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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 11, 2021 21:08:40 GMT
Currently sitting as 4th favourite as the new manager of Bristol Rovers is Cardiff City coach James Rowberry. I would imagine that most on here like me have never heard of the guy, which got me thinking, how is he so far up the favourites list? You’d expect the usual names. The managers who have recently lost jobs in the lower leagues of English football and anyone with previous connections to the club but Rowberry is a name of interest. Could there be something in this? I don’t know anything about him other that what is on Cardiff’s website but it would feel very Garneresque and a huge gamble on someone unproven. Someone somewhere has put money on him or knows something that we don’t. www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/player/133 |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 11, 2021 21:10:48 GMT
If the BG appointment had gone so great that BG had buggered off the championship leaving us in the play off positions then appointing Rowberry as another BG-alike would look pretty astute.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 11, 2021 21:11:58 GMT
From the article I posted on the next manager thread he sounds extremely Garneresque.
Will be frustrated if we go for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 21:15:19 GMT
If the BG appointment had gone so great that BG had buggered off the championship leaving us in the play off positions then appointing Rowberry as another BG-alike would look pretty astute. However, on the other hand..... |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 11, 2021 21:24:38 GMT
Currently sitting as 4th favourite as the new manager of Bristol Rovers is Cardiff City coach James Rowberry. I would imagine that most on here like me have never heard of the guy, which got me thinking, how is he so far up the favourites list? You’d expect the usual names. The managers who have recently lost jobs in the lower leagues of English football and anyone with previous connections to the club but Rowberry is a name of interest. Could there be something in this? I don’t know anything about him other that what is on Cardiff’s website but it would feel very Garneresque and a huge gamble on someone unproven. Someone somewhere has put money on him or knows something that we don’t. www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/player/133This is what I highlighted in the next manager thread. He is the one name that stands out as unusual on there. The others are the usual suspects or already at the club. I think at a minimum it means he's applied or has an interview. I think we probably need someone with L1 experience but I wouldn't say we shouldn't go for him just because Garner didn't work out. We've gone down the experienced route plenty of times and it hasn't worked. There is no formula in football when appointing a manager. |
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Post by tecallaghan on Feb 11, 2021 21:26:37 GMT
Currently sitting as 4th favourite as the new manager of Bristol Rovers is Cardiff City coach James Rowberry. I would imagine that most on here like me have never heard of the guy, which got me thinking, how is he so far up the favourites list? You’d expect the usual names. The managers who have recently lost jobs in the lower leagues of English football and anyone with previous connections to the club but Rowberry is a name of interest. Could there be something in this? I don’t know anything about him other that what is on Cardiff’s website but it would feel very Garneresque and a huge gamble on someone unproven. Someone somewhere has put money on him or knows something that we don’t. www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/player/133I would assume given his previous experience at Newport County that perhaps Byron Anthony knows of him perhaps? I would be somewhat apprehensive if the board went with yet another BG-style manager, but I guess someone working under the Welsh FA coaching system could be considered a positive. A lot of coaches speak quite highly of the Welsh FA and their coaching pathway. That's the positives I could gauge from it. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 11, 2021 21:29:49 GMT
Vale have just appointed David Flitcroft as Director of football.Will be interesting to see who becomes their manager.Think we should appoint an experienced Mentor type figure.Their most recent manager John Askey did well at Macclesfield but dead loss at Shrewsbury and Vale.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 11, 2021 21:39:42 GMT
No disrespect but sounds in the Ben Garner mould, might be a disservice however the next manager has to be bang on.
Getting nervous about it, need to give someone a deal until the end of the season to see how they go.
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Post by gregsy on Feb 11, 2021 21:47:45 GMT
Thought this was gonna be a about a fashion brand that pirate leisure are having a clearance of....
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 11, 2021 21:51:25 GMT
If the BG appointment had gone so great that BG had buggered off the championship leaving us in the play off positions then appointing Rowberry as another BG-alike would look pretty astute. He sounds like a mirror image of BG even down to having never played pro football. If he got the job instead of BG last December it would have been an interesting appointment, now it just seems yet another gamble, although posters ere saying we should appoint a foreign manager! www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/meet-james-rowberry-cardiff-citys-17788231 |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 11, 2021 21:57:21 GMT
If the BG appointment had gone so great that BG had buggered off the championship leaving us in the play off positions then appointing Rowberry as another BG-alike would look pretty astute. He sounds like a mirror image of BG even down to having never played pro football. If he got the job instead of BG last December it would have been an interesting appointment, now it just seems yet another gamble, although posters ere saying we should appoint a foreign manager! www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/meet-james-rowberry-cardiff-citys-17788231He does sound a lot like Garner. We just aren’t in the position to gamble like that again. If this season was a dead rubber I wouldn’t mind but we are deep in the sh it. |
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Post by Jomo on Feb 11, 2021 22:51:46 GMT
He does sound a lot like Garner. We just aren’t in the position to gamble like that again. If this season was a dead rubber I wouldn’t mind but we are deep in the sh it. Absolutely. A relegation fight is not the right time to throw in a total rookie that doesn't know anything about the club. A summer appointment of someone like Rowberry (or another from the coaching background) might be worth a shot, but not now. I would favour an internal appointment until the end of the season personally. Give it to TW as he knows the players best. Then recruit a new manager in the summer. |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 11, 2021 23:40:32 GMT
Was Phil Bater’s assistant at Mangotsfield and helped develop the likes of Ollie Clarke and Andrew Hughes. Very, very good coach who has experience at different levels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 23:57:21 GMT
This has got the makings of classic Rovers! Learning absolutely sod all from the last 12 months.
I bet they’ll parachute him in and, like with our burgeoning promotion push, tell him he’s got a free play for the rest of this season and he can give league 2 a proper crack next season. Starnes has probably already been blowing up the poor sod’s phone like a lovesick teenage girl.
God help us with this lot trying to choose our 3rd manager of the season is all I can say.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 0:00:02 GMT
Was Phil Bater’s assistant at Mangotsfield and helped develop the likes of Ollie Clarke and Andrew Hughes. Very, very good coach who has experience at different levels. That’s as maybe but Garner was a highly rated coach too. We need a manager, not a coach and giving a coach his first manager’s job with 15 or so games to beat relegation would be profoundly ridiculous, even for Rovers. Unless of course the board feel that relegation is an acceptable price to pay in order to re-boot this development of kids model. That really wouldn’t surprise me. |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 12, 2021 0:03:27 GMT
Was Phil Bater’s assistant at Mangotsfield and helped develop the likes of Ollie Clarke and Andrew Hughes. Very, very good coach who has experience at different levels. That’s as maybe but Garner was a highly rated coach too. We need a manager, not a coach and giving a coach his first manager’s job with 15 or so games to beat relegation would be profoundly ridiculous, even for Rovers. Unless of course the board feel that relegation is an acceptable price to pay in order to re-boot this development of kids model. That really wouldn’t surprise me. I like James, he’s a good bloke and a good coach. I wouldn’t be surprised if the link is something to do with him working with Byron. I wouldn’t go for him personally but he would in my opinion out perform Garner. |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 12, 2021 0:11:39 GMT
We can’t keep comparing any young manager who hasn’t managed before with BG, it would be unfair. The Blackpool manager came from the Liverpool Academy but seems to be doing a good job. Luton the same as with Huddersfield. Several others. It’s all about the quality but there’s no guarantees with any candidate, so a full process needs to be gone through.
Our promotions:
1973/74 Don M, first time manager promoted from player/coach
1989/90 Gerry F after being sacked at Exeter. Still young, after being sacked
2006/07 PT, first time manager promoted from coach.
2014/15 DC, first time manager in EFL, promoted from assistant manager. ( Or rather dropped in it with 8 games to go!)
2015/16 ditto.
Bert Tann 52/53, came from being secretary (?), again a first time manager.
Not saying it will be a first timer or even if it should be but I wouldn’t be unhappy with a young, up and coming manager. But with the situation we are in it might get worse before it gets better. Which I know is something no one wants to hear.
UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 0:13:37 GMT
That’s as maybe but Garner was a highly rated coach too. We need a manager, not a coach and giving a coach his first manager’s job with 15 or so games to beat relegation would be profoundly ridiculous, even for Rovers. Unless of course the board feel that relegation is an acceptable price to pay in order to re-boot this development of kids model. That really wouldn’t surprise me. I like James, he’s a good bloke and a good coach. I wouldn’t be surprised if the link is something to do with him working with Byron. I wouldn’t go for him personally but he would in my opinion out perform Garner. I wouldn’t be completely against the idea but not in a relegation battle. Inexperienced guys should be nowhere near a team going for promotion or battling relegation. We really need a safe pair of hands but I think all bets are off with who it could be considering our board’s track record. |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Feb 12, 2021 0:28:43 GMT
Odds have lengthen. 25/1 now.
As stated to Garner like.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 12, 2021 0:32:29 GMT
Odds have lengthen. 25/1 now. As stated to Garner like. The things I’d say where he is different to Garner is he has worked in the lower leagues and non-league before. Garner had only coached in under age football and higher than us. |
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