in League One! Who'd have thought..... I think Gas heads watching that TW presser won't have learned much, just said what we all knew anyway. The other gist I got was I feel he only plans to stay in charge of 1 game again. "Bucks Door" "It's as simple as that" Of course he does- he’s just told the press when the team fails it’s the manager’s fault. No wonder he doesn’t want the job! Whether Holloway is right about the DOF picking the team or not what he is right on is that Widdrington needs to step out of the shadows and put his name to that team by managing them.
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Feb 12, 2021 11:38:46 GMT
Very well prepared for that question! Obviously new it was coming. Be interesting to do this analysis across 8 games or so. When we have Hanlan, Daly, Nico, Macca, Grant etc in the team in key positions I think he is being slightly disingenuous here. 'There’s players with a lot of technical ability, but when you compare it to some teams in League One what they do lack in certain parts of the pitch is experience. Is that fair?' TW “No. We took to the field at Accrington Stanley with 950 plus starts in League One. They had 450.” Loved that answer! Thought it put that abject performance and the season in perspective!
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Post by cj on Feb 12, 2021 11:41:00 GMT
Apparently our backroom staff is one of the best in League One! Who'd have thought..... I think Gas heads watching that TW presser won't have learned much, just said what we all knew anyway. The other gist I got was I feel he only plans to stay in charge of 1 game again."Bucks Door" "It's as simple as that" I got the impression that he meant 1 game at a time. You can only play 1 game at a time so head is only on Swindon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 11:41:16 GMT
So, you’re a prospective manager of the club- would you want to come and work for these guys who will hang you out to dry to cover their own arses at the first opportunity?
Whether he meant to or not Widdrington will have thinned our pile of application CV’s. God, I’d hate to work for a guy like that.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Feb 12, 2021 11:42:28 GMT
Well alot of it was Tisdales fault, yeah TW too but look at some or should I say alot of the substitutes he made. We need to stop trying to blame everyone now and start backing the club instead. I didn't want Tisdale but feel sorry for the bloke they gave him a sows ear and wanted him to make a silk purse, the bloke wasn't even allowed to bring in any players (apart from a couple). Other teams brought in 9 players! I will always back the club and whatever manager is in charge, but these are my thoughts on it. I will be watching again Saturday for my sins, while the Mrs hides in the bedroom knowing what I will be like come 5 o'clock.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 12, 2021 11:43:44 GMT
Looks like we’re all United and behind TW tommorow then!
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